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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Score another one for "Good guys with a gun": Man defends himself at home against brutal attacker, 2 dead.
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    CM189191 said:

    Score another one for "Good guys with a gun": Man defends himself at home against brutal attacker, 2 dead.

    And this scenario presents the exact scenario that is indefensible: when a weapon is available... and when human beings become emotional... bad things can happen.

    Bottom line: more guns= more deaths by guns. Period.

    In my mind... this 'argument' isn't even an argument anymore. It's a joke of cosmic proportions.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Curious - why does the title of the link read completely different than the actual story?

    No defending, no brutal attacker, one dead.

    Fucked up for sure, but I don't get how this is anywhere related to someone legitimately defending themselves?
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    rgambs said:

    Godfather. said:

    CM189191 said:

    Godfather. said:

    U.N. Resolution 2117

    This is what UN Resolutions 2117 was designed to prevent. But your boys went and f'd it all up. Now they're shooting at us with our own bullets. And will continue to for years to come. Profits win out over safety & security again.

    ISIS’ Ammunition Is Shown to Have Origins in U.S. and China

    "Never give up on what you really want to do. The person with big dreams is more powerful than one with all the facts."
    - Albert Einstein

    and maybe if these anti gun folks would just stay away from American gun owners and thier guns they might find something more constructive to do with thier lives rather than just whine all the time.


    Godfather.

    How is this post related to the quoted post? I don't get it at all.
    You hate ISIS and yet you have no problem with them using american ammo? You think those opposed to arming terrorists need to whine less and be more constructive?
    help ISIS ? =)) surly you must be joking.

    Godfather.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Godfather. said:

    rgambs said:

    Godfather. said:

    CM189191 said:

    Godfather. said:

    U.N. Resolution 2117

    This is what UN Resolutions 2117 was designed to prevent. But your boys went and f'd it all up. Now they're shooting at us with our own bullets. And will continue to for years to come. Profits win out over safety & security again.

    ISIS’ Ammunition Is Shown to Have Origins in U.S. and China

    "Never give up on what you really want to do. The person with big dreams is more powerful than one with all the facts."
    - Albert Einstein

    and maybe if these anti gun folks would just stay away from American gun owners and thier guns they might find something more constructive to do with thier lives rather than just whine all the time.


    Godfather.

    How is this post related to the quoted post? I don't get it at all.
    You hate ISIS and yet you have no problem with them using american ammo? You think those opposed to arming terrorists need to whine less and be more constructive?
    help ISIS ? =)) surly you must be joking.

    Godfather.
    Another post which doesn't make any sense...whatever you are on please send me some it must be good shit!
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    And don't call me Surly!
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Hahaha airplane was one of my favorites as a kid!
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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    hedonist said:

    Curious - why does the title of the link read completely different than the actual story?

    No defending, no brutal attacker, one dead.

    Fucked up for sure, but I don't get how this is anywhere related to someone legitimately defending themselves?

    How about this one?
    Heroic man defends castle by shooting teen after home is burglarized
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    edited October 2014
    And don't call me Surly!
    CM189191 said:

    hedonist said:

    Curious - why does the title of the link read completely different than the actual story?

    No defending, no brutal attacker, one dead.

    Fucked up for sure, but I don't get how this is anywhere related to someone legitimately defending themselves?

    How about this one?
    Heroic man defends castle by shooting teen after home is burglarized
    The fact that a child is dead is fucked up.

    I just wish the headline (or link) didn't come across so slanted. That sort of thing tends to color my view, make me wonder about potential agenda rather than reporting without bias.

    (there are no details in the article about what transpired prior to the shooting other than "confrontation")

  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    for every example that is used for gun control you could probably apply them to ....sport cars,drugs,booze,nagging wives,cheating husbands and rap music as well, there are a few people in this country that are willing to give up what ever they see fit to prove a point to no-one but them selfs and they do it behind the disguise of thoughtfullness and caring and want so much for anyone to follow them into thier web of control...it must be a lonely and dark place to be the ledgends in thier own minds.

    Godfather.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    Godfather. said:

    for every example that is used for gun control you could probably apply them to ....sport cars,drugs,booze,nagging wives,cheating husbands and rap music as well, there are a few people in this country that are willing to give up what ever they see fit to prove a point to no-one but them selfs and they do it behind the disguise of thoughtfullness and caring and want so much for anyone to follow them into thier web of control...it must be a lonely and dark place to be the ledgends in thier own minds.

    Godfather.

    Disagree...none of those things that you mentioned are designed to kill human beings

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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    Godfather. said:

    for every example that is used for gun control you could probably apply them to ....sport cars,drugs,booze,nagging wives,cheating husbands and rap music as well, there are a few people in this country that are willing to give up what ever they see fit to prove a point to no-one but them selfs and they do it behind the disguise of thoughtfullness and caring and want so much for anyone to follow them into thier web of control...it must be a lonely and dark place to be the ledgends in thier own minds.

    Godfather.

    Don't forget rubber bands and sweat pants too.

    This is how far it's gone: I think some actually believe such gibberish.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    edited October 2014
    Wrong thread
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Gern Blansten said:

    Godfather. said:

    for every example that is used for gun control you could probably apply them to ....sport cars,drugs,booze,nagging wives,cheating husbands and rap music as well, there are a few people in this country that are willing to give up what ever they see fit to prove a point to no-one but them selfs and they do it behind the disguise of thoughtfullness and caring and want so much for anyone to follow them into thier web of control...it must be a lonely and dark place to be the ledgends in thier own minds.

    Godfather.

    Disagree...none of those things that you mentioned are designed to kill human beings

    and yet they still do.

    Godfather.

  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Godfather. said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    Godfather. said:

    for every example that is used for gun control you could probably apply them to ....sport cars,drugs,booze,nagging wives,cheating husbands and rap music as well, there are a few people in this country that are willing to give up what ever they see fit to prove a point to no-one but them selfs and they do it behind the disguise of thoughtfullness and caring and want so much for anyone to follow them into thier web of control...it must be a lonely and dark place to be the ledgends in thier own minds.

    Godfather.

    Disagree...none of those things that you mentioned are designed to kill human beings

    and yet they still do.

    Godfather.

    So does food that we choke on.

    You're missing the point, man. Guns do exactly what they are designed to do- everything else can prove top be fatal in the right circumstances, but by accident.
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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Godfather. said:

    for every example that is used for gun control you could probably apply them to ....sport cars,drugs,booze,nagging wives,cheating husbands and rap music as well, there are a few people in this country that are willing to give up what ever they see fit to prove a point to no-one but them selfs and they do it behind the disguise of thoughtfullness and caring and want so much for anyone to follow them into thier web of control...it must be a lonely and dark place to be the ledgends in thier own minds.

    Godfather.

    sport cars - traffic laws, air bags & seatbelts
    drugs - regulation/deregulation, doctors & NA
    booze - ATF & AA
    nagging wives,cheating husbands - couples therapy & Ashley Madison
    rap music - FCC
    guns - more guns

    The rest of your commentary just appears to be one long run-on sentence of word salad. Been to Wasilla lately?
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Godfather. said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    Godfather. said:

    for every example that is used for gun control you could probably apply them to ....sport cars,drugs,booze,nagging wives,cheating husbands and rap music as well, there are a few people in this country that are willing to give up what ever they see fit to prove a point to no-one but them selfs and they do it behind the disguise of thoughtfullness and caring and want so much for anyone to follow them into thier web of control...it must be a lonely and dark place to be the ledgends in thier own minds.

    Godfather.

    Disagree...none of those things that you mentioned are designed to kill human beings

    and yet they still do.

    Godfather.

    So does food that we choke on.

    You're missing the point, man. Guns do exactly what they are designed to do- everything else can prove top be fatal in the right circumstances, but by accident.
    yuuuuup the list goes on and on but the good news is that we can blame it on guns.....have you ever seen a gun load itself ? then take aim and fire all by itself ? that must be something to see.

    Godfather.

  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    Godfather. said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Godfather. said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    Godfather. said:

    for every example that is used for gun control you could probably apply them to ....sport cars,drugs,booze,nagging wives,cheating husbands and rap music as well, there are a few people in this country that are willing to give up what ever they see fit to prove a point to no-one but them selfs and they do it behind the disguise of thoughtfullness and caring and want so much for anyone to follow them into thier web of control...it must be a lonely and dark place to be the ledgends in thier own minds.

    Godfather.

    Disagree...none of those things that you mentioned are designed to kill human beings

    and yet they still do.

    Godfather.

    So does food that we choke on.

    You're missing the point, man. Guns do exactly what they are designed to do- everything else can prove top be fatal in the right circumstances, but by accident.
    yuuuuup the list goes on and on but the good news is that we can blame it on guns.....have you ever seen a gun load itself ? then take aim and fire all by itself ? that must be something to see.

    Godfather.

    That really makes no sense...clearly it is the owner of the weapon that must adhere to stricter controls, not an inanimate object.

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  • CM189191
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    Godfather. said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Godfather. said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    Godfather. said:

    for every example that is used for gun control you could probably apply them to ....sport cars,drugs,booze,nagging wives,cheating husbands and rap music as well, there are a few people in this country that are willing to give up what ever they see fit to prove a point to no-one but them selfs and they do it behind the disguise of thoughtfullness and caring and want so much for anyone to follow them into thier web of control...it must be a lonely and dark place to be the ledgends in thier own minds.

    Godfather.

    Disagree...none of those things that you mentioned are designed to kill human beings

    and yet they still do.

    Godfather.

    So does food that we choke on.

    You're missing the point, man. Guns do exactly what they are designed to do- everything else can prove top be fatal in the right circumstances, but by accident.
    yuuuuup the list goes on and on but the good news is that we can blame it on guns.....have you ever seen a gun load itself ? then take aim and fire all by itself ? that must be something to see.

    Godfather.

    A lot of deflection. Not a lot of solutions.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Thirty I see what the point is Bro I just don't understand why anybody believes they have the right to control my firearm, if someone uses a gun in a crime in most states it's 5 years minimum right off the top but if I don't use a gun in any crime why would I let anybody have control over my firearm ?
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