Simple question: Do you support Israel's right to exist?

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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,067
    in his way ,thirty , I think he is exposing the hypocrisy from some in the states in regards to our history and current events around the world. Not a bad thing.

    Thats my read anyway.
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,433

    mickeyrat said:

    ogre1213 said:

    Idris said:

    What does that even mean? Exist? Where? How? In what capacity?

    Surely Israel in her current state should not be around.

    Do you think the jews deserve any land at all?
    what is your point? they were allocated land during the formation of Israel, then seized more during the 1967 war . And have since increased settlements in areas stolen BEYOND that.

    Just how much land do they want? what of the folks who were already there? How much do they get? What kind of compensation for destroyed homes, groves, etc? What of those displaced in 1948? What about them? how much do they get?
    Micky....wow great post ! after reading it I started to think about the comments of "so called" stolen land in America and wondered how people can complain about the history of America and turn right around and support this argument...good for some but not for others ? it seems the world from day one of human existance has been in a battle for land or hunting grounds or even a cave for that matter, it seems that people choose sides from their heart's reather than truth or logic.........yea I'm tweeking,way tooooo much coffee. :))


    Godfather.
    Why do you emphasize "so called' as you did when you spoke of America being stolen from its original inhabitants?

    Do you deny that Europeans took the land from the native people by force?
    If it's anything like Canada's stolen land story, I'm sure it was a perfectly fair trade of thousands of acres of land in exchange for a few beaver pelts and alcohol to introduce a new disease to a People predisposed to it already. And because I'm not a fan of vagueness or ambiguity - **MASSIVE SARCASM**.
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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697

    mickeyrat said:

    ogre1213 said:

    Idris said:

    What does that even mean? Exist? Where? How? In what capacity?

    Surely Israel in her current state should not be around.

    Do you think the jews deserve any land at all?
    what is your point? they were allocated land during the formation of Israel, then seized more during the 1967 war . And have since increased settlements in areas stolen BEYOND that.

    Just how much land do they want? what of the folks who were already there? How much do they get? What kind of compensation for destroyed homes, groves, etc? What of those displaced in 1948? What about them? how much do they get?
    Micky....wow great post ! after reading it I started to think about the comments of "so called" stolen land in America and wondered how people can complain about the history of America and turn right around and support this argument...good for some but not for others ? it seems the world from day one of human existance has been in a battle for land or hunting grounds or even a cave for that matter, it seems that people choose sides from their heart's reather than truth or logic.........yea I'm tweeking,way tooooo much coffee. :))


    Godfather.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    mickeyrat said:

    ogre1213 said:

    Idris said:

    What does that even mean? Exist? Where? How? In what capacity?

    Surely Israel in her current state should not be around.

    Do you think the jews deserve any land at all?
    what is your point? they were allocated land during the formation of Israel, then seized more during the 1967 war . And have since increased settlements in areas stolen BEYOND that.

    Just how much land do they want? what of the folks who were already there? How much do they get? What kind of compensation for destroyed homes, groves, etc? What of those displaced in 1948? What about them? how much do they get?
    Micky....wow great post ! after reading it I started to think about the comments of "so called" stolen land in America and wondered how people can complain about the history of America and turn right around and support this argument...good for some but not for others ? it seems the world from day one of human existance has been in a battle for land or hunting grounds or even a cave for that matter, it seems that people choose sides from their heart's reather than truth or logic.........yea I'm tweeking,way tooooo much coffee. :))


    Godfather.
    Why do you emphasize "so called' as you did when you spoke of America being stolen from its original inhabitants?

    Do you deny that Europeans took the land from the native people by force?
    it was bought with cash-beads-whisky-pelts and what ever else was up for barter and yes it was also taken by military action,why is that so hard to understand ? the indians fought and killed each other for land and hunting grounds,I'm not saying that was the right way but it is the human way it seems ..that is of corse unless you are singeling out white Euro Americans but if you will falt one race you have to falt them all,we as humans tend to fight for what we want rather than give up and world history proves that.

    Godfather.

  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    rr165892 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    ogre1213 said:

    Idris said:

    What does that even mean? Exist? Where? How? In what capacity?

    Surely Israel in her current state should not be around.

    Do you think the jews deserve any land at all?
    what is your point? they were allocated land during the formation of Israel, then seized more during the 1967 war . And have since increased settlements in areas stolen BEYOND that.

    Just how much land do they want? what of the folks who were already there? How much do they get? What kind of compensation for destroyed homes, groves, etc? What of those displaced in 1948? What about them? how much do they get?
    Micky....wow great post ! after reading it I started to think about the comments of "so called" stolen land in America and wondered how people can complain about the history of America and turn right around and support this argument...good for some but not for others ? it seems the world from day one of human existance has been in a battle for land or hunting grounds or even a cave for that matter, it seems that people choose sides from their heart's reather than truth or logic.........yea I'm tweeking,way tooooo much coffee. :))


    Godfather.
    Who isn't seeking a sweeter cave GF ?
    hahhahhahhaha true !

    Godfather.

  • benjs said:

    mickeyrat said:

    ogre1213 said:

    Idris said:

    What does that even mean? Exist? Where? How? In what capacity?

    Surely Israel in her current state should not be around.

    Do you think the jews deserve any land at all?
    what is your point? they were allocated land during the formation of Israel, then seized more during the 1967 war . And have since increased settlements in areas stolen BEYOND that.

    Just how much land do they want? what of the folks who were already there? How much do they get? What kind of compensation for destroyed homes, groves, etc? What of those displaced in 1948? What about them? how much do they get?
    Micky....wow great post ! after reading it I started to think about the comments of "so called" stolen land in America and wondered how people can complain about the history of America and turn right around and support this argument...good for some but not for others ? it seems the world from day one of human existance has been in a battle for land or hunting grounds or even a cave for that matter, it seems that people choose sides from their heart's reather than truth or logic.........yea I'm tweeking,way tooooo much coffee. :))


    Godfather.
    Why do you emphasize "so called' as you did when you spoke of America being stolen from its original inhabitants?

    Do you deny that Europeans took the land from the native people by force?
    If it's anything like Canada's stolen land story, I'm sure it was a perfectly fair trade of thousands of acres of land in exchange for a few beaver pelts and alcohol to introduce a new disease to a People predisposed to it already. And because I'm not a fan of vagueness or ambiguity - **MASSIVE SARCASM**.
    Canada has its blemishes as well. But I don't deny or sugar coat them.
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  • mickeyrat said:

    ogre1213 said:

    Idris said:

    What does that even mean? Exist? Where? How? In what capacity?

    Surely Israel in her current state should not be around.

    Do you think the jews deserve any land at all?
    ?
    Micky....wow great post ! after reading it I started to think about the comments of "so called" stolen land in America and wondered how people can complain about the history of America and turn right around and support this argument...good for some but not for others ? it seems the world from day one of human existance has been in a battle for land or hunting grounds or even a cave for that matter, it seems that people choose sides from their heart's reather than truth or logic.........yea I'm tweeking,way tooooo much coffee. :))


    Godfather.
    Why do you emphasize "so called' as you did when you spoke of America being stolen from its original inhabitants?

    Do you deny that Europeans took the land from the native people by force?
    it was bought with cash-beads-whisky-pelts and what ever else was up for barter and yes it was also taken by military action,why is that so hard to understand ? the indians fought and killed each other for land and hunting grounds,I'm not saying that was the right way but it is the human way it seems ..that is of corse unless you are singeling out white Euro Americans but if you will falt one race you have to falt them all,we as humans tend to fight for what we want rather than give up and world history proves that.

    Godfather.

    It's not hard to understand. To that, I'd say why is it so hard to acknowledge?

    To the rest of your post, there's some truth in there that some might not wish to acknowledge. And as well (I gotta say it)... Gawd there's a lot of spelling errors. I know you don't give a shit, but doesn't your computer have auto-correct or notify you of 'dicey' words? I get the impression you're getting by with a Commodore Vic 20. :D
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  • SivanMerili
    SivanMerili Ashdod, Israel Posts: 133
    What a horrifying question.
    Do you really got the nerves to even question my right to exsist?!

    Israel = any israeli who lives in it borders; christians, muslimes, jews, circassians, bedouins, druzes, ethaists.
    All are servimg in the IDF (those who are not jews dont have to)
    Are working in israel.
    Geting education in Israel.
    Having social life.
    Making love, fuck some more, work, love, work, love. Peace peace peace.
    DO YOU REALY GOT THE NERVES TO QUESTION MORE THAN 7M
    PEOPLE RIGHT TO EXIST IN THEIR COUNTRY?!

    Dose any country in the world have the right to exist?
    Lets talk about that.
    And please do detail the name of every country, and why they have the right to exist or not..
    Open the worlds map.
    Good luck with the homework.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,737

    What a horrifying question.
    Do you really got the nerves to even question my right to exsist?!

    Israel = any israeli who lives in it borders; christians, muslimes, jews, circassians, bedouins, druzes, ethaists.
    All are servimg in the IDF (those who are not jews dont have to)
    Are working in israel.
    Geting education in Israel.
    Having social life.
    Making love, fuck some more, work, love, work, love. Peace peace peace.
    DO YOU REALY GOT THE NERVES TO QUESTION MORE THAN 7M
    PEOPLE RIGHT TO EXIST IN THEIR COUNTRY?!

    Dose any country in the world have the right to exist?
    Lets talk about that.
    And please do detail the name of every country, and why they have the right to exist or not..
    Open the worlds map.
    Good luck with the homework.

    It really is an absurd question but don't worry, I don't think anybody here really questions Israel's right to exist. If they do, they are probably bating. My advice: don't take the bate.

    By they way, I think the world would love to see your country working hard for "Peace peace peace".

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • SivanMerili
    SivanMerili Ashdod, Israel Posts: 133
    Simple question:
    DO YOU SUPPORT TURKEY's RIGHT TO EXSIST?


  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037

    Simple question:
    DO YOU SUPPORT TURKEY's RIGHT TO EXSIST?


    No, but I support it's right to exist.

  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255

    What a horrifying question.
    Do you really got the nerves to even question my right to exsist?!

    Israel = any israeli who lives in it borders; christians, muslimes, jews, circassians, bedouins, druzes, ethaists.
    All are servimg in the IDF (those who are not jews dont have to)
    Are working in israel.
    Geting education in Israel.
    Having social life.
    Making love, fuck some more, work, love, work, love. Peace peace peace.
    DO YOU REALY GOT THE NERVES TO QUESTION MORE THAN 7M
    PEOPLE RIGHT TO EXIST IN THEIR COUNTRY?!

    Dose any country in the world have the right to exist?
    Lets talk about that.
    And please do detail the name of every country, and why they have the right to exist or not..
    Open the worlds map.
    Good luck with the homework.

    Um, you know the OP is from Israel I believe?
  • SivanMerili
    SivanMerili Ashdod, Israel Posts: 133
    Byrnzie said:

    Simple question:
    DO YOU SUPPORT TURKEY's RIGHT TO EXSIST?


    No, but I support it's right to exist.

    Why?
    They comit a horrifying genocide and massacred the Armenian people systematicly.

    Simple question:
    Do you support in Sudan's right to *exsist?
  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037


    Why?
    They comit a horrifying genocide and massacred the Armenian people systematicly.

    Simple question:
    Do you support in Sudan's right to *exsist?

    Where are you from? A country with no history?

    Does Germany have a right to exist? That country produced the holocaust.

    Does Belgium have a right to exist? They carried out genocide in the Congo.

    And Britain, and the U.S, e.t.c, e.t.c.


    Like I said above, the question is stupid.

  • SivanMerili
    SivanMerili Ashdod, Israel Posts: 133
    So why this post is still here?
    Why the fuck there are people here that deliberate on this topic?
  • SivanMerili
    SivanMerili Ashdod, Israel Posts: 133
    I dont care where he is from.
    Even if this was an attempt to provocation, there is no place for such topic or a chance to enen start a debate on it.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    mickeyrat said:

    ogre1213 said:

    Idris said:

    What does that even mean? Exist? Where? How? In what capacity?

    Surely Israel in her current state should not be around.

    Do you think the jews deserve any land at all?
    ?
    Micky....wow great post ! after reading it I started to think about the comments of "so called" stolen land in America and wondered how people can complain about the history of America and turn right around and support this argument...good for some but not for others ? it seems the world from day one of human existance has been in a battle for land or hunting grounds or even a cave for that matter, it seems that people choose sides from their heart's reather than truth or logic.........yea I'm tweeking,way tooooo much coffee. :))


    Godfather.
    Why do you emphasize "so called' as you did when you spoke of America being stolen from its original inhabitants?

    Do you deny that Europeans took the land from the native people by force?
    it was bought with cash-beads-whisky-pelts and what ever else was up for barter and yes it was also taken by military action,why is that so hard to understand ? the indians fought and killed each other for land and hunting grounds,I'm not saying that was the right way but it is the human way it seems ..that is of corse unless you are singeling out white Euro Americans but if you will falt one race you have to falt them all,we as humans tend to fight for what we want rather than give up and world history proves that.

    Godfather.

    It's not hard to understand. To that, I'd say why is it so hard to acknowledge?

    To the rest of your post, there's some truth in there that some might not wish to acknowledge. And as well (I gotta say it)... Gawd there's a lot of spelling errors. I know you don't give a shit, but doesn't your computer have auto-correct or notify you of 'dicey' words? I get the impression you're getting by with a Commodore Vic 20. :D

    acknowedged for sure I'm just tired of some of the people that keep using the term "stolen land",they ues as if to make racism the truth and reason for thier statements, I have read up on some history about this and some of it is just jaw dropping crazy, it was not all the red mans stories of madness about the white settlers coming to America there is some crazy stuff on both sides but I'll tell you this...this scalping thing....def a white man thing in the begening but when the indians turned it around on the white settlers...it freaked everybody hahhahha," long stick goes boom"

    Godfather.

  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    yes and my spelling....hahhahhahhahhhaha never has been that great.

    Godfather.