what do you think of America's leadership sense obama got elected ?

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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,600
    I think it is wishful thinking to say the Republicans will implode. For all the talk of their supposed dire straights, they are in position to make huge gains in the Fall.
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  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    JimmyV said:

    I think it is wishful thinking to say the Republicans will implode. For all the talk of their supposed dire straights, they are in position to make huge gains in the Fall.

    Huge gains with who, old white men? Because that's the only group they actually care to help.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,600

    JimmyV said:

    I think it is wishful thinking to say the Republicans will implode. For all the talk of their supposed dire straights, they are in position to make huge gains in the Fall.

    Huge gains with who, old white men? Because that's the only group they actually care to help.
    Let's wait and see what the House and Senate look like the morning after this upcoming election. They are going to retain control of the House and are poised to take the Senate. I would have a hard time labeling any party that wins total control of Congress as being about to implode.

    Don't get me wrong, I think they absolutely deserve to implode. I'm just hearing that tossed around often but not seeing it with my own eyes. Of course, I'm in Massachusetts and aside from Mitt we don't really have Republicans here. :-)

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  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    In NYS, the republicans have imploded. Dems now have power of the Senate and the House, which is NOT the way it's supposed to be. But the republicans are doing this to themselves. The point of gov't is the checking and balancing of both parties to provide democracy.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    JimmyV said:

    I think it is wishful thinking to say the Republicans will implode. For all the talk of their supposed dire straights, they are in position to make huge gains in the Fall.

    agree, just wait and see the topic anger when the rebubs have control again...it's going to be crazy here.

    Godfather.

  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    You people realize that this whole "talk" about either party, particularly upcoming elections, that it's nothing but media speculation used to distract the American Public from REAL ISSUES, don't you? Wake up, shut off the television and live, for Bob's sake.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487


    do you have any evidence of this?

    the republican'ts have managed to alienate every single voting group that they would need to carry in order to win.

    here is a general list of people republicans have alienated.

    union workers
    latinos
    gays
    african americans
    the poor
    WOMEN
    muslims, or religious folk who identify as anything other than "christian"
    scientists
    people younger than age 50
    teachers
    service industry workers
    environmentalists
    just to name a few.

    in my mind, by looking at this list, the only people that the republicans have in the bag are rich, old, white men, and people in the above groups who are stupid enough to vote against their own interests.

    This is EXACTLY the reason the republican party will self-implode.

    Not going to happen, the Democrats keep breathing life into them.
  • i_lov_it
    i_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
    The Politicians are all Puppets anyway.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,314
    Republicans have a secret weapon in the future. Mexican George Bush.

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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    You people realize that this whole "talk" about either party, particularly upcoming elections, that it's nothing but media speculation used to distract the American Public from REAL ISSUES, don't you? Wake up, shut off the television and live, for Bob's sake.

    I believe that, every news station has it's own spin but non the less I doubt I'll vote dem or repub, I'd rather vote for Joe Walsh than the asshats I've seen in the media.


    Godfather.

  • mikepegg44
    mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353

    You people realize that this whole "talk" about either party, particularly upcoming elections, that it's nothing but media speculation used to distract the American Public from REAL ISSUES, don't you? Wake up, shut off the television and live, for Bob's sake.

    I believe that, every news station has it's own spin but non the less I doubt I'll vote dem or repub, I'd rather vote for Joe Walsh than the asshats I've seen in the media.


    Godfather.

    he does have a Maserati that does 185...probably a better reason to vote for him than the ones most people choose for actual candidates.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,161

    You people realize that this whole "talk" about either party, particularly upcoming elections, that it's nothing but media speculation used to distract the American Public from REAL ISSUES, don't you? Wake up, shut off the television and live, for Bob's sake.

    I believe that, every news station has it's own spin but non the less I doubt I'll vote dem or repub, I'd rather vote for Joe Walsh than the asshats I've seen in the media.


    Godfather.

    he does have a Maserati that does 185...probably a better reason to vote for him than the ones most people choose for actual candidates.
    also, he lost his license, now he don't drive. AND he goes to parties sometimes until four, and he can't leave because he can't find the door.

    if i had to choose between cat scratch fever man and this guy, this guy all the way!!!
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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697

    You people realize that this whole "talk" about either party, particularly upcoming elections, that it's nothing but media speculation used to distract the American Public from REAL ISSUES, don't you? Wake up, shut off the television and live, for Bob's sake.

    I believe that, every news station has it's own spin but non the less I doubt I'll vote dem or repub, I'd rather vote for Joe Walsh than the asshats I've seen in the media.


    Godfather.

    he does have a Maserati that does 185...probably a better reason to vote for him than the ones most people choose for actual candidates.
    also, he lost his license, now he don't drive. AND he goes to parties sometimes until four, and he can't leave because he can't find the door.

    if i had to choose between cat scratch fever man and this guy, this guy all the way!!!
    Life has been good to him .....so far
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    so then it's settled...Joe Walsh for president.

    Godfather.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,502
    http://www.philly.com/philly/columnists/michael_smerconish/20140803_The_Pulse__In_a_world_of_trouble__support_for_Obama_policies.html

    Michael Smerconish, Inquirer Columnist
    Posted: Sunday, August 3, 2014, 1:09 AM
    A passenger plane presumably shot down by pro-Russian separatists as part of the crisis in Ukraine kills 298 civilians. Israel moves into Gaza to stop rocket launches and the result is more than 1,300 Palestinians and more than 50 Israeli soldiers dead.

    That's just for starters.

    Civil war rages in Iraq, pitting Sunni against Shiite, and Sunni-affiliated ISIS threatens the stability of the Iraq government. The civil war in Syria is estimated to have taken 170,000 lives. Meanwhile, Iran proceeds with its nuclear program. Libyan unrest has led the United States to evacuate its embassy in Tripoli.

    At home, an estimated 60,000 unaccompanied minors may arrive in the United States from Central American countries by year's end.

    So how is President Obama doing on foreign policy?

    Not so well, according to the latest polls. In a recent survey by the New York Times and CBS News, 58 percent of respondents disapprove of the way Obama is handling world affairs, the highest such number of his presidency. Only 36 percent said they approve.

    And that appraisal is no outlier. In June, a similar survey from NBC and the Wall Street Journal had the same result. No wonder, then, that critics of the president, like Sen. Lindsey Graham (R., S.C.), are hammering the administration on foreign policy, seemingly in line with popular sentiment. On Meet the Press, Graham said of Secretary of State John Kerry and the president:

    "It scares me that he [Kerry] believes the world is in such good shape. America is the glue that holds the free world together. Leading from behind is not working. The world is adrift. And President Obama has become the king of indecision. His policies are failing across the globe, and they will come here soon."

    But delve into the numbers and a more complicated picture emerges - one in which Americans are dissatisfied with the president but approving of his individual decisions. Consider this from the Times/CBS poll:

    When asked if they support the president's recent decision to send 300 military advisers to Iraq, 51 percent said yes.

    When asked if they support the use of drones in Iraq, 56 percent said yes.

    A little more than half of voters were in favor of working with Iran in a limited capacity to try to resolve the situation in Iraq.

    Each of those three foreign-policy views is in line with what the administration is considering or actually doing.

    Here's a similar finding: When Politico surveyed voters in 2014 battleground areas, they found that more than three-quarters were in support of the president's plans to withdraw all troops from Afghanistan by the end of 2016. And, 44 percent of likely voters favor less involvement in Iraq's civil war, vs. 19 percent who favor more involvement. That's something else he is doing.

    Although taken just before the downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17, the Politico poll also evidenced agreement with Obama's handling of U.S. efforts to counter Russian aggression in Ukraine.

    Shortly after the Flight 17 crash, CNN and ORC International posed a survey with questions concerning how the United States should respond if pro-Russian separatists fired the missile at the aircraft. An overwhelming majority opted for stricter economic and diplomatic sanctions, preceding Obama's decision this past Tuesday.

    The president's management of the crisis in the Middle East is just another illustration of public approval of his policies.

    Despite apprehension around the globe regarding the surge of Palestinian civilian casualties, both Kerry and Obama have reaffirmed Israel's right to defend itself. Data collected from pollsters during the Gaza war, including the Pew Research Center and Gallup, suggest that among those who have followed the situation closely, 71 percent believe Israel's military action to be justified. Moreover, the percentage of those who believe Hamas is to blame is double that of those who hold Israel responsible for the current violence.

    One final paradox: Bowe Bergdahl. A survey conducted by the Pew Research Center and USA Today in June found that while 43 percent believe the exchange of five Taliban prisoners for Bergdahl was a mistake by the Obama administration, 56 percent said the United States has a responsibility to do all it can to secure the return of a captive U.S. soldier, regardless of the circumstances.

    What does it all mean? Probably that Americans are understandably concerned about the confluence of so many trouble spots around the globe and view the buck as stopping with Obama, even though they concur with his reluctance to get us directly involved militarily in any more foreign entanglements. Sanctions? Fine. Troops? No way.

    And maybe "approval/disapproval" is a misleading way to gauge public sentiment. Obama's approval might be just 40 percent, but maybe some of the 60 percent want him to be more aggressive, while others want him to be less so.

    I suppose it's all a reflection of the fact that it is easier to be against something than to articulate an alternate approach, especially in these times.

    Michael Smerconish can be heard from 9 a.m. to noon on Sirius XM's POTUS Channel 124 and seen hosting "Smerconish" at 9 a.m. Saturdays on CNN.
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  • mookeywrench
    mookeywrench Posts: 6,073
    Leadership?...
    The military needs leadership; politics needs representation. The American public are the leaders.

    Our Government is only a tool for achieving the common needs of the American public, so many infer and imply that it's some entity that reigns above them.

    Any American should be proud that the President can hold a lack of leadership, especially those who are in favor of smaller government. That only exemplifies the limited powers of the President.

    Hold some personal accountability, and be in charge of your own well-being.

    Ask not what your country can do for you and ask not what you can do for your country. Only ask what you and your fellow Americans can achieve through the use of Government.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    Leadership?...
    The military needs leadership; politics needs representation. The American public are the leaders.

    Our Government is only a tool for achieving the common needs of the American public, so many infer and imply that it's some entity that reigns above them.

    Any American should be proud that the President can hold a lack of leadership, especially those who are in favor of smaller government. That only exemplifies the limited powers of the President.

    Hold some personal accountability, and be in charge of your own well-being.

    Ask not what your country can do for you and ask not what you can do for your country. Only ask what you and your fellow Americans can achieve through the use of Government.

    I hear ya...but obama seems to think otherwise.

    Godfather.

  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    this was facebook post I copied....just cuz.

    Godfather.


    Everyone is up in arms about this whole letting everyone across the boarder thing going, as they should be. But I am about to open your eyes on why this is happening and when you understand it you will be even more pissed.

    Let's start with President Obama. As of lately most of his own party hates him and has not been on board with anything that his has been doing. He had broken the law many times and continues to break the law still. So why hasn't he been impeached. It's simple, no one wants Joe Biden as president.

    Also remember how he and almost all democrats were against the whole voter ID laws that were trying to get pushed. I mean I have to show my ID to do anything else but when it comes to getting benefits for free I don't have to have an ID to vote for someone who is going to give me free stuff.

    Now we know why President Obama won't be impeached, and that he and his democratic associates fought against the voter ID laws, we can understand why he is letting every illegal in to this country. But let's hold off on that for a second.

    Let's look at where these illegals are being shipped to. They are being shipped to either republican controlled states or states that barely republican controlled states. Now let's wrap this up in a bow of tyranny for you.

    President Obama is has been doing what ever he wants because he knows he can't get impeached or reelected and him and his party went against the voter ID laws so that he could bring illegals in the the United States and ship them to the places that they need democratic control over because why? Because these illegals don't need an ID to vote the the people who are going to continue to bankrupt this country by giving the illegals free stuff therefor continuing the circle of corruption.

    Mark my words, if this continues we will have another democrat in the presidents office. Not because the American people voted them there, but because the illegals did.
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,305
    well, your original poll question makes no grammatical sense. Big surprise.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • Didn't read through the comments, but my opinion is yeah, he is not the greatest President, but Congress has been fucking terrible and they and him are not working together. I am just glad he had Osama killed (I know he didn't do it personally, but he gave the order) and he pulled most troops out of Iraq and ended a stupid war that was a waste of American lives.
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