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    edited August 2014
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  • BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    edited August 2014
    so it looks like the Mods finally closed the "Imagine that" thread....

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    rafie said:

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    After giving it some thought, i can say with 100% certainty that at least two of these four pictures have nothing to do with this conflict (i also highly doubt that the other two pics have anything to do with this conflict, but can not prove it with 100% certainty). Here is my proof: 1) the picture of a girl in a headlock - the soldier is wearing a uniform of the israeli border guard. No such soldiers were deployed in gaza during this conflict.
    2) the picture of the woman being approached by jews - there have not been any civilian jews in gaza since 2005.

    Edit: after looking closely, i can prove that another one of these pictures was not taken during this conflict: 3) the picture of the woman being lifted by a group of soldiers - at least two of the soldiers are wearing winter coats. There is NO WAY that a soldier would be wearing a winter coat during the israeli summer. Trust me on this.

    This was my point about context. There are absolutely terrible things happening in gaza. To post pictures that have nothing to do with the conflict is horrible misdirection (and if you ask me, hurts your cause...).
    Sharp eye.I think its important to question and look at all images posted.In this Media age it's all about perception and sometimes the truth gets kicked aside.Both sides are guilty of manipulating the media/Social media to there respective benefit.
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    lolobugg said:

    so it looks like the Mods finally closed the "Imagine that" thread....

    needed it. this one prob too... gaza bombed back to the stone ages and all people can do is bicker about dumb shit.
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    rafie said:

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    After giving it some thought, i can say with 100% certainty that at least two of these four pictures have nothing to do with this conflict (i also highly doubt that the other two pics have anything to do with this conflict, but can not prove it with 100% certainty). Here is my proof: 1) the picture of a girl in a headlock - the soldier is wearing a uniform of the israeli border guard. No such soldiers were deployed in gaza during this conflict.
    2) the picture of the woman being approached by jews - there have not been any civilian jews in gaza since 2005.

    Edit: after looking closely, i can prove that another one of these pictures was not taken during this conflict: 3) the picture of the woman being lifted by a group of soldiers - at least two of the soldiers are wearing winter coats. There is NO WAY that a soldier would be wearing a winter coat during the israeli summer. Trust me on this.

    This was my point about context. There are absolutely terrible things happening in gaza. To post pictures that have nothing to do with the conflict is horrible misdirection (and if you ask me, hurts your cause...).
    Rafie, in my post I posted that 2 of the pics aren't in gaza, but that doesn't mean they didn't happen or aren't appalling. It's everyday life in Palestine.
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    This is def Gaza

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    Here's a video in Hebron, Look at the balls the old man has to stand up to the idf.


    http://mondoweiss.net/2014/08/israeli-palestinian-protester.html?utm_source=Mondoweiss+List&utm_campaign=0a067b9e59-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_b86bace129-0a067b9e59-398430449
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    can we agree on a 24 hour cease picture agreement? lets say 3pm eastern cell phone time today until 3pm eastern cellphone time tomrw? you have 10 minutes to post away.
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    how many bombs equal the effect of a nuclear bomb? if hypothetically you could add them up?
  • Toronto, ON Posts: 9,374
    I posted this a few days back and don't recall seeing an answer. Does anyone have any suggestions as to why the ten-year truce conditions were delivered as opposed to a proposal for independence?
    benjs said:

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    I disagree with what they've asked for. Israel - who allowed for the death of over 1,500 human beings in the name of the security of their citizens - are incapable based on their own vendetta against Hamas of opening the border crossings to commerce and people. The same logic applies as well in regards to the withdrawal of Israeli tanks. Traffic in and out would quickly become just as restricted as it is now, and all of a sudden, things would be back right now because Hamas will not cease the resistance until the Israeli presence in Palestinian life is missing, and Israeli presence in Palestinian life will not go anywhere until Hamas ceases to resist.

    Asking for the right to govern Gaza and the West Bank independently, on the other hand, has similar results with some notable exceptions:
    -Freeing all the prisoners: this would be a matter of contention. If Palestine is to exist as a nation, they would have to possess a prison: the prisoners could be transferred to Palestinian prisons run with international assistance.
    -Lifting the siege and opening the border crossings to commerce and people: this could only happen with international supervision.
    -Israeli settlements would have to be dismounted and removed from Gaza and the West Bank
    -International accountability for terrorist attacks would reside solely with Hamas. Liability would be shifted from Israel to the Palestinian Unity government in its entirety.

    Any ideas as to why it was decided to ask for the former and not the latter?
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    http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/UN-names-three-experts-to-Gaza-investigation-commission-370772

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/11/amal-alamuddin-george-clooney-fiancee-gaza-inquiry

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  • St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,118
    JC29856 said:

    can we agree on a 24 hour cease picture agreement? lets say 3pm eastern cell phone time today until 3pm eastern cellphone time tomrw? you have 10 minutes to post away.

    no.
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    gimmesometruth27 said:

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    no.
    Thanks Rod
  • St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,118
    badbrains said:

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    Thanks Rod
    seriously, why?

    just look away. don't keep the rest of us from viewing, sharing, and commenting on photos. where words fail, as they normally do, photos don't.
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    Byrnzie said:

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    My pleasure. :D

    You don't need friends like that.

    I came very close to deleting someone on my FB over it too. I've known him a long time, but he spouts a lot of utter shite on this issue, and he's ended up making a fool of himself - with my help - on a couple of occasions now.
    But he's actually not as bad as that 'friend' of yours.
    perhaps a bit smug of me, but right before you started posting B , I suggest Gimme introduce the two of you.

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    Democrats republicans independents grown men women of congress, former presidents future presidents current president....all suck Israeli dick!


    http://www.timesofisrael.com/hillary-clinton-blasts-unfair-world-reaction-over-gaza-cites-anti-semitism-as-factor/
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    Ok, I take it the cease pictures agreement is over, ah which side fucked it up this time?
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