what do you think of America's leadership sense obama got elected ?

Godfather.
Godfather. Posts: 12,504
edited July 2014 in A Moving Train
http://conservativetribune.com/general-risks-rebuke-obama/

what do you think of America's leadership sense obama got elected ? 21 votes

leadership is fine in America
42% 9 votes
leadership has fallen apart in America
38% 8 votes
not sure
19% 4 votes
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,161
    i have no idea what you are asking here.

    since obama got elected our federal leadership has disappeared because the republicans will not work with him. obama says "the sky is blue" and they say "we aren't sure but instead of looking into it and coming to a consensus, we are going to sue your muslim ass."
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,161
    by the way, the link you shared is utter bullshit.

    1, obama did not pull troops out early. he adhered to the status of forces agreement that troops will be out by 2012 signed by fucking bush!!!! obama tried to stay there longer and al maliki said we had to go.

    2. the people obama traded for bowe bergdahl were people that republicans agreed with releasing before they were released. once they got released, they changed their minds and opposed it.

    you know what? every single one of the claims made by the person in the article have been throughly debunked, and have been discussed in other threads on here. i am not going to waste any more time posting in this thread.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    i have no idea what you are asking here.

    since obama got elected our federal leadership has disappeared because the republicans will not work with him. obama says "the sky is blue" and they say "we aren't sure but instead of looking into it and coming to a consensus, we are going to sue your muslim ass."

    Gimmi I don't mean any disrespect to you or your comment but it really seems that there has been excuse after excuse for obama's poor judgment, Granted I have not supported obama from the start but I did hope for the best,but really man the current state of our country is in disaray and to me seems to be getting worse as each day passes and in my opinion our leadership has failed us.

    Godfather.

  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,161
    Godfather. said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    i have no idea what you are asking here.

    since obama got elected our federal leadership has disappeared because the republicans will not work with him. obama says "the sky is blue" and they say "we aren't sure but instead of looking into it and coming to a consensus, we are going to sue your muslim ass."

    Gimmi I don't mean any disrespect to you or your comment but it really seems that there has been excuse after excuse for obama's poor judgment, Granted I have not supported obama from the start but I did hope for the best,but really man the current state of our country is in disaray and to me seems to be getting worse as each day passes and in my opinion our leadership has failed us.

    Godfather.

    so instead of trying to do something to fix it, republicans vote for the first time in history to sue a sitting president.

    they can go fuck themselves, sitting there doing nothing, and then when their participation is required, they divert their efforts to a baseless lawsuit. maybe the conservatives should look in a mirror just once and ask themselves why the system is not working instead of blaming obama for failing in the "set-him-up-to-fail" environment they have created for him.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,600
    edited July 2014
    I would argue that of the three branches of our government, leadership is at its current best in the Executive. The Legislative and Judicial branches are both disasters right now. Obama might not be perfect but his leadership far outshines that of Boehner, Reid, or Roberts.
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  • CH156378
    CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    Lol
  • CH156378
    CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    I wish I could vote a third time for him.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,600
    CH156378 said:

    I wish I could vote a third time for him.

    That's how I felt about Bill Clinton.

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    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    If Hillary gets elected or someone like Jeb Bush / Chris Christie / Santorum / Rubio, etc I fear the result would not be good. We need real change, not more establishment.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Since
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    edited July 2014
    According to a discusion I overheard today, America's leadership is becoming a Monarchy: Paraphrased, what I heard was:
    "Well, Jane, I really liked Bill Clinton and I sort of like Hillary but I'm not so sure now. But what really gets me is now I hear Chelsea Clinton is thinking of going into politics. I mean, it's like it's turning into a Moooooooooooonarchy! I mean, what next? Queen Clinton?"
    LOL!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Americans have the same problems we Canadians do, you are looking at politicians as leaders or for leadership ... the voters are the leaders and politicians should be taking directions from the electorate and until that happens things will continue to spin out of control.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • EarlWelsh
    EarlWelsh Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,127
    Byrnzie said:

    Since

  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Godfather. said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    i have no idea what you are asking here.

    since obama got elected our federal leadership has disappeared because the republicans will not work with him. obama says "the sky is blue" and they say "we aren't sure but instead of looking into it and coming to a consensus, we are going to sue your muslim ass."

    Gimmi I don't mean any disrespect to you or your comment but it really seems that there has been excuse after excuse for obama's poor judgment, Granted I have not supported obama from the start but I did hope for the best,but really man the current state of our country is in disaray and to me seems to be getting worse as each day passes and in my opinion our leadership has failed us.

    Godfather.


    you give far too much credit to the power of a president! POTUSI must work with congress to accomplish anything legally so what can a president do with such an obstructive congress?? Well obviously the only thing he can do on his own is issue Exec. Orders which arent strictly legal (never stopped bush lol he taught obama how to do it), which furthers the obstructionist agenda. Dont forget that across all political leanings congress has a lower approval rating! You have not adressed the conservative obstructionism at all to my knowledge on these threads. Its always, "Obamas fault", maybe some research into the powers of the 3 branches and the limitations of the exec. would be helpful.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Out of Iraq.
    Stayed out of Libya.
    Getting out of Afghanistan

    Better than last for sure.
    10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    They are all useless right now.Right Dosent want to work with left,left hates the right.Cant agree on anything.Budget, foreign policy ,Immigration.SMH
    I don't care wether your a Dem or. Rep this shit is broken and I don't think the current players on either side help.I can't remember a more partisan divide.Politcs is trumping lawmaking that can help this country.At least when Clinton and Reagan were in office they both new how to play the middle and reach out for compromise.Things got done.We need shorter term limits so people in office can govern and not spend 1/2 the time worring about what their party says,or about raising money for next election.Leadership?What Leadership?Its all "It's not us its them"from both sides.
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    callen said:

    Out of Iraq.
    Stayed out of Libya.
    Getting out of Afghanistan

    Better than last for sure.

    Debatable!
    Iraq is still fucked,Syria is a fucking mess(What about Benghazi?)Taliban still doing there thing.Middle east is a mess,Russia is going nuts,IRS nonsense,(this is a biggy btw)NSA problems
    Not all peaches and cream.
    Hes had his positive moments to be fair wit getting Osama,and some of his social agenda items.
    Jury still out on Obama care, but def not a strong foreign policy guy and will be interesting to see how immigration shakes out.Holder is a detriment.
    Im an Independant so I am not partisan.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    rr165892 said:

    They are all useless right now.Right Dosent want to work with left,left hates the right.Cant agree on anything.Budget, foreign policy ,Immigration.SMH
    I don't care wether your a Dem or. Rep this shit is broken and I don't think the current players on either side help.I can't remember a more partisan divide.Politcs is trumping lawmaking that can help this country.At least when Clinton and Reagan were in office they both new how to play the middle and reach out for compromise.Things got done.We need shorter term limits so people in office can govern and not spend 1/2 the time worring about what their party says,or about raising money for next election.Leadership?What Leadership?Its all "It's not us its them"from both sides.

    +1!
    but to say obma bad foreign policy is head in the sand! the whole world despised bush, obama sucks but better.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,161
    define "leadership" and how it is framed in this question.

    everybody needs to check out real time with bill maher from last night. there were 2 tea party conservatives on the panel who kept spouting off about failure of leadership and failure of this and that, and bill maher finally asked for specifics. neither one of the guys could provide specifics about what obama should be doing differently, just that something needs to change. if you can't name one specific, just one, they you have to stop bitching. one guy basically said obama should be impeached because he failed to buy battle helicopters from france. one guy said obama's failed leadership is because he used drones to attack people in other countries. maher asked if the guy would rather him send in airstrikes or put armies on the ground, and the guy said no to both. maher asked something like "well what other option is there and what suggestion do you have? what do you want him to do??" and the guy could not answer.

    that simple question made 2 anti obama conserviative hacks look like morons.

    this is a very stupid question to have a survey about, because nobody has suggested any alternatives. it is just a leading question to bash the president.

    i mean, look at the link address and the website associated with it.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    edited July 2014
    rr165892 said:

    callen said:

    Out of Iraq.
    Stayed out of Libya.
    Getting out of Afghanistan

    Better than last for sure.

    Debatable!
    Iraq is still fucked,Syria is a fucking mess(What about Benghazi?)Taliban still doing there thing.Middle east is a mess,Russia is going nuts,IRS nonsense,(this is a biggy btw)NSA problems
    Not all peaches and cream.
    Hes had his positive moments to be fair wit getting Osama,and some of his social agenda items.
    Jury still out on Obama care, but def not a strong foreign policy guy and will be interesting to see how immigration shakes out.Holder is a detriment.
    Im an Independant so I am not partisan.
    Yes they are a mess. And?!?! Do you want the US to fix the world?

    Really Benghazi? You say your not partisan but mention this? Do you think Cheney/ Bush helped the world/US cause?

    Yes healthcare. Equality. What did recent past administrations do?

    Economy is rocking. Stock market all Time high. Unemployment lower. Obama's not fucking with Washington and Colorado. Inflation in check. Auto industry thriving.

    Imagine how really fucked up things would be with McCain and Palin at helm.

    Post edited by callen on
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