Crowdfunded Pearl Jam! Yes!
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I am not sure if any of you have been paying attention over the last tour but the band has been more then happy to respond to fan requests. From the singing of songs to the signing of shoes Pearl Jam has thrived on catering to it's fans. Every request is a "selfish" one but so what? There is nothing wrong with asking and no one holds it against the band when they don't follow through. The forum was created to give the fans a voice and if some want to use it for crowdfunding why the F not? Participate or don't but the level of negativity from some of you is plain sad.0
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No.SPEEDY MCCREADY said:I think a simple question, that would put people's mind at ease, has never been addressed or answered over the last 2 years.
At any point in time was the wishlist organization and or volunteers, responsible for, and or participate in, the line and lists that existed?
I haven't. Eric hasn't, and no one on our board of directors has, as far as I'm aware.0 -
1 SHOW not enough tickets for everyone that wants them that is where the issues will arise ....jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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No one that I've worked with during Wishlist Preparties participated in the GA list shenanigans. And I don't know how anyone could???? Your entire day is spent preparing for the preparty, setting up, receiving donations, and allocating prizes. The whole idea of WL preparties is being a do gooder, fundraising and celebrating and upcoming show with friends. Not "how can I squeeze in front of the rail while organizing a party"???? Now can we put this to bed?0
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10C would sort it out if so....0
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This. I tried to point out that I thought there were two issues going on in this thread, which is meant to be about the crowd funded gig.BCBA said:
you lost me therejerseygenx said:And I applaud Dan for putting up with all of this crap, he's a better person than me.
The irony, in all of this. We all just want to see PJ as much as possible, yet we are all so divided! Too busy worrying about what's theirs is mine!
You do realize that this Forest Hills campaign has been intentionally misleading while soliciting cash donations from people?
Nothing to do with Wishlist or any of that. That's a separate conversation. Im not aware of any foul play there. in fact I went to 1 fundraiser hosted by laura and it was great.
I went to jerseygenx's wishlist party and it was fun. I applaud those who give of their time for such things.
I am not one to be negative about items for negativism's sake...but the whole way this was introduced reeks. Read the OP.The love he receives is the love that is saved0 -
We were at the preparty and in GA in Philly too. We got to the venue at around 6 pm or even later and ended up about 3-4 rows back. If we would have wanted to go for the rail, I am sure it would somehow have been possible at one point. Of course we were no organizers, but a GA floor is flexible when it comes to your standing point. In Stockholm and Berlin I had to step out of the closer to the stage section at one point because it got too rough. I think you cannot compare US and European GA here.badbrains said:
You were at the preparty and organized it and somehow still ended up on the rail? How? I dnt get how you can be at a preparty and still end up on the rail. I understand that those duoche bag guys, I mean "cool" guys let u on the rail but how'd u get behind them if you weren't in line all day? Just curious cuz even in Amsterdam I was let in early and still the closest I got to the rail was 8 deep so I went to the soundboard and hung out with dimi.
As for thread integrity, I am still not convinced of the Forest Hill campaign. Anything that has been posted about it since I saw it mentioned here first has not changed my decision.
I do not have any bad experiences with Wishlist. I think there are lots of rumours out there on both sides. When people get jealous they start talking crap. Then the crap is being taken to others and so on and so on. Happens all the time and everywhere. Rotten apples are all around, but so are good people.
I am happy that nothing that has been announced yet is appealing to me because I am still recovering financially from my little fall tour extravaganza :P
Please, Pearl Jam, consider a Benaroya Hall vinyl reissue! http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/148993/please-pearl-jam-consider-a-vinyl-benaroya-hall-re-issue0 -
Well then I guess many of us were given false information? Because there are many here who believe, it was indeed some of your volunteers, who were running the line and the list.Foxy Mop said:
No.SPEEDY MCCREADY said:I think a simple question, that would put people's mind at ease, has never been addressed or answered over the last 2 years.
At any point in time was the wishlist organization and or volunteers, responsible for, and or participate in, the line and lists that existed?
I haven't. Eric hasn't, and no one on our board of directors has, as far as I'm aware.
Take me piece by piece.....
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....0 -
I don't know how that could have started??? Even Brooklyn had a short GA line on night 1, there was less than 60 people in it by the time the doors open, of course the Merch line was 100 deep, but that's a whole other problem. I just know the 2013 dates I was at, the GA lines weren't that big. And I think they used the number system, but I always got there too late, so I never participated in a number system. I noticed in Memphis in STL the GA lines were 100 deep by noon each day, totally a different scene.
Now, excuse me while I go sit outside Forrest Hills so I can be first in line for my next show!!!!! [-O<0 -
why is it sad?BS44325 said:Participate or don't but the level of negativity from some of you is plain sad.
Because we should just believe in "the spirit" of the fan-base (where there has been a long history of a minority of scheisters among us) and just fork over money to some guy.... especially in light of blatant and intentional misrepresentations that have not been explained or answered? People in facebook (and here) who have asked legitimate questions have been met with an automaton response, a referral to a nondescriptive web page, or just "this isnt for you pessimists then" response. One of the pledge levels is basically $1000 for "goodies" for fucks sake.
To me, this is very shady, and Im hoping that 10c/PJ sees the risk in this, having been burned recently and shuts this down.
At best, this has good intentions, but is an unorganized mess not thought through at all. At worst its a blatant scam and this dude is going to make off with $100K of fans' money. This whole thing where the goal is $1 Million, but everyone gets charged at $100K is also a head-scratcher.
The way this was rolled out here, and some of the organizer's posts since makes me skeptical.
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Wow, really? that doesnt sound bad at alljerseygenx said:Even Brooklyn had a short GA line on night 1, there was less than 60 people in it by the time the doors open.
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Yeah but now compare that to the tour just gone, where there were 60 people by 6am on the day of most gigs hahaMayDay10 said:
Wow, really? that doesnt sound bad at alljerseygenx said:Even Brooklyn had a short GA line on night 1, there was less than 60 people in it by the time the doors open.
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Then I guess you were. How would I know if you won't give me any names of the people running the list or the sources of the information?SPEEDY MCCREADY said:
Well then I guess many of us were given false information? Because there are many here who believe, it was indeed some of your volunteers, who were running the line and the list.Foxy Mop said:
No.SPEEDY MCCREADY said:I think a simple question, that would put people's mind at ease, has never been addressed or answered over the last 2 years.
At any point in time was the wishlist organization and or volunteers, responsible for, and or participate in, the line and lists that existed?
I haven't. Eric hasn't, and no one on our board of directors has, as far as I'm aware.
Obviously I have no control over what people believe. I can only relay the facts I have. People will believe what they want, and if they want to believe in the rumors instead of the facts, that's their loss.Post edited by Foxy Mop on0 -
Ask the "don't you know who I am" person. I'm sure you know that person is or can find out. That person is out there or better yet, in here. That person most def pulled some shady shit.Foxy Mop said:
Then I guess you were. How would I know if you won't give me any names of the people running the list or the sources of the information?SPEEDY MCCREADY said:
Well then I guess many of us were given false information? Because there are many here who believe, it was indeed some of your volunteers, who were running the line and the list.Foxy Mop said:
No.SPEEDY MCCREADY said:I think a simple question, that would put people's mind at ease, has never been addressed or answered over the last 2 years.
At any point in time was the wishlist organization and or volunteers, responsible for, and or participate in, the line and lists that existed?
I haven't. Eric hasn't, and no one on our board of directors has, as far as I'm aware.
Obviously I have no control over what people believe. I can only relay the facts I have. People will believe what they want, and if they want to believe in the rumors instead of the facts, that's their loss.
And Laura, I know you weren't asking me for the names of the people who told me these stories. I was answering someone else who did ask. And as for the names you're asking for, why? Why do u need to know the names of these people or even my name? I go by bad brains here, and that's how I like it. It's not cause I'm hiding behind the computer or whatever. Believe me, I don't scare easy.0 -
$3000 per ticket??? That would make it so that only wealthier fans could go.... to avoid elitist shows I'd prefer bigger venues with cheaper tix for charity concerts.rgambs said:I'm on the Debbie downer bandwagon. If it's going to be done, I would want to see it done for charity and be EXTREMELY expensive. 3,000$ per ticket, tickets sold in pairs. 3,000 tickets sold. Tenclub gets first priority.
Yeah, basically, Wishlist people, if you truly disapprove of Wishlist people taking advantage and scamming the GA lines and stuff like that, then I'm a bit confused, because I have also personally had Wishlist people boast about how they leave GA lines and get their friends to the rail with them without waiting in line too. There are hundreds if not thousands of people who have witnessed these things being done, so calling such claims unsubstantiated seems a little silly at this point. Not sure if you want video proof or what before you actually try and put a stop to it. For those Wishlist folks who don't do this kind of thing, then absolutely nothing against you, and I do not mean to accuse everyone here; I have nothing against Wishlist, but something against those within Wishlist who take advantage of other fans and use Wishlist at least partially as a means to benefit themselves at shows... Sorry, you do have some rotten apples in your ranks, and they are hurting your well-intentioned cause. IMO, enough people have testified to the problems to warrant a reaction on Wishlist's part. It's actually not the responsibility of those NOT involved in Wishlist to stop the problem. If people involved in Wishlist are getting away with this stuff without the honest people with Wishlist knowing it, then it kind of seems like they need to pay closer attention to what their Wishlist friends are up to!badbrains said:
Are you saying there's "no shady" shit going on with people involved with the wishlist foundation? People are just making these stories up? Really? So that "don't you know who I am" quote is made up? I'm curious as to why somebody would make a quote up like that.strummers said:
Really? Wow, I wish someone had told me!weddingparade said:i heard that wishlist people get free backstage passes to many shows so their tickets are free
I'd love to be guaranteed great spots (for free), not have to queue for upwards of 15 hours at a time, while spending time chatting with the boys backstage before the show. As it is, I'm having to sell some of my stuff to pay for the shows we went to this summer, have only ever met Ed (after waiting outside in the cold after shows) and am seriously considering buying a tent for the next tour!
Seriously, I'm on the Wishlist board, I have never known this to happen and it certainly has never happened to me (if only!).
Please don't listen to/spread unsubstantiated rumours/gossip. If you genuinely witness inappropriate behaviour from Wishlist volunteers/staff, please send an email/pm/message and let us know, with as much info as possible. We will look into it and deal with it appropriately, but we need you to let us know, in as timely a way as possible, what you have witnessed and where.
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Check out the two man band I started with fellow board member mfc2006. We launched a fundraising campaign a few days ago to have our newest album pressed to vinyl. We could use some help! Link to our Indiegogo site:
http://igg.me/p/fund-mastering-and-production-of-our-4th-album/x/8343775
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Thank you pjsoul !!!!PJ_Soul said:
$3000 per ticket??? That would make it so that only wealthier fans could go.... to avoid elitist shows I'd prefer bigger venues with cheaper tix for charorgambs said:I'm on the Debbie downer bandwagon. If it's going to be done, I would want to see it done for charity and be EXTREMELY expensive. 3,000$ per ticket, tickets sold in pairs. 3,000 tickets sold. Tenclub gets first priority.
Yeah, basically, Wishlist people, if you truly disapprove of Wishlist people taking advantage and scamming the GA lines and stuff like that, then I'm a bit confused, because I have also personally had Wishlist people boast about how they leave GA lines and get their friends to the rail with them without waiting in line too. There are hunreds if not thousands of people who have witnessed these things being done, so calling such claims unsubstantiated seems a little silly at this point. Not sure if you want video proof or what before you actually try and put a stop to it. For those Wishlist folks who don't do this kind of thing, then absolutely nothing against you, and I do not mean to accuse everyone here; I have nothing against Wishlist, but something against those within Wishlist who take advantage of other fans and use Wishlist at least partially as a means to benefit themselves at shows... Sorry, you do have some rotten apples in your ranks, and they are hurting your well-intentioned cause. IMO, enough people have testified to the problems to warrant a reaction on Wishlist's part. It's actually not the responsibility of those NOT involved in Wishlist to stop the problem. If people involved in Wishlist are getting away with this stuff without the honest people with Wishlist knowing it, then it kind of seems like they need to pay closer attention to what their Wishlist friends are up to!badbrains said:
Are you saying there's "no shady" shit going on with people involved with the wishlist foundation? People are just making these stories up? Really? So that "don't you know who I am" quote is made up? I'm curious as to why somebody would make a quote up like that.strummers said:
Really? Wow, I wish someone had told me!weddingparade said:i heard that wishlist people get free backstage passes to many shows so their tickets are free
I'd love to be guaranteed great spots (for free), not have to queue for upwards of 15 hours at a time, while spending time chatting with the boys backstage before the show. As it is, I'm having to sell some of my stuff to pay for the shows we went to this summer, have only ever met Ed (after waiting outside in the cold after shows) and am seriously considering buying a tent for the next tour!
Seriously, I'm on the Wishlist board, I have never known this to happen and it certainly has never happened to me (if only!).
Please don't listen to/spread unsubstantiated rumours/gossip. If you genuinely witness inappropriate behaviour from Wishlist volunteers/staff, please send an email/pm/message and let us know, with as much info as possible. We will look into it and deal with it appropriately, but we need you to let us know, in as timely a way as possible, what you have witnessed and where.0 -
So can we assume then that maybe not your board members but some people who were affiliated with wishlist in some way? Cuz as pjsoul stated, there was plenty of issues on the 2013 tour where people were abusing the "wishlist" power. Can you admit that there was a problem with the list and people somehow involved with wishlist?Foxy Mop said:
No.SPEEDY MCCREADY said:I think a simple question, that would put people's mind at ease, has never been addressed or answered over the last 2 years.
At any point in time was the wishlist organization and or volunteers, responsible for, and or participate in, the line and lists that existed?
I haven't. Eric hasn't, and no one on our board of directors has, as far as I'm aware.0 -
Maybe 3000 is a little high. 1500$ and 6,000 tickets. 1500$ isn't that much money when you consider a show in a tiny auditorium that will raise close to 10 million dollars! I say make it a big deal or let them do their own thing like they have always done. Go big or go home!Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0
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