what do you think of America's leadership sense obama got elected ?
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unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487Ok, well that's not staying out. We've been involved in almost every conflict.0
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"If Nero fiddled while Rome burned, then Obama is dining out, golfing, and raising money while the world collapses."
take a muslim over what ?
Godfather.
"I believe that doubting is the first step to rational knowledge. Not doubting implies submission, which is dangerous."
ummmm sounds about right to me.
Godfather.
who are you quoting? you are a fucking trip, sir.for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
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.....yes, dang it and I can't remember who said both of these quotes but the one about boubt was quoted by an artist.chadwick said:"If Nero fiddled while Rome burned, then Obama is dining out, golfing, and raising money while the world collapses."
take a muslim over what ?
Godfather.
"I believe that doubting is the first step to rational knowledge. Not doubting implies submission, which is dangerous."
ummmm sounds about right to me.
Godfather.
who are you quoting? you are a fucking trip, sir.
Godfather.
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Joan Fontcuberta. An interesting thought. Goes right along with the concept of critical thinking.Godfather. said:
.....yes, dang it and I can't remember who said both of these quotes but the one about boubt was quoted by an artist.chadwick said:"If Nero fiddled while Rome burned, then Obama is dining out, golfing, and raising money while the world collapses."
take a muslim over what ?
Godfather.
"I believe that doubting is the first step to rational knowledge. Not doubting implies submission, which is dangerous."
ummmm sounds about right to me.
Godfather.
who are you quoting? you are a fucking trip, sir.
Godfather.
"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
I'm with this guy. I did not vote, because it's a trap.gimmesometruth27 said:i have no idea what you are asking here.
since obama got elected our federal leadership has disappeared because the republicans will not work with him. obama says "the sky is blue" and they say "we aren't sure but instead of looking into it and coming to a consensus, we are going to sue your muslim ass."0 -
unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
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excuses, no my friend, that is a fact. you don't like it that i am right. he had a veto proof majority for about 14 weeks. 14 weeks is nothing in the scheme of 2 4 year terms. nobody could get anything passed in the current climate. not even jesus himself.unsung said:
Excuses.gimmesometruth27 said:
even if the dems held the house, what happens when something passes the house and then gets filibustered in the senate???unsung said:
From 2008-2010 Congress was Democrat, let's not forget that.gimmesometruth27 said:
dude, obama is not a fucking king. he can't just absorb territory and keep an army there because it pleases the king.
get a grip.
bush never had this amount of opposition in congress. i would like to see anyone else get what they want out of the last 2 do nothing congresses.
NOTHING.
you seem to be fairly good handle on civics, but do you know what a filibuster is and how it works? nobody can get anything passed once the filibuster is enacted.
pelosi passed a jobs bill in the house. filibustered in the senate.
these bills all passed the house and died in the senate due to filibuster...
H.R. 12 - Paycheck Fairness Act
H.R. 448 -- Elder Abuse Victims Act
H.R. 466 - Wounded Veteran Job Security Act
H.R. 515 - Radioactive Import Deterrence Act
H.R. 549 -- National Bombing Prevention Act
H.R. 577 - Vision Care for Kids Act
H.R. 626 - Federal Employees Paid Parental Leave Act
H.R. 1029 - Alien Smuggling and Terrorism Prevention Act
H.R. 1168 -- Veterans Retraining Act
H.R. 1171 - Homeless Veterans Reintegration Program Reauthorization
H.R. 1293 -- Disabled Veterans Home Improvement and Structural Alteration Grant Increase Act
H.R. 1429 -- Stop AIDS in Prison Act
H.R.5281 -- DREAM Act
S.3985 -- Emergency Senior Citizens Relief Act
S.3816 -- Creating American Jobs and Ending Offshoring Act
S.3369 -- A bill to provide for additional disclosure requirements for corporations, labor organizations, Super PACs and other entities
S.2237 -- Small Business Jobs and Tax Relief Act
S.2343 -- Stop the Student Loan Interest Rate Hike Act
S.1660 -- American Jobs Act of 2011
S.3457 -- Veterans Jobs Corps Act
James Zadroga 9/11 Health Bill -- seeks to provide free medical coverage for responders and survivors who were exposed to toxins after the attacks - this one passed in the House but could not get brought up in the Senate.
keep dismissing it as an excuse. this is how our legislative branch works now. the house passes something, the senate republicans filibuster it. period, end of sentence.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
I was aware of some of the above list,but not all.Id love to know what "Add ons" and pork were also included.(I know that comes with all sides).Like the student loan rate hike act.You know nobody would block that at face value,I'd love to see what really was in there.gimmesometruth27 said:
excuses, no my friend, that is a fact. you don't like it that i am right. he had a veto proof majority for about 14 weeks. 14 weeks is nothing in the scheme of 2 4 year terms. nobody could get anything passed in the current climate. not even jesus himself.unsung said:
Excuses.gimmesometruth27 said:
even if the dems held the house, what happens when something passes the house and then gets filibustered in the senate???unsung said:
From 2008-2010 Congress was Democrat, let's not forget that.gimmesometruth27 said:
dude, obama is not a fucking king. he can't just absorb territory and keep an army there because it pleases the king.
get a grip.
bush never had this amount of opposition in congress. i would like to see anyone else get what they want out of the last 2 do nothing congresses.
NOTHING.
you seem to be fairly good handle on civics, but do you know what a filibuster is and how it works? nobody can get anything passed once the filibuster is enacted.
pelosi passed a jobs bill in the house. filibustered in the senate.
these bills all passed the house and died in the senate due to filibuster...
H.R. 12 - Paycheck Fairness Act
H.R. 448 -- Elder Abuse Victims Act
H.R. 466 - Wounded Veteran Job Security Act
H.R. 515 - Radioactive Import Deterrence Act
H.R. 549 -- National Bombing Prevention Act
H.R. 577 - Vision Care for Kids Act
H.R. 626 - Federal Employees Paid Parental Leave Act
H.R. 1029 - Alien Smuggling and Terrorism Prevention Act
H.R. 1168 -- Veterans Retraining Act
H.R. 1171 - Homeless Veterans Reintegration Program Reauthorization
H.R. 1293 -- Disabled Veterans Home Improvement and Structural Alteration Grant Increase Act
H.R. 1429 -- Stop AIDS in Prison Act
H.R.5281 -- DREAM Act
S.3985 -- Emergency Senior Citizens Relief Act
S.3816 -- Creating American Jobs and Ending Offshoring Act
S.3369 -- A bill to provide for additional disclosure requirements for corporations, labor organizations, Super PACs and other entities
S.2237 -- Small Business Jobs and Tax Relief Act
S.2343 -- Stop the Student Loan Interest Rate Hike Act
S.1660 -- American Jobs Act of 2011
S.3457 -- Veterans Jobs Corps Act
James Zadroga 9/11 Health Bill -- seeks to provide free medical coverage for responders and survivors who were exposed to toxins after the attacks - this one passed in the House but could not get brought up in the Senate.
keep dismissing it as an excuse. this is how our legislative branch works now. the house passes something, the senate republicans filibuster it. period, end of sentence.0 -
unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487gimmesometruth27 said:
excuses, no my friend, that is a fact. you don't like it that i am right. he had a veto proof majority for about 14 weeks. 14 weeks is nothing in the scheme of 2 4 year terms. nobody could get anything passed in the current climate. not even jesus himself.unsung said:
Excuses.gimmesometruth27 said:
even if the dems held the house, what happens when something passes the house and then gets filibustered in the senate???unsung said:
From 2008-2010 Congress was Democrat, let's not forget that.gimmesometruth27 said:
dude, obama is not a fucking king. he can't just absorb territory and keep an army there because it pleases the king.
get a grip.
bush never had this amount of opposition in congress. i would like to see anyone else get what they want out of the last 2 do nothing congresses.
NOTHING.
you seem to be fairly good handle on civics, but do you know what a filibuster is and how it works? nobody can get anything passed once the filibuster is enacted.
pelosi passed a jobs bill in the house. filibustered in the senate.
these bills all passed the house and died in the senate due to filibuster...
H.R. 12 - Paycheck Fairness Act
H.R. 448 -- Elder Abuse Victims Act
H.R. 466 - Wounded Veteran Job Security Act
H.R. 515 - Radioactive Import Deterrence Act
H.R. 549 -- National Bombing Prevention Act
H.R. 577 - Vision Care for Kids Act
H.R. 626 - Federal Employees Paid Parental Leave Act
H.R. 1029 - Alien Smuggling and Terrorism Prevention Act
H.R. 1168 -- Veterans Retraining Act
H.R. 1171 - Homeless Veterans Reintegration Program Reauthorization
H.R. 1293 -- Disabled Veterans Home Improvement and Structural Alteration Grant Increase Act
H.R. 1429 -- Stop AIDS in Prison Act
H.R.5281 -- DREAM Act
S.3985 -- Emergency Senior Citizens Relief Act
S.3816 -- Creating American Jobs and Ending Offshoring Act
S.3369 -- A bill to provide for additional disclosure requirements for corporations, labor organizations, Super PACs and other entities
S.2237 -- Small Business Jobs and Tax Relief Act
S.2343 -- Stop the Student Loan Interest Rate Hike Act
S.1660 -- American Jobs Act of 2011
S.3457 -- Veterans Jobs Corps Act
James Zadroga 9/11 Health Bill -- seeks to provide free medical coverage for responders and survivors who were exposed to toxins after the attacks - this one passed in the House but could not get brought up in the Senate.
keep dismissing it as an excuse. this is how our legislative branch works now. the house passes something, the senate republicans filibuster it. period, end of sentence.
Good, looks like we saved a lot of spending.
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unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487How did that obstructionist Congress do with that filibuster on Obama's Supreme Court nominations?0
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The reason I didn't vote was because I define the nation's leadership as all 3 branches. This has something to do with my working knowledge of the Constitution. Congress and the SC have failed us many times. Obama has been powerless to stop the charade of do nothing. I hope one of the SC justices retires soon so this great country can go back to having a separation of church and state.8/29/00*5/2/03*7/2/03*7/3/03*7/11/03*9/28/04*5/24/06*6/28/08*5/15/10*5/17/10* 10/16/13*10/25/13* 4/28/16*4/28/16*8/5/16*8/7/16 EV 6/15/11 Brad 10/27/020
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I don't think leadership qualities factor into he gets elected to POTUS anymore. You just need to look good in front of a camera, by able to fund raise, and be able to lie with a straight face. And you have be a narcissist and out of your mind to want the job in the first place.Be Excellent To Each OtherParty On, Dudes!0
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which one?unsung said:How did that obstructionist Congress do with that filibuster on Obama's Supreme Court nominations?
they have held up every single one of his judges that he has appointed to the federal courts.Post edited by gimmesometruth27 on"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
many of those were not necessarily "spending" bills.unsung said:gimmesometruth27 said:
excuses, no my friend, that is a fact. you don't like it that i am right. he had a veto proof majority for about 14 weeks. 14 weeks is nothing in the scheme of 2 4 year terms. nobody could get anything passed in the current climate. not even jesus himself.unsung said:
Excuses.gimmesometruth27 said:
even if the dems held the house, what happens when something passes the house and then gets filibustered in the senate???unsung said:
From 2008-2010 Congress was Democrat, let's not forget that.gimmesometruth27 said:
dude, obama is not a fucking king. he can't just absorb territory and keep an army there because it pleases the king.
get a grip.
bush never had this amount of opposition in congress. i would like to see anyone else get what they want out of the last 2 do nothing congresses.
NOTHING.
you seem to be fairly good handle on civics, but do you know what a filibuster is and how it works? nobody can get anything passed once the filibuster is enacted.
pelosi passed a jobs bill in the house. filibustered in the senate.
these bills all passed the house and died in the senate due to filibuster...
H.R. 12 - Paycheck Fairness Act
H.R. 448 -- Elder Abuse Victims Act
H.R. 466 - Wounded Veteran Job Security Act
H.R. 515 - Radioactive Import Deterrence Act
H.R. 549 -- National Bombing Prevention Act
H.R. 577 - Vision Care for Kids Act
H.R. 626 - Federal Employees Paid Parental Leave Act
H.R. 1029 - Alien Smuggling and Terrorism Prevention Act
H.R. 1168 -- Veterans Retraining Act
H.R. 1171 - Homeless Veterans Reintegration Program Reauthorization
H.R. 1293 -- Disabled Veterans Home Improvement and Structural Alteration Grant Increase Act
H.R. 1429 -- Stop AIDS in Prison Act
H.R.5281 -- DREAM Act
S.3985 -- Emergency Senior Citizens Relief Act
S.3816 -- Creating American Jobs and Ending Offshoring Act
S.3369 -- A bill to provide for additional disclosure requirements for corporations, labor organizations, Super PACs and other entities
S.2237 -- Small Business Jobs and Tax Relief Act
S.2343 -- Stop the Student Loan Interest Rate Hike Act
S.1660 -- American Jobs Act of 2011
S.3457 -- Veterans Jobs Corps Act
James Zadroga 9/11 Health Bill -- seeks to provide free medical coverage for responders and survivors who were exposed to toxins after the attacks - this one passed in the House but could not get brought up in the Senate.
keep dismissing it as an excuse. this is how our legislative branch works now. the house passes something, the senate republicans filibuster it. period, end of sentence.
Good, looks like we saved a lot of spending.
really?? you would have opposed the "small business jobs and tax relief act"??? that is right up conservative alley."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
Yes (cubed).Jason P said:I don't think leadership qualities factor into he gets elected to POTUS anymore. You just need to look good in front of a camera, by able to fund raise, and be able to lie with a straight face. And you have be a narcissist and out of your mind to want the job in the first place.
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unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487gimmesometruth27 said:
many of those were not necessarily "spending" bills.unsung said:gimmesometruth27 said:
excuses, no my friend, that is a fact. you don't like it that i am right. he had a veto proof majority for about 14 weeks. 14 weeks is nothing in the scheme of 2 4 year terms. nobody could get anything passed in the current climate. not even jesus himself.unsung said:
Excuses.gimmesometruth27 said:
even if the dems held the house, what happens when something passes the house and then gets filibustered in the senate???unsung said:
From 2008-2010 Congress was Democrat, let's not forget that.gimmesometruth27 said:
dude, obama is not a fucking king. he can't just absorb territory and keep an army there because it pleases the king.
get a grip.
bush never had this amount of opposition in congress. i would like to see anyone else get what they want out of the last 2 do nothing congresses.
NOTHING.
you seem to be fairly good handle on civics, but do you know what a filibuster is and how it works? nobody can get anything passed once the filibuster is enacted.
pelosi passed a jobs bill in the house. filibustered in the senate.
these bills all passed the house and died in the senate due to filibuster...
H.R. 12 - Paycheck Fairness Act
H.R. 448 -- Elder Abuse Victims Act
H.R. 466 - Wounded Veteran Job Security Act
H.R. 515 - Radioactive Import Deterrence Act
H.R. 549 -- National Bombing Prevention Act
H.R. 577 - Vision Care for Kids Act
H.R. 626 - Federal Employees Paid Parental Leave Act
H.R. 1029 - Alien Smuggling and Terrorism Prevention Act
H.R. 1168 -- Veterans Retraining Act
H.R. 1171 - Homeless Veterans Reintegration Program Reauthorization
H.R. 1293 -- Disabled Veterans Home Improvement and Structural Alteration Grant Increase Act
H.R. 1429 -- Stop AIDS in Prison Act
H.R.5281 -- DREAM Act
S.3985 -- Emergency Senior Citizens Relief Act
S.3816 -- Creating American Jobs and Ending Offshoring Act
S.3369 -- A bill to provide for additional disclosure requirements for corporations, labor organizations, Super PACs and other entities
S.2237 -- Small Business Jobs and Tax Relief Act
S.2343 -- Stop the Student Loan Interest Rate Hike Act
S.1660 -- American Jobs Act of 2011
S.3457 -- Veterans Jobs Corps Act
James Zadroga 9/11 Health Bill -- seeks to provide free medical coverage for responders and survivors who were exposed to toxins after the attacks - this one passed in the House but could not get brought up in the Senate.
keep dismissing it as an excuse. this is how our legislative branch works now. the house passes something, the senate republicans filibuster it. period, end of sentence.
Good, looks like we saved a lot of spending.
really?? you would have opposed the "small business jobs and tax relief act"??? that is right up conservative alley.
Ok, I'm not a conservative.
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who's exhausted?for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce0 -
>:) >:)unsung said:gimmesometruth27 said:
excuses, no my friend, that is a fact. you don't like it that i am right. he had a veto proof majority for about 14 weeks. 14 weeks is nothing in the scheme of 2 4 year terms. nobody could get anything passed in the current climate. not even jesus himself.unsung said:
Excuses.gimmesometruth27 said:
even if the dems held the house, what happens when something passes the house and then gets filibustered in the senate???unsung said:
From 2008-2010 Congress was Democrat, let's not forget that.gimmesometruth27 said:
dude, obama is not a fucking king. he can't just absorb territory and keep an army there because it pleases the king.
get a grip.
bush never had this amount of opposition in congress. i would like to see anyone else get what they want out of the last 2 do nothing congresses.
NOTHING.
you seem to be fairly good handle on civics, but do you know what a filibuster is and how it works? nobody can get anything passed once the filibuster is enacted.
pelosi passed a jobs bill in the house. filibustered in the senate.
these bills all passed the house and died in the senate due to filibuster...
H.R. 12 - Paycheck Fairness Act
H.R. 448 -- Elder Abuse Victims Act
H.R. 466 - Wounded Veteran Job Security Act
H.R. 515 - Radioactive Import Deterrence Act
H.R. 549 -- National Bombing Prevention Act
H.R. 577 - Vision Care for Kids Act
H.R. 626 - Federal Employees Paid Parental Leave Act
H.R. 1029 - Alien Smuggling and Terrorism Prevention Act
H.R. 1168 -- Veterans Retraining Act
H.R. 1171 - Homeless Veterans Reintegration Program Reauthorization
H.R. 1293 -- Disabled Veterans Home Improvement and Structural Alteration Grant Increase Act
H.R. 1429 -- Stop AIDS in Prison Act
H.R.5281 -- DREAM Act
S.3985 -- Emergency Senior Citizens Relief Act
S.3816 -- Creating American Jobs and Ending Offshoring Act
S.3369 -- A bill to provide for additional disclosure requirements for corporations, labor organizations, Super PACs and other entities
S.2237 -- Small Business Jobs and Tax Relief Act
S.2343 -- Stop the Student Loan Interest Rate Hike Act
S.1660 -- American Jobs Act of 2011
S.3457 -- Veterans Jobs Corps Act
James Zadroga 9/11 Health Bill -- seeks to provide free medical coverage for responders and survivors who were exposed to toxins after the attacks - this one passed in the House but could not get brought up in the Senate.
keep dismissing it as an excuse. this is how our legislative branch works now. the house passes something, the senate republicans filibuster it. period, end of sentence.
Good, looks like we saved a lot of spending.Post edited by callen on10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG0 -
spot on....JimmyV said:I would argue that of the three branches of our government, leadership is at its current best in the Executive. The Legislative and Judicial branches are both disasters right now. Obama might not be perfect but his leadership far outshines that of Boehner, Reid, or Roberts.
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unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487All three are disasters. Seriously, stop choosing the lesser of evils.0
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