What's the most racist country on the planet?

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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    unsung said:

    It seems to me that any group that government tries to "help" and make amends usually hurts them in the long run.

    Care to elaborate?

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    I looked at a number of sites on the internet and one said the U.S. was the most racist country in the world and another the the U.S. was one of the least racist countries. Both of these cites rated India as one of the least tolerant/most racist countries.

    A number of cites listed Australia as one of the least racist.

    Several cites reported Sweden, Norway and Denmark as the least racist.

    Too bad the antarctic isn't a country. Surely it would be least racist.
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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    How would you determine such a thing? Wouldn't any poll be subjective?
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    lukin2006 said:

    How would you determine such a thing? Wouldn't any poll be subjective?

    It's impossible to determine such a thing.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited September 2014
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    lukin2006 said:

    How would you determine such a thing? Wouldn't any poll be subjective?

    It's impossible to determine such a thing.
    It's no more impossible than determining which is the best country to live in, which they do every year. It may not be an exact science, but they get a pretty good idea of it.

    It could be measured by studying state policies towards ethnic minorities and indigenous peoples. By studying the numbers of racist attacks, and reports of abuse and violence. It can be measured by looking at the treatment of asylum seekers - Australia also has one of the worst, if not the worst, record in that regards too.

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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    Byrnzie said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    lukin2006 said:

    How would you determine such a thing? Wouldn't any poll be subjective?

    It's impossible to determine such a thing.
    It's no more impossible than determining which is the best country to live in, which they do every year. It may not be an exact science, but they get a pretty good idea of it.

    It could be measured by studying state policies towards ethnic minorities and indigenous peoples. By studying the numbers of racist attacks, and reports of abuse and violence. It can be measured by looking at the treatment of asylum seekers - Australia also has one of the worst, if not the worst, record in that regards too.

    I wouldn't necessarily disagree with any of this to gauge what you ask, but even the 'best country' analyses are fraught with error.

    I have my opinions that jumped to the forefront of my mind upon considering your question, but my opinions have much to do with what has meant most to me studying history and current events. In other words, my opinion is not nearly qualified enough to speculate.
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  • Idris
    Idris Posts: 2,317
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Byrnzie said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    lukin2006 said:

    How would you determine such a thing? Wouldn't any poll be subjective?

    It's impossible to determine such a thing.
    It's no more impossible than determining which is the best country to live in, which they do every year. It may not be an exact science, but they get a pretty good idea of it.

    It could be measured by studying state policies towards ethnic minorities and indigenous peoples. By studying the numbers of racist attacks, and reports of abuse and violence. It can be measured by looking at the treatment of asylum seekers - Australia also has one of the worst, if not the worst, record in that regards too.

    I wouldn't necessarily disagree with any of this to gauge what you ask, but even the 'best country' analyses are fraught with error.

    I have my opinions that jumped to the forefront of my mind upon considering your question, but my opinions have much to do with what has meant most to me studying history and current events. In other words, my opinion is not nearly qualified enough to speculate.
    nevertheless! what are they?
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Hahaha. You've been curious today in this forum. Get PJ Soul to tell her story and then maybe I'll insult some people and tell them I think their country is racist!
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  • Idris
    Idris Posts: 2,317
    edited September 2014
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Hahaha. You've been curious today in this forum. Get PJ Soul to tell her story and then maybe I'll insult some people and tell them I think their country is racist!

    What?

    I asked Pj Soul cause she gave this long post about a story that she does not want to tell 'again' (cause people don't believe her), so I asked her to point us in the direction to where she originally posted it. Curious indeed! How can anyone not be?

    as for you? You have opinions that jumped to the forefront of your mind, so, let's hear them?
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    unsung said:

    Byrnzie said:

    unsung said:

    Zimbabwe

    In what way? You mean white racism against blacks, or blacks against the white landowners?
    And Is it comparable to the level of institutional racism in, say, Australia?


    Mugabe has stated that whites can't own land and that they should go.
    Is that all there is to that story? Or is there more to it than that? Who are the whites in Zimbabwe? And why have blacks in that country turned against them?
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Don't get me wrong! I wanted to hear as bad as you.

    I wanted to follow this thread more than participate in it. I'm kinda settling into some idiot box right now, but let me come back tomorrow and reconsider.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Jason P said:

    Imperial Japan was a very xenophobic culture. From what I understand they have improved post war but they still tend to look down their nose upon foreigners.

    I've heard it's still difficult for foreigners to be admitted into hotels in some parts of Japan.
    Maybe the racism/xenophobia that still exists there is a consequence of the fact that they occupied and otherwise trampled on a lot of their neighbors for long periods of their history.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    edited September 2014
    The impression I get (from having had a Japanese girl friend years ago, and other Japanese friends at various times, and reading a number of book about the Pacific theater in WWII) regarding Japan is that it's more a matter of honor-related extremism. In other words- they see themselves as the supreme race more so than they see other races as inferior- if that makes sense. I can't prove this, but I'll bet a large number of white supremacists really deep down inside hate themselves and so the take the hate out on other non-whites whereas the Japanese people really just don't have any self hate.

    Edit: ...unless they dishonor their family or nation in which case they kill themselves.

    edit #2: I also have the sense that when Japanese become more Americanized they lose some of that extreme nationalism. My Japanese American friends have all been more American than Japanese. My girl friend's parents were born in Japan and even after living in the U.S. a few decades, they were rather traditional but she was born in the U.S. and was more comfortable with and befriended those of various other races.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    JWPearl said:

    its the goverments fault for not enforcing education upon them

    What makes you think you have the right to 'force education upon them'? They lived perfectly well fr 40,000 years before the white's landed on their shores.
    I actually happen to think that you've got it the wrong way around; that it's the white Australians who need educating.

  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    Pretty racist here

    http://m.hrw.org/news/2014/09/09/israel-thousands-coerced-leaving-country
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    edited September 2014
    thank you, byrnzie, thank you very much for the statement directly up above badbrains here. that is exactly what i was thinking days ago but did not share my thoughts on it. fucking good to go killing & taking lands from indigenous peoples.... this makes me fucking ill, sad as shit & throughly irritated.

    hold them down, keep them down, savages that they are! fuck

    the sophisticated power-hungry oppressors can kiss my frickin ass.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Ahh but how can they get into Heaven if we don't teach them the white man's ways??
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    good frickin question, rgambs. i like the sarcasm. good stuff
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    chadwick said:

    good frickin question, rgambs. i like the sarcasm. good stuff

    I've said it before and I'll say it again, there are some very smart fuckers here.
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    I've been considering this question for a couple of days. It's difficult to answer for me.

    Here's why: I can think of some countries who currently dominate headlines or engage in racist practices that obviously jump to the forefront of such a discussion... but as I do that... I think of other countries that might not be so prolific at the moment... yet have their own, very shameful- and comparatively recent- histories which shouldn't be overlooked in such a discussion.

    Do some countries get a 'pass' in this exercise because other countries have blocked out their pasts by serving as the racist 'flavours of the day'?
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