What's the most racist country on the planet?

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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    I think there's no doubt he singing it about folks like GF!
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  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    Godfather. said:

    after you shut off the T.V set and turn out the lights to go to bed think about the technology this country has achieved just in it's first 100 years and a 100 years or so later we landed a man on the moon,invented the home computer and ...the cell phone :)) lets see you do that on the back of a horse or in a tee-pee. =))


    Godfather.

    WOW, wait, WHAT? WTF? Really?
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    racist hooligans... now there is a group of geniuses
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    =)) :)) it was getting stale around here =))

    Godfather.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Godfather. said:

    =)) :)) it was getting stale around here =))

    Godfather.

    True. True. You livened the place up.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    callen said:

    Godfather. said:

    =)) :)) it was getting stale around here =))

    Godfather.

    True. True. You livened the place up.
    it's always the same thing around here, racism and America is the worst of all according to Byrnzie and then there are the Byrnzie Buddy's that can't wait to follow his rant
    so sometimes I just have to laugh, we are all intitled to an opinion right ? ...I mean really..a topic titled worst racist country..we just can't get enough racism here on the train and everything that happens is underlined with racism....LMAO ! here's a quote from somebody other than Eddie. "everything we do comes first from our imagination"


    Godfather.


  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    chadwick said:

    racist hooligans... now there is a group of geniuses

    :))

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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    edited September 2014
    Godfather. said:

    callen said:

    Godfather. said:

    =)) :)) it was getting stale around here =))

    Godfather.

    True. True. You livened the place up.
    it's always the same thing around here, racism and America is the worst of all according to Byrnzie and then there are the Byrnzie Buddy's that can't wait to follow his rant
    so sometimes I just have to laugh, we are all intitled to an opinion right ? ...I mean really..a topic titled worst racist country..we just can't get enough racism here on the train and everything that happens is underlined with racism....LMAO ! here's a quote from somebody other than Eddie. "everything we do comes first from our imagination"


    Godfather.


    Get what your saying on thread subject. Didn't know how to approach it and started off bad.
    Well till your post. Ha!

    Love it when you rowl up the troops. We can be like a pack animals just waiting, waiting, waiting then pounce on you evil righties.

    Said before I'm glad you and Unsung and others have different viewpoints. You have fortitude.

    Would suck if we were all liberal pinko commie tree huggers.

    >:)
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Godfather. said:

    callen said:

    Godfather. said:

    =)) :)) it was getting stale around here =))

    Godfather.

    True. True. You livened the place up.
    it's always the same thing around here, racism and America is the worst of all according to Byrnzie and then there are the Byrnzie Buddy's that can't wait to follow his rant
    so sometimes I just have to laugh, we are all intitled to an opinion right ? ...I mean really..a topic titled worst racist country..we just can't get enough racism here on the train and everything that happens is underlined with racism....LMAO ! here's a quote from somebody other than Eddie. "everything we do comes first from our imagination"


    Godfather.
    I would reply to this gibberish but the moderators would probably ban me for being 'offensive' and 'belittling'.

  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    badbrains said:

    Godfather. said:

    after you shut off the T.V set and turn out the lights to go to bed think about the technology this country has achieved just in it's first 100 years and a 100 years or so later we landed a man on the moon,invented the home computer and ...the cell phone :)) lets see you do that on the back of a horse or in a tee-pee. =))


    Godfather.

    WOW, wait, WHAT? WTF? Really?
    Yes, really. Just in case you thought the character in 'Do The Evolution' didn't have its counterpart in reality.

  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    Byrnzie said:

    badbrains said:

    Godfather. said:

    after you shut off the T.V set and turn out the lights to go to bed think about the technology this country has achieved just in it's first 100 years and a 100 years or so later we landed a man on the moon,invented the home computer and ...the cell phone :)) lets see you do that on the back of a horse or in a tee-pee. =))


    Godfather.

    WOW, wait, WHAT? WTF? Really?
    Yes, really. Just in case you thought the character in 'Do The Evolution' didn't have its counterpart in reality.

    Now everytime I see this live I'm gonna have a picture in my head of Brando wrapped in an American flag singing those lines.....
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    edited September 2014
    The institutionalized racism that ALL people of color face in the Unites States DAILY is not the same as your grandpappys overt shit or the banana throwing European brand. Take a drive through parts of Baltimore or Detroit or Los Angeles and look at it yourself.

    If racism bothers you so much Beezie, (judging by just the last 250 of your 20k+ posts, everything does...) then I challenge you to actually DO something about it. Instead of starting and then contributing to a number of inflammatory and generally unhelpful discussions about racism or war (on the Pearl Jam website ?? of all places...), then copying other peoples opinions from the web for days, why don't you actually formulate your own original viewpoint and then work toward change?

    I don't know you at all, but it seems to me like you thoroughly enjoy the sound of yourself typing...what if you refocused that energy toward something positive?

    So Beez, a year in, what are your thoughts on Lightning Bolt?
    Post edited by ikiT on
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,379
    the tiki bomb said:

    The institutionalized racism that ALL people of color face in the Unites States DAILY is not the same as your grandpappys overt shit or the banana throwing European brand. Take a drive through parts of Baltimore or Detroit or Los Angeles and look at it yourself.

    If racism bothers you so much Beezie, (judging by just the last 250 of your 20k+ posts, everything does...) then I challenge you to actually DO something about it. Instead of starting and then contributing to a number of inflammatory and generally unhelpful discussions about racism or war (on the Pearl Jam website ?? of all places...), then copying other peoples opinions from the web for days, why don't you actually formulate your own original viewpoint and then work toward change?

    I don't know you at all, but it seems to me like you thoroughly enjoy the sound of yourself typing...what if you refocused that energy toward something positive?

    So Beez, a year in, what are your thoughts on Lightning Bolt?

    Sorry tiki bomb, but this post has me scratching my head. For one, if you read the last 250 posts by Byrnzie, I'd assume you'd have known his name (not Beezie). My name is Ben - if someone called me Bon over and over again I'd get a bit frustrated.

    For another, typically we are welcome to share our opinions, and seek to back those up with evidence, as provided through a multitude of voices who are seen as experts on a topic. Had Byrnzie not posted anything, I suspect you'd have some choice words for his opinion (i.e. non-factual) posts.

    As far as 'inflammatory' remarks go, I've seen none of those on this thread from Byrnzie. Is he drawing attention to unfounded racism? Certainly. Is he contributing it himself? I haven't seen anything to that effect. I rarely see bringing awareness to the masses (or the educated minority, as I believe us to be here collectively) to be a bad thing, and you have the right to refute anything with evidences just as Byrnzie does.

    Next topic: the location of this thread. This is called "A Moving Train". The purpose of it, is to share "Politics, current events - reasoned debate and discussion - we can all learn something new." If you want to read about Pearl Jam, the easy solution is to leave this part of the board. I think we all hang out here because we see the value in differing opinions and an intelligent audience.

    As far as actionable follow-up goes, I'm absolutely an advocate for that, and I do too question what we can do as a next step once we recognize these problems.

    I'm sorry to be brash and condescending here, but what would you propose Byrnzie's positive acts be - pivoting this conversation to discuss a Pearl Jam album? Seriously?
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    EV
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    Commenting on the OP and not the topic was out of line and against the rules...my bad.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited September 2014
    benjs said:

    the tiki bomb said:

    The institutionalized racism that ALL people of color face in the Unites States DAILY is not the same as your grandpappys overt shit or the banana throwing European brand. Take a drive through parts of Baltimore or Detroit or Los Angeles and look at it yourself.

    If racism bothers you so much Beezie, (judging by just the last 250 of your 20k+ posts, everything does...) then I challenge you to actually DO something about it. Instead of starting and then contributing to a number of inflammatory and generally unhelpful discussions about racism or war (on the Pearl Jam website ?? of all places...), then copying other peoples opinions from the web for days, why don't you actually formulate your own original viewpoint and then work toward change?

    I don't know you at all, but it seems to me like you thoroughly enjoy the sound of yourself typing...what if you refocused that energy toward something positive?

    So Beez, a year in, what are your thoughts on Lightning Bolt?

    Sorry tiki bomb, but this post has me scratching my head. For one, if you read the last 250 posts by Byrnzie, I'd assume you'd have known his name (not Beezie). My name is Ben - if someone called me Bon over and over again I'd get a bit frustrated.

    For another, typically we are welcome to share our opinions, and seek to back those up with evidence, as provided through a multitude of voices who are seen as experts on a topic. Had Byrnzie not posted anything, I suspect you'd have some choice words for his opinion (i.e. non-factual) posts.

    As far as 'inflammatory' remarks go, I've seen none of those on this thread from Byrnzie. Is he drawing attention to unfounded racism? Certainly. Is he contributing it himself? I haven't seen anything to that effect. I rarely see bringing awareness to the masses (or the educated minority, as I believe us to be here collectively) to be a bad thing, and you have the right to refute anything with evidences just as Byrnzie does.

    Next topic: the location of this thread. This is called "A Moving Train". The purpose of it, is to share "Politics, current events - reasoned debate and discussion - we can all learn something new." If you want to read about Pearl Jam, the easy solution is to leave this part of the board. I think we all hang out here because we see the value in differing opinions and an intelligent audience.

    As far as actionable follow-up goes, I'm absolutely an advocate for that, and I do too question what we can do as a next step once we recognize these problems.

    I'm sorry to be brash and condescending here, but what would you propose Byrnzie's positive acts be - pivoting this conversation to discuss a Pearl Jam album? Seriously?
    Thanks. But I think you're wasting your time responding intelligently to the shit bomb. Looks like an obvious case of trolling to me.
    Obviously I would love to tell the shit bomb what I really think of his trolling nonsense, but again, I'd be accused of offending or belittling him if I did.

  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,379
    Byrnzie said:

    benjs said:

    the tiki bomb said:

    The institutionalized racism that ALL people of color face in the Unites States DAILY is not the same as your grandpappys overt shit or the banana throwing European brand. Take a drive through parts of Baltimore or Detroit or Los Angeles and look at it yourself.

    If racism bothers you so much Beezie, (judging by just the last 250 of your 20k+ posts, everything does...) then I challenge you to actually DO something about it. Instead of starting and then contributing to a number of inflammatory and generally unhelpful discussions about racism or war (on the Pearl Jam website ?? of all places...), then copying other peoples opinions from the web for days, why don't you actually formulate your own original viewpoint and then work toward change?

    I don't know you at all, but it seems to me like you thoroughly enjoy the sound of yourself typing...what if you refocused that energy toward something positive?

    So Beez, a year in, what are your thoughts on Lightning Bolt?

    Sorry tiki bomb, but this post has me scratching my head. For one, if you read the last 250 posts by Byrnzie, I'd assume you'd have known his name (not Beezie). My name is Ben - if someone called me Bon over and over again I'd get a bit frustrated.

    For another, typically we are welcome to share our opinions, and seek to back those up with evidence, as provided through a multitude of voices who are seen as experts on a topic. Had Byrnzie not posted anything, I suspect you'd have some choice words for his opinion (i.e. non-factual) posts.

    As far as 'inflammatory' remarks go, I've seen none of those on this thread from Byrnzie. Is he drawing attention to unfounded racism? Certainly. Is he contributing it himself? I haven't seen anything to that effect. I rarely see bringing awareness to the masses (or the educated minority, as I believe us to be here collectively) to be a bad thing, and you have the right to refute anything with evidences just as Byrnzie does.

    Next topic: the location of this thread. This is called "A Moving Train". The purpose of it, is to share "Politics, current events - reasoned debate and discussion - we can all learn something new." If you want to read about Pearl Jam, the easy solution is to leave this part of the board. I think we all hang out here because we see the value in differing opinions and an intelligent audience.

    As far as actionable follow-up goes, I'm absolutely an advocate for that, and I do too question what we can do as a next step once we recognize these problems.

    I'm sorry to be brash and condescending here, but what would you propose Byrnzie's positive acts be - pivoting this conversation to discuss a Pearl Jam album? Seriously?
    Thanks. But I think you're wasting your time responding intelligently to the shit bomb. Looks like an obvious case of trolling to me.
    Obviously I would love to tell the shit bomb what I really think of his trolling nonsense, but again, I'd be accused of offending or belittling him if I did.

    He can complain about me to the mods instead if he cares to then. If there's one thing I hate it's statements designed to suppress and snuff clear and reasonable discussion.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    the tiki bomb said:

    Commenting on the OP and not the topic was out of line and against the rules...my bad.

    That'll get you off the hook then, right mods?

  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    the tiki bomb said:

    If there's one thing I hate it's statements designed to suppress and snuff clear and reasonable discussion.

    Some people are just uncomfortable discussing certain topics, so they focus on the person instead as a way of deflecting. It's much easier to talk shit about somebody than to engage in the discussion at hand.
    Take a look at the article by Glenn Greenwald I posted on the Chomsky thread here on page one of the train on the subject of people attacking the character of those whose views they find unpalatable.


  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Godfather. said:

    callen said:

    Godfather. said:

    =)) :)) it was getting stale around here =))

    Godfather.

    True. True. You livened the place up.
    it's always the same thing around here, racism and America is the worst of all according to Byrnzie and then there are the Byrnzie Buddy's that can't wait to follow his rant
    so sometimes I just have to laugh, we are all intitled to an opinion right ? ...I mean really..a topic titled worst racist country..we just can't get enough racism here on the train and everything that happens is underlined with racism....LMAO ! here's a quote from somebody other than Eddie. "everything we do comes first from our imagination"


    Godfather.



    Continually denying the existence of, and belittling the impact of racism IS racism.
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    I'm glad that got straightened out.
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