America's Gun Violence

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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    edited October 2014

    CM189191 said:

    U.N. Resolution 2117

    This is what UN Resolutions 2117 was designed to prevent. But your boys went and f'd it all up. Now they're shooting at us with our own bullets. And will continue to for years to come. Profits win out over safety & security again.

    ISIS’ Ammunition Is Shown to Have Origins in U.S. and China

    "Never give up on what you really want to do. The person with big dreams is more powerful than one with all the facts."
    - Albert Einstein

    and maybe if these anti gun folks would just stay away from American gun owners and thier guns they might find something more constructive to do with thier lives rather than just whine all the time.


    Godfather.

    Edit.

    Forget it.

    You're right: people who argue for gun control suck.
    Post edited by Thirty Bills Unpaid on
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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    unsung said:

    I'm curious about whether or not those that would prefer we do away with the 2nd Amendment would also prefer to do away with the 1st.

    Oh sweet irony.

    The staunch Republicans that so vociferously defend your precious 2nd Amendment are the same ones who are going out of their way to trample all over 1st Amendment Rights:

    You wanna gun? Come on down to the show and pick one up!

    You wanna vote? Poll tax, please!
  • unsung
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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    unsung said:
    Ug...The Daily Caller? No wonder why your world view is so skewed.

    There's a vast difference between recommending comfortable shoes for a march, and requiring ID at the voting polls. I'm thinking they are probably recommending carrying ID because when a bunch of black people get together and start protesting shit, police get antsy and have a tendency to start arresting/beating/spraying/shooting people. Let's hope we don't see that level of 'enforcement' at the voting polls in a few weeks. But I digress....would you have felt better if they recommended everyone attending the march bring their guns with them instead?
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    CM189191 said:

    unsung said:
    Ug...The Daily Caller? No wonder why your world view is so skewed.

    There's a vast difference between recommending comfortable shoes for a march, and requiring ID at the voting polls. I'm thinking they are probably recommending carrying ID because when a bunch of black people get together and start protesting shit, police get antsy and have a tendency to start arresting/beating/spraying/shooting people. Let's hope we don't see that level of 'enforcement' at the voting polls in a few weeks. But I digress....would you have felt better if they recommended everyone attending the march bring their guns with them instead?
    you just seem to have all the answers and know anything about everything...you're my new hero........

    Godfather.


  • unsung
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    CM189191 said:

    unsung said:
    Ug...The Daily Caller? No wonder why your world view is so skewed.

    There's a vast difference between recommending comfortable shoes for a march, and requiring ID at the voting polls. I'm thinking they are probably recommending carrying ID because when a bunch of black people get together and start protesting shit, police get antsy and have a tendency to start arresting/beating/spraying/shooting people. Let's hope we don't see that level of 'enforcement' at the voting polls in a few weeks. But I digress....would you have felt better if they recommended everyone attending the march bring their guns with them instead?
    Yep

  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    edited October 2014
    unsung said:

    I'm curious about whether or not those that would prefer we do away with the 2nd Amendment would also prefer to do away with the 1st.

    Why does the desire for reasonable gun laws have the same meaning (to you) as "do away with the 2nd Amendment?"

    Surely you must acknowledge that the interpretation of the 2nd Amendment has gone a little far.

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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927

    CM189191 said:

    unsung said:
    Ug...The Daily Caller? No wonder why your world view is so skewed.

    There's a vast difference between recommending comfortable shoes for a march, and requiring ID at the voting polls. I'm thinking they are probably recommending carrying ID because when a bunch of black people get together and start protesting shit, police get antsy and have a tendency to start arresting/beating/spraying/shooting people. Let's hope we don't see that level of 'enforcement' at the voting polls in a few weeks. But I digress....would you have felt better if they recommended everyone attending the march bring their guns with them instead?
    you just seem to have all the answers and know anything about everything...you're my new hero........

    Godfather.
    I'm impressed, straight from denial to acceptance! Maybe I didn't give you enough credit. You may want to go back and revisit anger, bargaining and depression, though. They're all ppretty critical steps in the recovery process.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    CM189191 said:

    CM189191 said:

    unsung said:
    Ug...The Daily Caller? No wonder why your world view is so skewed.

    There's a vast difference between recommending comfortable shoes for a march, and requiring ID at the voting polls. I'm thinking they are probably recommending carrying ID because when a bunch of black people get together and start protesting shit, police get antsy and have a tendency to start arresting/beating/spraying/shooting people. Let's hope we don't see that level of 'enforcement' at the voting polls in a few weeks. But I digress....would you have felt better if they recommended everyone attending the march bring their guns with them instead?
    you just seem to have all the answers and know anything about everything...you're my new hero........

    Godfather.
    I'm impressed, straight from denial to acceptance! Maybe I didn't give you enough credit. You may want to go back and revisit anger, bargaining and depression, though. They're all ppretty critical steps in the recovery process.

    Byrnzie ? ummmmmmm or a Byrnzie wanna be ? stop the madness !

    Godfather.

  • unsung
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    unsung said:

    I'm curious about whether or not those that would prefer we do away with the 2nd Amendment would also prefer to do away with the 1st.

    Why does the desire for reasonable gun laws have the same meaning (to you) as "do away with the 2nd Amendment?"

    Surely you must acknowledge that the interpretation of the 2nd Amendment has gone a little far.

    Gun laws are not the responsibility of the federal government if you adhere to the Constitution.

    So yes, I agree they've gone too far.

  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    I'm curious about whether or not those that would prefer we do away with the 2nd Amendment would also prefer to do away with the 1st.

    Why does the desire for reasonable gun laws have the same meaning (to you) as "do away with the 2nd Amendment?"

    Surely you must acknowledge that the interpretation of the 2nd Amendment has gone a little far.

    Gun laws are not the responsibility of the federal government if you adhere to the Constitution.

    So yes, I agree they've gone too far.

    That's a pretty big IF. Another way to say that might be:

    When you don't adhere to the Constitution, Gun laws become the responsibility of the federal government.

    Given the results we've seen and experienced, perhaps they haven't gone far enough.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576

    CM189191 said:

    U.N. Resolution 2117

    This is what UN Resolutions 2117 was designed to prevent. But your boys went and f'd it all up. Now they're shooting at us with our own bullets. And will continue to for years to come. Profits win out over safety
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    CM189191 said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    I'm curious about whether or not those that would prefer we do away with the 2nd Amendment would also prefer to do away with the 1st.

    Why does the desire for reasonable gun laws have the same meaning (to you) as "do away with the 2nd Amendment?"

    Surely you must acknowledge that the interpretation of the 2nd Amendment has gone a little far.

    Gun laws are not the responsibility of the federal government if you adhere to the Constitution.

    So yes, I agree they've gone too far.

    That's a pretty big IF. Another way to say that might be:

    When you don't adhere to the Constitution, Gun laws become the responsibility of the federal government.

    Given the results we've seen and experienced, perhaps they haven't gone far enough.
    Or our elected officials could uphold their oath when they swore to.

    But that would require a backbone.

  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    unsung said:

    CM189191 said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    I'm curious about whether or not those that would prefer we do away with the 2nd Amendment would also prefer to do away with the 1st.

    Why does the desire for reasonable gun laws have the same meaning (to you) as "do away with the 2nd Amendment?"

    Surely you must acknowledge that the interpretation of the 2nd Amendment has gone a little far.

    Gun laws are not the responsibility of the federal government if you adhere to the Constitution.

    So yes, I agree they've gone too far.

    That's a pretty big IF. Another way to say that might be:

    When you don't adhere to the Constitution, Gun laws become the responsibility of the federal government.

    Given the results we've seen and experienced, perhaps they haven't gone far enough.
    Or our elected officials could uphold their oath when they swore to.

    But that would require a backbone.

    Who needs a backbone when you have a gun?

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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576

    CM189191 said:

    U.N. Resolution 2117

    This is what UN Resolutions 2117 was designed to prevent. But your boys went and f'd it all up. Now they're shooting at us with our own bullets. And will continue to for years to come. Profits win out over safety & security again.

    ISIS’ Ammunition Is Shown to Have Origins in U.S. and China

    "Never give up on what you really want to do. The person with big dreams is more powerful than one with all the facts."
    - Albert Einstein

    and maybe if these anti gun folks would just stay away from American gun owners and thier guns they might find something more constructive to do with thier lives rather than just whine all the time.


    Godfather.

    How is this post related to the quoted post? I don't get it at all.
    You hate ISIS and yet you have no problem with them using american ammo? You think those opposed to arming terrorists need to whine less and be more constructive?
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,667
    edited October 2014
    unsung said:

    So you would have posted on the subject all the same, right?

    I mean, if he had used a hammer. You'd have definitely let us know? Or would it not be sensationalist enough and not fit the agenda?

    If I heard an anesthesiologist used a hammer instead of some kind of drug that is readily at his disposal, I would definitely consider it an odd choice, lol.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    goddammitt so much....can we make it through a week without this shit?

    At least 6 injured after shooter opens fire in Washington state high school cafeteria

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/10/at-least-6-injured-after-shooter-opens-fire-in-washington-state-high-school-cafeteria/
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Cue the 'Good guy with a gun' narrative....

    Sacramento County deputy, father killed in shooting
    1 Sacramento County, 2 Placer County deputies shot

    http://www.kcra.com/news/deputy-shot-near-arden-way-in-sacramento/29320454#ixzz3H61FWnHy
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    edited October 2014
    Our next-door neighbor owns a successful local auto body repair and restoration shop. Good guy, works hard.

    Three nights ago, he was robbed at gunpoint. The asshole, wearing a mask and gloves, stuck the gun to his head, made him lie on his stomach, tied him up, stole his watch. Just the watch. Guessing he'd been observed for awhile.

    He told me people asked him if he had a gun or was considering getting one, and he said no. It would have done nothing in this situation.

    Didn't even report it to the police - one, the guy was masked, but even if caught, he didn't want retribution (they know where he works).

    Fucked up.

    Not as much as what went down today in CA and WA, but still.
    Post edited by hedonist on
  • Jason P said:

    The gun grab has begun and the FEMA camps have opened and are being occupied. Black helicopters are circling and men in black are descending ropes. The post office purchased millions of rounds of ammunition, local law enforcement has purchased armored vehicles and an executive order banning Congress has been issued................................................................................

    Peace.

    Ironically I did have some black helicoptors circling around my house a few weekends ago ... and a police department a few counties over from me (in deep farm country, pop 13,000) bought one of these ...


    image

    :-$
    Even the company who builds those armored vehicle things say that they shouldn't be on the street if not for the reason that its excessive force for the fact that they tear up the street and they are top heavy making them a danger to the public since they flip over too often. I believe the national guard doesn't even allow them on their bases for those reasons. Driving one of these around in US cities is like having the gestapo run the ticket booth at Disney Land. It doesn't help anything, it perpetuates fear and its a huge step backwards.
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