What's the most racist country on the planet?

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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    Spain never released Aragones after he made his brutal comment. He never apologized either- choosing to defend his words by saying he likes gypsies. This says a ton about the general, or accepted, mentality at the time.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Godfather. said:





    Byrnzie said:

    brianlux said:

    I know people who will disagree with me on this, but I think we still have to acknowledge one of the greatest, most horrific acts of racism of all time was AND IS the American genocide of the First Nations/Native American/American Indian people. We wiped them out, shoved them around, herded the survivors on to shit hole pieces of land, shoved alcohol down their throats, gave them a few dollars- just enough to live on but not enough to move up- and proselytized them with our phoney religions. And then to add insult to injury we came up with all kinds of groovy ways to alleviate our guilt by making fake imitation dream catchers, and symbols to hang from our rear view mirrors and pendants, symbols and jewelry to hang on ourselves to become pretend Indians... while the real Indians are still being fucked.

    True. And Leonard Peltier still resides in jail today for a crime that he didn't commit back in 1976. And the majority of native Americans continue to live in abject poverty within one of the wealthiest countries on Earth.

    yes I disagree.
    You disagree? You disagree that one of the most horrific acts of racism in history was the genocide of the Native American Indians? How so?

  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    Godfather. said:





    Byrnzie said:

    brianlux said:

    I know people who will disagree with me on this, but I think we still have to acknowledge one of the greatest, most horrific acts of racism of all time was AND IS the American genocide of the First Nations/Native American/American Indian people. We wiped them out, shoved them around, herded the survivors on to shit hole pieces of land, shoved alcohol down their throats, gave them a few dollars- just enough to live on but not enough to move up- and proselytized them with our phoney religions. And then to add insult to injury we came up with all kinds of groovy ways to alleviate our guilt by making fake imitation dream catchers, and symbols to hang from our rear view mirrors and pendants, symbols and jewelry to hang on ourselves to become pretend Indians... while the real Indians are still being fucked.

    True. And Leonard Peltier still resides in jail today for a crime that he didn't commit back in 1976. And the majority of native Americans continue to live in abject poverty within one of the wealthiest countries on Earth.

    yes I disagree.


    Godfather.

    Godfather... did you read the disclaimer before posting what you did (it's italicized below)?

    By disagreeing with this post, you establish the fact that you are the possessor of racial attitudes which have the effect of further perpetuating an intolerant society that many very good people are trying to improve. Further, by disagreeing you also submit to anyone who reads your post the fact that you are incapable of critical thought and are devoid of some of the most important, desirable and basic human qualities like empathy. Lastly, if spelling has routinely been a problem within the content of your MT posts and you have disagreed with this post, your grade 5 education certificate is hereby revoked.
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  • badbrains
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    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Godfather. said:





    Byrnzie said:

    brianlux said:

    I know people who will disagree with me on this, but I think we still have to acknowledge one of the greatest, most horrific acts of racism of all time was AND IS the American genocide of the First Nations/Native American/American Indian people. We wiped them out, shoved them around, herded the survivors on to shit hole pieces of land, shoved alcohol down their throats, gave them a few dollars- just enough to live on but not enough to move up- and proselytized them with our phoney religions. And then to add insult to injury we came up with all kinds of groovy ways to alleviate our guilt by making fake imitation dream catchers, and symbols to hang from our rear view mirrors and pendants, symbols and jewelry to hang on ourselves to become pretend Indians... while the real Indians are still being fucked.

    True. And Leonard Peltier still resides in jail today for a crime that he didn't commit back in 1976. And the majority of native Americans continue to live in abject poverty within one of the wealthiest countries on Earth.

    yes I disagree.


    Godfather.

    Godfather... did you read the disclaimer before posting what you did (it's italicized below)?

    By disagreeing with this post, you establish the fact that you are the possessor of racial attitudes which have the effect of further perpetuating an intolerant society that many very good people are trying to improve. Further, by disagreeing you also submit to anyone who reads your post the fact that you are incapable of critical thought and are devoid of some of the most important, desirable and basic human qualities like empathy. Lastly, if spelling has routinely been a problem within the content of your MT posts and you have disagreed with this post, your grade 5 education certificate is hereby revoked.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Godfather. said:

    Byrnzie said:

    brianlux said:

    I know people who will disagree with me on this, but I think we still have to acknowledge one of the greatest, most horrific acts of racism of all time was AND IS the American genocide of the First Nations/Native American/American Indian people. We wiped them out, shoved them around, herded the survivors on to shit hole pieces of land, shoved alcohol down their throats, gave them a few dollars- just enough to live on but not enough to move up- and proselytized them with our phoney religions. And then to add insult to injury we came up with all kinds of groovy ways to alleviate our guilt by making fake imitation dream catchers, and symbols to hang from our rear view mirrors and pendants, symbols and jewelry to hang on ourselves to become pretend Indians... while the real Indians are still being fucked.

    True. And Leonard Peltier still resides in jail today for a crime that he didn't commit back in 1976. And the majority of native Americans continue to live in abject poverty within one of the wealthiest countries on Earth.
    yes I disagree.


    Godfather.
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  • Byrnzie
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    rgambs said:

    Godfather. said:





    Byrnzie said:

    brianlux said:

    I know people who will disagree with me on this, but I think we still have to acknowledge one of the greatest, most horrific acts of racism of all time was AND IS the American genocide of the First Nations/Native American/American Indian people. We wiped them out, shoved them around, herded the survivors on to shit hole pieces of land, shoved alcohol down their throats, gave them a few dollars- just enough to live on but not enough to move up- and proselytized them with our phoney religions. And then to add insult to injury we came up with all kinds of groovy ways to alleviate our guilt by making fake imitation dream catchers, and symbols to hang from our rear view mirrors and pendants, symbols and jewelry to hang on ourselves to become pretend Indians... while the real Indians are still being fucked.

    True. And Leonard Peltier still resides in jail today for a crime that he didn't commit back in 1976. And the majority of native Americans continue to live in abject poverty within one of the wealthiest countries on Earth.

    yes I disagree.


    Godfather.

    You disagree, you think the genocide was not racist or that it no longer needs to be acknowledged?
    I think we should learn from the past and learn about the past but never dwell on the past,move forward...most people add their own twist on past history and pick and choose what parts they believe to be true.

    Godfather.

  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Byrnzie said:

    Godfather. said:

    Byrnzie said:

    brianlux said:

    I know people who will disagree with me on this, but I think we still have to acknowledge one of the greatest, most horrific acts of racism of all time was AND IS the American genocide of the First Nations/Native American/American Indian people. We wiped them out, shoved them around, herded the survivors on to shit hole pieces of land, shoved alcohol down their throats, gave them a few dollars- just enough to live on but not enough to move up- and proselytized them with our phoney religions. And then to add insult to injury we came up with all kinds of groovy ways to alleviate our guilt by making fake imitation dream catchers, and symbols to hang from our rear view mirrors and pendants, symbols and jewelry to hang on ourselves to become pretend Indians... while the real Indians are still being fucked.

    True. And Leonard Peltier still resides in jail today for a crime that he didn't commit back in 1976. And the majority of native Americans continue to live in abject poverty within one of the wealthiest countries on Earth.
    yes I disagree.


    Godfather.
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    and so many refuse to really learn and understand the past-Godfather.


    Godfather.

  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Jason P said:

    rgambs said:

    Jason P said:

    I think a good measuring stick of the overall racism is the behavier of fans at sporting events towards minorities. I know the US had some problems in the past but things seem quite normal in current day. Heck, my favorite hockey player is from the former Soviet Union. But overall I don't see much discrimination with the exception of when PK Subban scores a game winning goal in Boston and twitter lights up (this is a region that likes to use the word "wicked" alot ... overall US public should not be judged).

    But compared to what I see happen at football matches in Europe and the rest of the world, we are the cat's meow.

    I think that's a terrible measuring stick considering in our popular sports the white players are the minorities. Baseball and hockey aren't that popular compared to football and basketball. In Euro soccer there are far fewer people of color and so more overt racism would be expected. Who is gonna heckle black folks openly at sporting events when practically their whole team is black?
    I think that is a very bad example to justify fan behavier at football matches. Racism should not be tolerated by any fan base, team management, governing body, or country.
    I'm not justifying, only saying it doesn't paint a clear picture because with football and basketball in the US the racism is mostly kept behind closed doors, and not overtly displayed at stadiums. We may seems cat's meowish, but I have heard a ton of racial slurs in private that would have been kept quiet in public.
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    badbrains said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Godfather. said:





    Byrnzie said:

    brianlux said:

    I know people who will disagree with me on this, but I think we still have to acknowledge one of the greatest, most horrific acts of racism of all time was AND IS the American genocide of the First Nations/Native American/American Indian people. We wiped them out, shoved them around, herded the survivors on to shit hole pieces of land, shoved alcohol down their throats, gave them a few dollars- just enough to live on but not enough to move up- and proselytized them with our phoney religions. And then to add insult to injury we came up with all kinds of groovy ways to alleviate our guilt by making fake imitation dream catchers, and symbols to hang from our rear view mirrors and pendants, symbols and jewelry to hang on ourselves to become pretend Indians... while the real Indians are still being fucked.

    True. And Leonard Peltier still resides in jail today for a crime that he didn't commit back in 1976. And the majority of native Americans continue to live in abject poverty within one of the wealthiest countries on Earth.

    yes I disagree.


    Godfather.

    Godfather... did you read the disclaimer before posting what you did (it's italicized below)?

    By disagreeing with this post, you establish the fact that you are the possessor of racial attitudes which have the effect of further perpetuating an intolerant society that many very good people are trying to improve. Further, by disagreeing you also submit to anyone who reads your post the fact that you are incapable of critical thought and are devoid of some of the most important, desirable and basic human qualities like empathy. Lastly, if spelling has routinely been a problem within the content of your MT posts and you have disagreed with this post, your grade 5 education certificate is hereby revoked.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Godfather. said:

    rgambs said:

    Godfather. said:





    Byrnzie said:

    brianlux said:

    I know people who will disagree with me on this, but I think we still have to acknowledge one of the greatest, most horrific acts of racism of all time was AND IS the American genocide of the First Nations/Native American/American Indian people. We wiped them out, shoved them around, herded the survivors on to shit hole pieces of land, shoved alcohol down their throats, gave them a few dollars- just enough to live on but not enough to move up- and proselytized them with our phoney religions. And then to add insult to injury we came up with all kinds of groovy ways to alleviate our guilt by making fake imitation dream catchers, and symbols to hang from our rear view mirrors and pendants, symbols and jewelry to hang on ourselves to become pretend Indians... while the real Indians are still being fucked.

    True. And Leonard Peltier still resides in jail today for a crime that he didn't commit back in 1976. And the majority of native Americans continue to live in abject poverty within one of the wealthiest countries on Earth.

    yes I disagree.


    Godfather.

    You disagree, you think the genocide was not racist or that it no longer needs to be acknowledged?
    I think we should learn from the past and learn about the past but never dwell on the past,move forward...most people add their own twist on past history and pick and choose what parts they believe to be true.

    Godfather.

    With all due respect, GF, we're not just talking about the past. We're talking about today, right now.

    Also, if part of your disagreement is over the innocence of Leonard Peltier, maybe seeing this film would give you cause to change your mind:

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104504/

    That Peltier has never been granted parole is both a tragedy and a travesty.

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    after you shut off the T.V set and turn out the lights to go to bed think about the technology this country has achieved just in it's first 100 years and a 100 years or so later we landed a man on the moon,invented the home computer and ...the cell phone :)) lets see you do that on the back of a horse or in a tee-pee. =))


    Godfather.
  • Idris
    Idris Posts: 2,317
    Godfather. said:

    after you shut off the T.V set and turn out the lights to go to bed think about the technology this country has achieved just in it's first 100 years and a 100 years or so later we landed a man on the moon,invented the home computer and ...the cell phone :)) lets see you do that on the back of a horse or in a tee-pee. =))


    Godfather.

    what?
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    edited September 2014
    Godfather. said:

    after you shut off the T.V set and turn out the lights to go to bed think about the technology this country has achieved just in it's first 100 years and a 100 years or so later we landed a man on the moon,invented the home computer and ...the cell phone :)) lets see you do that on the back of a horse or in a tee-pee. =))


    Godfather.

    Fuckin'- A , GF, WTF???

    I hope you're kidding.Please tell us you're kidding.

    Post edited by brianlux on
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Godfather. said:

    after you shut off the T.V set and turn out the lights to go to bed think about the technology this country has achieved just in it's first 100 years and a 100 years or so later we landed a man on the moon,invented the home computer and ...the cell phone :)) lets see you do that on the back of a horse or in a tee-pee. =))


    Godfather.

    You enjoy being the bad guy don't you?
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited September 2014
    brianlux said:

    Also, if part of your disagreement is over the innocence of Leonard Peltier, maybe seeing this film would give you cause to change your mind:

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104504/

    That Peltier has never been granted parole is both a tragedy and a travesty.

    Incident at Oglala - The Leonard Peltier Story [Part 1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-TzSt4EBcI

    Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypAMbGA_i8E

    Post edited by Byrnzie on
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    brianlux said:

    Godfather. said:

    after you shut off the T.V set and turn out the lights to go to bed think about the technology this country has achieved just in it's first 100 years and a 100 years or so later we landed a man on the moon,invented the home computer and ...the cell phone :)) lets see you do that on the back of a horse or in a tee-pee. =))


    Godfather.

    Fuckin'- A , GF, WTF???

    I hope you're kidding.Please tell us you're kidding.
    "Admire me, admire my home
    Admire my son, admire my clones
    'Cause we know, appetite for a nightly feast
    Those ignorant Indians got nothin' on me
    Nothin', why?
    Because... it's evolution, baby!"

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Byrnzie said:

    brianlux said:

    Godfather. said:

    after you shut off the T.V set and turn out the lights to go to bed think about the technology this country has achieved just in it's first 100 years and a 100 years or so later we landed a man on the moon,invented the home computer and ...the cell phone :)) lets see you do that on the back of a horse or in a tee-pee. =))


    Godfather.

    Fuckin'- A , GF, WTF???

    I hope you're kidding.Please tell us you're kidding.
    "Admire me, admire my home
    Admire my son, admire my clones
    'Cause we know, appetite for a nightly feast
    Those ignorant Indians got nothin' on me
    Nothin', why?
    Because... it's evolution, baby!"

    One of PJ's best, for sure!

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Godfather, here's a serious question for you: The song 'Do the Evolution'; do you think that Vedder is singing that song as himself?
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    brianlux said:

    One of PJ's best, for sure!

    I heard the best live version of it that I've ever heard recently - but now I've forgotten which live show it was. I need to rack my brains to try and remember.

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