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Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,929
edited August 2014 in The Porch
Listen to Release from Verona 2006. And the to Release from Stockholm 2014.

I'm a bit worried actually. Everything seems _much_ more strained lately - noticed it during the 2x 2013 boots I got. Even on the first couple of songs, and the last encores are pretty rough voice-wise even on songs that always have sounded great like Crazy Mary, Indifference etc. Now, even at the start of the show you get the out of breath, squeaking, voice disappearing etc.

Tired subject, I know. But yeah, his voice are starting to get really rough. And you can defend it to some degree with the shows being longer etc. But still, maybe time for an all acoustic Pearl Jam tour... :)
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    pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,883
    8 years is a long time. Ed's voice was also a lot different in 1998 vs 2006. Still think it sounds good and does most of the time. Not a lot of singers can make it through a 3 hour show.
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    GmoneyGmoney Posts: 1,618
    Yea... It's all about vocal rest... certain shows where he's had a few days off he sounds great, back to back shows sound rough. I imagine if we heard him sing today, he'd blow us away.
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    tino_11tino_11 Posts: 1,940
    I honestly thought he sounded better in the latest euro tour compared to Euro 2012. Manchester 2 in 2012 was the worst I've heard him.

    But in all the three shows I saw this time, I thought he sounded great! Looking forward to hearing the boots.
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    narnianarnia Posts: 635
    He was also battling a cold first part of the tour 2013. It's not surprising his voice is changing over the years though, but I still think it's terrific.

    I think he stopped smoking (he's been singing "think I'll throw these smokes away" in "Down"), and that's gotta help.
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    JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,875
    narnia said:



    I think he stopped smoking (he's been singing "think I'll throw these smokes away" in "Down"), and that's gotta help.

    I soooooo hope you are right about this.

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    jumbojetjumbojet Posts: 1,484
    edited August 2014
    tino_11 said:

    I honestly thought he sounded better in the latest euro tour compared to Euro 2012. Manchester 2 in 2012 was the worst I've heard him.

    Agree with this. Not only Eddie but all of them seem to be in much better shape in 2013-2014, compared to prior few years.
    Don't know with Stokholm Release but Milan's Release was face-melting, this year.
    Also Release is a difficult song to perform live, IMO. I think the Verona-06 version the OP is talking about, also isn't that smooth and putting some strain on Eddie, at that time.
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    Versus13Versus13 Vancouver, BC Posts: 191
    To me, Eddie, Stone, Mike, Jeff, Matt and Boom are improving and improving with age, much like a good wine
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    GeoScottGeoScott South Carolina Posts: 151
    Probably all of that screaming in "Blood" and "Save You" during the '03 tour
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    High Fidelity 2000High Fidelity 2000 New Mexico USA Posts: 4,435
    Ed's voice was WAY rougher in 2008-2012. Last year it was pretty good. Still some straining but much less of the breathy "H" sounds in the middle of words and he doesn't do the "bird howl" at the end of lines. I'm willing to bet a vocal coach or someone told him that was bad if he's trying to save his voice. Think he cut down on cigarettes for sure (amazing how that works huh?). Haven't heard any of the boots from this year. But 2013 was a huge improvement over the past few years.
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    pdalowskypdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 14,694
    If he continues to sound anywhere near as good as he has these last few years I wont be worrying at all
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    ChrisileinChrisilein Vienna/Austria Posts: 3,877
    pdalowsky said:

    If he continues to sound anywhere near as good as he has these last few years I wont be worrying at all

    imo his voice sounded much better this euro tour compared to 2008 - 2012!
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    veddertownveddertown Scotland Posts: 5,260
    I thought he sounded ok in 2012 but was pretty rough on the Backspacer tour. He still sounds good now although I'd say he is a pale shadow of the singer he was from 98-05.
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    PeArLgOoNeRPeArLgOoNeR Posts: 1,247
    I can't figure out a pattern as to when he sounds great and when he sounds strained.. Berlin 2 2012 was unbelievable and much better than night 1..
    This year I've heard Dam 1+2, Vienna and Berlin.. Vienna is easily the best vocal performance and that came with a bit of rest prior..

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    vant0037vant0037 Posts: 6,071
    tino_11 said:

    I honestly thought he sounded better in the latest euro tour compared to Euro 2012. Manchester 2 in 2012 was the worst I've heard him.

    But in all the three shows I saw this time, I thought he sounded great! Looking forward to hearing the boots.

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    PeArLgOoNeR said:

    I can't figure out a pattern as to when he sounds great and when he sounds strained.. Berlin 2 2012 was unbelievable and much better than night 1..
    This year I've heard Dam 1+2, Vienna and Berlin.. Vienna is easily the best vocal performance and that came with a bit of rest prior..

    Im in the same boat. I can't figure it out. I do though 12-13 were much better on the whole than 09 as far as eds vocals.
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    i_lov_iti_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
    edited August 2014
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    Listen to Release from Verona 2006. And the to Release from Stockholm 2014.

    I'm a bit worried actually. Everything seems _much_ more strained lately - noticed it during the 2x 2013 boots I got. Even on the first couple of songs, and the last encores are pretty rough voice-wise even on songs that always have sounded great like Crazy Mary, Indifference etc. Now, even at the start of the show you get the out of breath, squeaking, voice disappearing etc.

    Tired subject, I know. But yeah, his voice are starting to get really rough. And you can defend it to some degree with the shows being longer etc. But still, maybe time for an all acoustic Pearl Jam tour... :)

    I do agree with you I think Ed's voice is not as Good as it was in 2006 but I have to admit it has improved since say 2009...and after listening to a couple of 2013 US shows and the Australian BDO shows it was Good :)

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    GardenpartyGardenparty Posts: 1,908
    its natural. dudes pushing 50 (or is he 50 already).
    nows the time for PJ to chill it out a bit and find songs that fit his current voice.
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    ChadsStillAliveChadsStillAlive Indianapolis Posts: 450
    Ed's a surfer and an extremist (I can relate), so he tends to push himself to and beyond his limits, including his vocals. This has provided both great and shaky moments throughout PJ's history. I personally love his voice on the '06 tour. While I love the '03 tour and the Live at the Garden DVD, he sings off-key for A LOT of that show. But if you listen to the Mansfield III acoustic set, he sounds fantastic. So it varies, sometimes within a period of days. '09 was very rough. Your favorite Ed vocal era really depends on what you're looking for. The songs in the lower register obviously suit him better these days, while he of course has never and will never match his growls and screams from '91-'94. I agree with the previous poster that they really need to start writing songs that match his new range and stop trying to over-reach. While Infallible is great on record, he just can't do that live anymore. The same goes for some of his sometimes strange live habits, which I saw mentioned a few times in this thread. You don't have to kill yourself to do the "Do the Evolution" screams justice, dude.

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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,513
    He doesn't sound the same but he sounds great. I have been pretty thrilled with every show I've been to, and have enjoyed many recent boots, so it couldn't be that bad. ;)
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    DazzlerDazzler Grimsby, UK Posts: 109
    Release was a struggle on the Stockholm boot, and there were many vocal issues on the Amsterdam night 2 boot. Vienna seems to be stronger, and many of the 2013 boots were good vocally (just many forgotten lyrics - usually on new songs). I was at the Milton Keynes show and I only noticed an issue with Nothingman (song 3 - although the boot may highlight others). It is worrying to a certain extent, as he seemed unable to control his voice in the higher registers on this European tour - listen to Last Kiss in Oslo (song 3 again!!)
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    HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,418
    I think he sounded better last year than the last time I saw them in 08. The strain is definitely there, but the dude's on the verge of 50 and still sounds way better than my non-smoking ass at 37.
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,929
    Gardenparty said:

    its natural. dudes pushing 50 (or is he 50 already).
    nows the time for PJ to chill it out a bit and find songs that fit his current voice.

    Riot Act was a great step in that regard. Then they just had to Comatose their way back to the punk and squeeling... :)
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    ForceofNature101ForceofNature101 Posts: 1,190
    Honestly I think he sounds great, I love his vocal style of the 2013/2014 shows in general

    I am not just saying that either, I would have no problem admitting if he sounded bad. But he doesn't ;)
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    YLed2YLed2 Des Moines, IA Posts: 5,534
    What's great about Ed's voice is that is has changed over time, and there is a certain "sound" of his voice in each era. You can distinctly tell what year or time period it is when you hear his voice on a boot. I like the evolution and his voice is still phenomenal.

    My favorite Ed voice is No Code / Yield era.
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    yieldtrack11yieldtrack11 Posts: 163
    Charlottesville, Va (October 29, 2013) is the best I've heard him in years. Get that boot.
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    hrd2imgnhrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,864
    a lot more cracking, high pitched squeels at times, and way way too much multi-syllable singing of single syllable words. The become Th---ah. I hate when he pulls out blood it just trashes his voice the rest of the night sometimes. I still love his voice and hope the smoking rumor is true, I think that has take a tremendous toll on his singing and stamina
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    EnterThanmanEnterThanman London, ON Posts: 1,057
    edited August 2014
    veddertown said:

    I thought he sounded ok in 2012 but was pretty rough on the Backspacer tour. He still sounds good now although I'd say he is a pale shadow of the singer he was from 98-05.

    91-05 ;). I honestly never notice any vocal issues during the shows, so I'm not worried at all.

    For the smoking rumours, I thought I'd read that he quit, but it was actually that he just doesn't do it all the time:

    http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/q-a-eddie-vedder-on-pearl-jams-new-lp-and-hate-watching-the-vmas-20130927

    He doesn't smoke during Even Flow anymore so that has to say something.

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    tremorman10tremorman10 Posts: 59
    It sounds great to me still. i know its not 1994 but it has its own greatness. The end of Release can get off a bit and infallible. maybe a few others but if you mess up 2 or 3 hell you got 28 other songs to make up for it.
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    i_lov_iti_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
    hrd2imgn said:

    a lot more cracking, high pitched squeels at times, and way way too much multi-syllable singing of single syllable words. The become Th---ah. I hate when he pulls out blood it just trashes his voice the rest of the night sometimes. I still love his voice and hope the smoking rumor is true, I think that has take a tremendous toll on his singing and stamina

    Yeah I've heard that before about the Multi-Syllable singing on Single-Syllable words and I agree...The recent Bootlegs I've listened to the 2013 US Tour and the Australian BDO shows there was less of it which is good :)
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    DazzlerDazzler Grimsby, UK Posts: 109
    Just listened to the SiriusXM version of Werchter Festival and Ed's voice held up really well and was strong throughout. None of the scratchiness that was noticed in Amsterdam 2 and Oslo. I guess he wasn't in perfect health after his leg injury and his voice improved across the tour.
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