America's Gun Violence

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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited September 2014

    The reason the general public doesn't need an assault rifle is the same reason why the general public doesn't need a rocket launcher.

    I don't give two shits about how gun enthusiasts want to misinterpret the constitution. People will keep dying needlessly and we'll eventually have much stronger gun controls then even the liberals are asking for now. All this because of the rights obsession with making themselves feel like their penises are bigger by having assault weapons.

    Interestingly enough, many of my liberal friends are hunters and own some of these so called "assault rifles" as well. Again, good luck persuading any gun owners to give even a little with rhetoric like this. I do not give one shit about your misinterpretation of the 2nd amendment.
    And my penis is adequately sized regardless of my choice of rifles, thank you very much, lol
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    unsung said:

    Mental health issues are a very minor part of shootings, just like the use of an AR15. It is what sells newspapers though.

    You want to get to the heart of the issue? What are the demographics of most shootings in Chicago? It isn't mental health.

    Poor and under educated?
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited September 2014
    Damn double posts!!!
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,576
    PJ_Soul said:

    I just think it's time for them to completely rewrite the 2nd amendment.

    Or just take it for what it actually says and in the time/context it was written in.

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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,576
    My point? Just pointing out America's gun violence....aptly placed under the correct thread
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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
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    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited September 2014

    My point? Just pointing out America's gun violence....aptly placed under the correct thread

    Well I guess the woman did violently stop the intruder with the help of a gun in my post above.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,576
    PJPOWER said:

    Well I guess the woman did violently stop the intruder with the help of a gun in my post above.
    Yes she did....I would have shot him before he got that close to me though. No assault rifle required.

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    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    PJPOWER said:

    Well I guess the woman did violently stop the intruder with the help of a gun in my post above.
    And how many innocent people were killed with guns today? Guns stolen from home owners like this woman.

    More guns. Woo hoo. Shoot em up.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    callen said:

    And how many innocent people were killed with guns today? Guns stolen from home owners like this woman.

    More guns. Woo hoo. Shoot em up.
    I don't know, please tell me how many?
  • PJPOWER said:

    "Hold below eye level and spray more effectively". Wow, now I've heard everything... I thought we had already established that semi-auto rifles do not "spray bullets". And I would like to see someone accurately shoot a gun without holding it up to look through the sights. Sounds like you have watched one too many Rambo movies. You clearly do not have enough knowledge of firearms to convince any firearm owner to give theirs up...good luck to you my friend.
    Yee Haw.

    Do you think Lanza took aim at every one of those kids or do you think he sprayed a few shots pulling the trigger as fast as he could assisted by his pistol grip?

    My friend.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited September 2014

    Yee Haw.

    Do you think Lanza took aim at every one of those kids or do you think he sprayed a few shots pulling the trigger as fast as he could assisted by his pistol grip?

    My friend.
    Coming from someone that is quite familiar with using a pistol grip...I can confidently say that it probably made no difference what so ever. A pistol grip does not give some kind of magical tactical advantage like some uneducated people like to imagine. I'm guessing that your odds of hitting someone in a crowded room at close proximity are probably pretty high no matter what you are using or whether you are aiming or not.
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  • PJ_Soul said:

    I just think it's time for them to completely rewrite the 2nd amendment.

    What's the point? The actual wording of the 2nd Amendment is irrelevant. No matter how you rewrite it, gun advocates will continue to demand absolute deregulation of firearms. America has had a longstanding obsession with firearms. No amount of legislation or regulation can change that. Changing the Constitution wouldn't do anything. Just take solace in knowing that this obsession with guns isn't nearly as predominant in Canada.
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    callen said:

    Poor and under educated?

    You are on the right track.
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487

    Yee Haw.

    Do you think Lanza took aim at every one of those kids or do you think he sprayed a few shots pulling the trigger as fast as he could assisted by his pistol grip?

    My friend.

    Really?

    Your argument has come down to a pistol grip?

    This thread has become humorous.
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    PJ_Soul said:

    I just think it's time for them to completely rewrite the 2nd amendment.


    I'll bite.

    What should it say?
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    unsung said:


    Really?

    Your argument has come down to a pistol grip?

    This thread has become humorous.
    Some fellow coworkers and I are getting a good laugh about it :)
  • unsung said:


    I'll bite.

    What should it say?
    Every American has the right to shoot first and ask questions later.

    I think that should do it.
  • PJPOWER said:

    Some fellow coworkers and I are getting a good laugh about it :)
    Well it must be welcome relief from the typical day where all your co-workers laugh at your tooth.

    This has not come down to a pistol grip, Unsung. This has come down to some guy telling everyone they don't know what defines an assault rifle. I told him some of the distinguishing characteristics that typically define an assault rifle.

    What doesn't keep coming up is the responses one might expect from some of the prudent points made that Cletus wishes to dodge because he either doesn't understand what has been presented to him or he simply has no answer for.

    Here's a lower level thinking stumper: how many bullets did Lanza fire that infamous day with his (hyuk hyuk) assault rifle?

    Stumper number two which requires slightly above average thinking ability: would it have been possible for Lanza to fire that many shots with a shotgun or hunting rifle and a smaller magazine.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • unsung said:


    Really?

    Your argument has come down to a pistol grip?

    This thread has become humorous.
    Not near as humorous as you being challenged to present data to back up your silly claim earlier to which you had none.

    Let a couple pages go by and fire up again, huh? We haven't forgotten there, Champ.

    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    edited September 2014

    Every American has the right to shoot first and ask questions later.

    I think that should do it.
    ................

    nicely done, blue&white. you'll be taken seriously from here on out. thank you for your time & wonderful & clear thoughtout bull manure
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited September 2014
    Wow, someone is now in a tiz. I am far from being your backwoods redneck that you are implying (that's a little further easy Texas, ha), but when all of your other arguments fail...demonize demonize demonize. I am done responding to you and your insults. Real mature of you. I may have missed something, but I'm pretty sure I've responded to all of your bullshit, although it may not have been the response you desired. Carry on being a jackass to someone else.
    "Ye haw, hyuk hyuk hyuk"-as stated by YOU!
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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    It's par for the course.

    Person says that mental is a huge problem with gun crimes, I disagree and I'm told to provide proof. Since I refuse to do the research for them they try to belittle my case. 500 people killed in Chicago annually, a high majority are gang related, yet I need to provide proof. Yeah, ok.
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    unsung said:

    It's par for the course.

    Person says that mental is a huge problem with gun crimes, I disagree and I'm told to provide proof. Since I refuse to do the research for them they try to belittle my case. 500 people killed in Chicago annually, a high majority are gang related, yet I need to provide proof. Yeah, ok.

    If CNN didn't report it, it didn't happen :)
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    edited September 2014
    unsung said:


    You are on the right track.
    Yeay!!! :D

    We have challenges and I will admit that human behavior change will do more than restricting guns.

    Now getting funding to address the problem will now be our rub Mr Unsung. So what do we do. We can't just shoot our way out of the problem and don't want to live in society with everyone having six shooter strapped to their waist.

    Store owner and robbers got into gun battle in my fair city today and mom pushing stroller was hit.
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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487



    This has not come down to a pistol grip, Unsung. This has come down to some guy telling everyone they don't know what defines an assault rifle. I told him some of the distinguishing characteristics that typically define an assault rifle.

    What doesn't keep coming up is the responses one might expect from some of the prudent points made that Cletus wishes to dodge because he either doesn't understand what has been presented to him or he simply has no answer for.

    Here's a lower level thinking stumper: how many bullets did Lanza fire that infamous day with his (hyuk hyuk) assault rifle?

    Stumper number two which requires slightly above average thinking ability: would it have been possible for Lanza to fire that many shots with a shotgun or hunting rifle and a smaller magazine.


    Answer #1: I don't know, nearly all evidence has been suppressed. Video surveillance hasn't been released, not even a still to prove Lanza did it. Early reports stated multiple shooters, now we are told to believe this 115lb weakling did this.

    Answer #2: Probably. However this line of thinking is that 20 deaths instead of 26 is somehow preferred.

    Question back at you. If the teachers were trained and armed how many people would this alleged shooter(s) have killed? 26? More? Less?
  • chadwick said:

    Every American has the right to shoot first and ask questions later.

    I think that should do it.
    ................

    nicely done, blue&white. you'll be taken seriously from here on out. thank you for your time & wonderful & clear thoughtout bull manure
    No problem. In a forum where vitriolic jabs and nastiness are the norm, I'm not particularly concerned whether I've earned your seal of approval or not. From an outsider's perspective, America's gun issue is absolutely absurd and it certainly doesn't seem like many people are really willing to entertain an open dialogue, even on these forums.

  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    unsung said:


    Really?

    Your argument has come down to a pistol grip?

    This thread has become humorous.
    Come on your bud. You know Military Style Assault Weapon :D is much more effective (speed accuracy) than typical long gun and even a pistol.
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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Actually a pistol would be ideal for speed and close quarters accuracy.

    (Temp bad guy role) If I had to plan an attack like this I would use a pistol, however I'm not a bad guy and of course I'm not going to do anything bad.

    So I'm not entirely convinced that the report is entirely accurate.
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