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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Happy (belated?) birthday!

    My co-worker/buddy did a 35-mile two day hike on Mt. Baldy this weekend. In the rain! Definitely could use it - we got some down here Saturday evening and Sunday morning - but damn, the damage it did up there.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,668
    hedonist said:

    Happy (belated?) birthday!

    My co-worker/buddy did a 35-mile two day hike on Mt. Baldy this weekend. In the rain! Definitely could use it - we got some down here Saturday evening and Sunday morning - but damn, the damage it did up there.

    (mañana , thanks :-) )

    That's dedication to hiking!

    Almost said, "Good to hear you're getting a little precip. as well" but when it causes havoc, maybe not such good timing. Erosion, I'm guessing?

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Aw! You share a birthday with my late but beloved uncle. A good day to be born, it seems!

    Yeah, this dude also did a weekend hike through the Grand Canyon recently. Oh to be thirty again :D

    Where we are (lovely flatlands of West Hollywood), it was really nice to get, though muggy as hell. But the mudslides in the mountains were caused by this fucking drought! Nothing to anchor all that water.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,668
    A friend of mine sent me this article- no link so here it is:

    There's another side effect of the drought in California that many people
    haven't yet considered: Removing all that ground water is causing
    *earthquakes* as the ground caves in due to unprecedented water extraction:


    Originally published August 18 2014 How California's extreme drought will
    lead to a wave of earthquakesby Ethan A. Huff, staff writer

    (NaturalNews) With about 60 percent of the state now limping through the
    worst categorical level of drought on record, California faces an
    unprecedented water crisis that, besides triggering shortages, stands to
    greatly influence the availability of fresh produce nationwide. And as far
    as its own residents and the residents of nearby states are concerned,
    there is an additional threat also waiting in the wings: the increased
    likelihood of earthquakes.

    A new study published in the journal *Nature* raises some serious questions
    about the stability of California now that underground aquifers are
    plunging to record lows. All throughout the Central Valley, which grows
    most of the nation's lettuce, almonds and other produce, more water is
    being pumped out of the ground than is being put back in, a phenomenon that
    researchers say is causing the ground to shift.

    According to a team of geologists led by Colin B. Amos from Western
    Washington University, the subterranean landscape beneath the earth, also
    known as the lithosphere, is literally separating from the land on top
    throughout California. The California Coast Ranges, the Tehachapi
    Mountains, and the southern Sierra Nevada, says *TakePart*'s Chris Clarke,
    are rising by as much as three millimeters per year, or roughly an inch
    every 10 years.

    A series of 500 GPS recorders carefully placed throughout the Central
    Valley and its surrounding mountains revealed that the water table
    throughout the area is rapidly dwindling. This means that the 176
    billion-ton water load that
    normally holds down the lithosphere is becoming increasingly lighter,
    resulting in a land separation that, historically speaking, has made the
    ground more prone to seismic activity.

    "Groundwater pumping unburdens the lithosphere," said William Hammond, a
    geologist at the University of Nevada and co-author of the study, as quoted
    by *TakePart*. "When you pump that much groundwater, the load gets taken
    away and the landscape essentially bounces up. The Sierra Nevada is rising
    more quickly as a result of groundwater pumping in the Great Valley."

    2011 earthquake in Spain caused by water overdrafts, say scientists Back in
    2011, a 5.2-magnitude earthquake that rocked Lorca, Spain, killing 10
    people and causing extensive infrastructure damage, was found to have been
    caused by the overdraft of water from local aquifers. A cohort of
    researchers determined that, based on the fault slip pattern and movement
    of land at the surface, changes in aquifer volumes were the most likely
    cause of the quake.

    "The area of fault slip correlates well with the pattern of positive
    Coulomb stress change that we calculate to result from the extraction of
    groundwater in a nearby basin aquifer," wrote the authors of a study
    published in the journal *Nature Geoscience*. "Our results imply that
    anthropogenic activities could influence how and when earthquakes
    occur."

    In the Central Valley, a similar phenomenon has been documented in relation
    to when the most water is drawn from underground aquifers to nourish crops.
    In the late summer and early fall, according to geologists, the Parkfield
    section of the infamous San Andreas Fault system typically experiences
    increased seismic activity exceeding 1.25 magnitude or higher, which is
    also the time when the most water is drawn.

    "That seasonal change means loading and unloading on the lithosphere,"
    added Hammond. "The earth flexes up and down, and small earthquakes seem to
    respond to that."

    *Sources for this article include:*

    http://www.takepart.com



    http://www.nature.com


    http://www.bbc.com

    http://science.naturalnews.com
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    look up 'honeybees or beekeepers of california drought'

    you're welcome
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,756
    chadwick said:

    look up 'honeybees or beekeepers of california drought'

    you're welcome

    This bee thing is really bad. I wish more attention were being paid to it.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    PJ_Soul said:

    chadwick said:

    look up 'honeybees or beekeepers of california drought'

    you're welcome

    This bee thing is really bad. I wish more attention were being paid to it.
    i am pretty certain your average asshole or person doesn't give a shit nor understands a damn thing about honeybees or even anything outside their silly shit
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,756
    chadwick said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    chadwick said:

    look up 'honeybees or beekeepers of california drought'

    you're welcome

    This bee thing is really bad. I wish more attention were being paid to it.
    i am pretty certain your average asshole or person doesn't give a shit nor understands a damn thing about honeybees or even anything outside their silly shit
    If the media started covering it and outlining just what horrors a lack of them entails a lot more people would be engaged.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • lazloblue
    lazloblue Houston Posts: 738
    Any one ever see Bee Movie? super cheeze, but the point of loosing the honey bees was made.
    Lollapalooza 92, Alpine Valley 11, De Luna 12, Wrigley/Pittsburgh/Dallas/OKC 13, Tulsa/Denver 14, Global 15, Wrigley 1/2 16
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,668
    Not to diminish the importance of honey bees to our current means of existence, but I think it is worth noting that honey bees are not native to north America and that indigenous people got along just fine without them.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    So do we dump the bucket on our head or no?
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,668
    unsung said:

    So do we dump the bucket on our head or no?

    Sure! Make a bucket full of origami cubes out of recycled white paper to dump on our heads!

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    It's about the dumbest thing I've seen, just donate the money.
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    unsung said:

    It's about the dumbest thing I've seen, just donate the money.

    i can't say im a fan of it either. frickin weird stuff
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    I appreciate the efforts, with donations (but SO MUCH WATER has been wasted/dumped).

    A lot of what I've seen though seems more about ego, the ever-present "look at me!" than the intent behind it. Not saying all have this mindset, and the creativity of some has been entertaining...but it's almost like an excuse to shine the spotlight on oneself.

    ALS is all of a sudden the sweetheart disease? "Trending"? Right.

    MS, Parkinson's, cancer, arthritis...why not these diseases too?

    (yeah, feeling just a bit cynical this morning. I hate bandwagons :D)
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    edited August 2014
    somene might should say, "stick the bucket of ice water up your ass" as they throw it across the room. of course they donated some $$$

    or donated buckets of ice water to california or other drought having places

    the vince mcmahon clip was all about vince mcmahon
    Post edited by chadwick on
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    I dig Vince.

    And I do hope all have donated - it seems so, or at least a huge influx has poured in from most.

    It's heartening, and shows how much is available to give. Shit, just look at those kickstarter things.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,668
    hedonist said:

    I dig Vince.

    And I do hope all have donated - it seems so, or at least a huge influx has poured in from most.

    It's heartening, and shows how much is available to give. Shit, just look at those kickstarter things.

    Yes, giving a what we can to help fight this and other diseases is important.

    It would also be encouraging to see more effort put into preventing disease- cancers caused by all the chemicals we dump into our bodies and our environment, diseases take hold due to stress, etc.

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,770
    Saw that two dudes in Cali started dump a bucket of dirt instead but it begs the ? Now that you have dirt all over you won't you need water to wash it off >>>>>>dump shredded paper instead ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Just donate instead. If you so desire. Nothing like some peer pressure for a good cause.