Jewish Settler Attacks = Terrorism

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  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056


    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/12/israel-continues-gaza-bombardment-pushing-death-toll-past-120

    Early on Saturday 16 Palestinians were reported to have died in a wave of Israeli air strikes as Operation Protective Edge entered its fifth day.

    Among them were two people killed in a strike that hit a charitable association for the disabled in Beit Lahiya in northern Gaza...
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056

    With the iron dome missile system, Israel uses the missiles to protect their people. Hamas is using their people to protect their missiles.

    Hamas didn't 'use' anybody as human shields, because those people who made their way to the top of the building to try and prevent it from being destroyed in an act of Israeli collective punishment - a war crime - did so by their own volition, their own choice, and not because of any orders from Hamas.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050

    http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/cut-power-gaza-dialysis-patients-knesset-deputy-speaker-urges

    Cut off power to Gaza dialysis patients, Knesset deputy speaker urges

    “The blood of a dialysis patient in Gaza is not redder than the blood of our IDF [Israeli army] soldiers who will, God forbid, need to enter [Gaza],” said Moshe Feiglin, the deputy speaker of the Knesset, Israel’s parliament, on Wednesday.

    “Therefore I call on the prime minister who we all support in this difficult hour, before we send the IDF into Gaza, we should simply shut down their electricity,” he added.

    ...When lawmaker Ibrahim Sarsour of the United Arab List party condemned Israel’s attack on Gaza, Feiglin orders guards to forcibly remove him from the podium and expel him.

    why am i not shocked by this?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050



    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/12/israel-continues-gaza-bombardment-pushing-death-toll-past-120

    Early on Saturday 16 Palestinians were reported to have died in a wave of Israeli air strikes as Operation Protective Edge entered its fifth day.

    Among them were two people killed in a strike that hit a charitable association for the disabled in Beit Lahiya in northern Gaza...

    protective edge.... so much irony there.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    edited July 2014
    Since they closed the thread on the porch, I'll post it here.
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=X4ukBCCyczA
    Skip to 4:30 for the tag.

    Put the pj in Israel campaign to bed. Thank you Eddie for speaking out with such passion.
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  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    edited July 2014

    Since they closed the thread on the porch, I'll post it here.
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=X4ukBCCyczA
    Skip to 4:30 for the tag.

    Put the pj in Israel campaign to bed. Thank you Eddie for speaking out with such passion.

    Thanks drowned out! Thanks for speaking up and showing conviction. Takes people like you and byrnzie who are NOT afraid to speak out. Who are NOT afraid to voice opinion and share facts. They silenced one and are gonna try to silence you to my friend. And I applaud you Thirty, for jumping in and wanting to know more. Dnt be afraid Thirty to search of answers, to ask questions, to voice your opinion. Much respect for at least wanting to know what's really going on over there. Byrnzie, sorry you were silenced my friend, hopefully we'll keep this up till u get back.

    Oh shit, sorry Gimmie, I forgot to mention U2 buddy! Rod, you've always been popping in and out, awesome bro that u still care about this! So much passion. U guys have no idea what this means to Palestinians all around the world to have people like you guys spreading information and speaking out against what's happening to them. Awesome.
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  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    Here's another interesting article I found- Haaretz

    By Judy Maltz
    Published 14:48 12.07.14

    In a surprise move, the leaders of World Bnei Akiva refrained Friday from voting on a motion to replace the secretary-general of the religious-Zionist movement over remarks he made urging violent revenge on Palestinians for the murder of three Jewish teenagers.

    Although the American and British branches of the international Zionist youth movement had demanded the ouster of Rabbi Noam Perel, its governing body decided not to hold the vote because most of the other branches of the movement were satisfied with the apology he delivered earlier this week.

    In a statement, World Bnei Akiva sufficed with the following reference to Perel: “The Mazkirut Murchevet [extended secretariat] received reports from representatives of snifim [branches] from around the world, and has been apprised of the substantial damage caused to snifim [around the world by Rav Noam Perel’s statement, despite his apology.”

    It also said that “The Mazkirut Murchevet wishes to emphasize our love for humanity and our deep aversion to extremist actions that are antithetical to Judaism such as ‘price tagging’ and acts of revenge.”

    Shortly after the bodies of the three teenage boys were discovered, Perel posted on his Facebook page: “An entire nation and thousands of years of history demand revenge.” He urged the “army of avengers” not to stop at “300 Philistine foreskins,” alluding to the biblical tale of David, who killed 200 Philistines and gave their foreskins to King Saul as the bride price for his daughter.

    Expressing his deep apologies and describing his Facebook post as “misleading and irresponsible,” Perel said in a statement published a week later: “The call for the Israeli government to look after the lives of our children must not be confused in any way with any suggestion of revenge, words which should not be used by any person, and certainly not educators and leaders. I cannot express to you how badly this error has caused me to feel, and especially its unintended consequences.”

    Daniel Goldman- the co-chair of World Bnei Akiva told Haaretz today: “The consensus was that since the vast majority of the countries where Bnei Akiva operates were quite happy with the apology, no vote was needed. We didn’t want to create a split in the movement.”

    Goldman added, however, that the movement’s decision to refrain from a vote on ousting Perel did not represent his own personal view. “My opinion was that he should resign,” he said.

    The British branch of Bnei Akiva threatened earlier this week to withdraw from the movement should Perel be allowed to remain in office. Goldman said he was “pretty confident” that it would not take such a drastic measure.

    In its statement, World Bnei Akiva also urged the movement’s professional leadership “to establish a forum of representatives from around the world to advise on appropriate responses and next steps to address present challenges and to spread our message of love of humanity.

    The Mazkirut Murchevet calls upon the professional leadership to establish an educational team to produce educational materials that accord with these values and that enable encounters between Bnei Akiva participants and wider Israeli society.”
  • i_lov_it
    i_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
    edited July 2014
    I wonder Land Based or Religious based in this Conflict...Yeah I can see this coming to an end Tomorrow and Peace all round...Miracles can happen.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
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    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050

    Since they closed the thread on the porch, I'll post it here.
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=X4ukBCCyczA
    Skip to 4:30 for the tag.

    Put the pj in Israel campaign to bed. Thank you Eddie for speaking out with such passion.

    yeah i saw this. it is good to see ed taking a stand. i love his passion. i think he made it clear that they are not going to israel any time soon.

    there was a pearl jam/israel thread on the porch?? when was this??? i looked at 3 pages of the porch and it wasn't there. maybe the thread got deleted...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    badbrains said:

    Since they closed the thread on the porch, I'll post it here.
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=X4ukBCCyczA
    Skip to 4:30 for the tag.

    Put the pj in Israel campaign to bed. Thank you Eddie for speaking out with such passion.

    Thanks drowned out! Thanks for speaking up and showing conviction. Takes people like you and byrnzie who are NOT afraid to speak out. Who are NOT afraid to voice opinion and share facts. They silenced one and are gonna try to silence you to my friend. And I applaud you Thirty, for jumping in and wanting to know more. Dnt be afraid Thirty to search of answers, to ask questions, to voice your opinion. Much respect for at least wanting to know what's really going on over there. Byrnzie, sorry you were silenced my friend, hopefully we'll keep this up till u get back.

    Oh shit, sorry Gimmie, I forgot to mention U2 buddy! Rod, you've always been popping in and out, awesome bro that u still care about this! So much passion. U guys have no idea what this means to Palestinians all around the world to have people like you guys spreading information and speaking out against what's happening to them. Awesome.
    yeah man, i don't spend so much time on here anymore. but i lurk, and i will always try to keep up with the israel/palestine conflict. i will always make my position known and post information if i have it or run across it on the news sites. it has been a big interest of mine since 2009. i had a g/f who was trying to get into gaza in a humanitarian role after we split up back in 2010. last i talked to her was during the blockade and she did not get in. the blockade got lifted and i don't know if she ever got there or not. but every time i hear of violence in gaza, i always look for her name when the victims' names are published. just out of habit i guess. her and i don't speak anymore, so i guess i will never ever know.

    fact is, i have learned a lot on this forum. from guys like yourself, byrnzie, drowned out, and posters who don't come around anymore for whatever reason. i have even learned from yosi and some of the other israelis who no longer post on here.

    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056

    Since they closed the thread on the porch, I'll post it here.
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=X4ukBCCyczA
    Skip to 4:30 for the tag.

    Put the pj in Israel campaign to bed. Thank you Eddie for speaking out with such passion.

    yeah i saw this. it is good to see ed taking a stand. i love his passion. i think he made it clear that they are not going to israel any time soon.

    there was a pearl jam/israel thread on the porch?? when was this??? i looked at 3 pages of the porch and it wasn't there. maybe the thread got deleted...
    http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/229096/hear-the-fans-bring-pearl-jam-to-israel#latest

    Started around the time that cover of alive was released. The op abandoned the thread eventually. I repeatedly asked this of their movement, to no response:

    I have a question for the PJ Play Israel organizers....
    Would you issue a statement denouncing the discrimmination of your government against Palestinians? Would you at least symbolically show a Palestinian flag as a show of solidarity in one of your youtube vids? Or are we just paying lip service to the notion that you are peaceful and do not support your government's actions?

    Ed's statement was so powerful, much respect.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050

    Since they closed the thread on the porch, I'll post it here.
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=X4ukBCCyczA
    Skip to 4:30 for the tag.

    Put the pj in Israel campaign to bed. Thank you Eddie for speaking out with such passion.

    yeah i saw this. it is good to see ed taking a stand. i love his passion. i think he made it clear that they are not going to israel any time soon.

    there was a pearl jam/israel thread on the porch?? when was this??? i looked at 3 pages of the porch and it wasn't there. maybe the thread got deleted...
    http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/229096/hear-the-fans-bring-pearl-jam-to-israel#latest

    Started around the time that cover of alive was released. The op abandoned the thread eventually. I repeatedly asked this of their movement, to no response:

    I have a question for the PJ Play Israel organizers....
    Would you issue a statement denouncing the discrimmination of your government against Palestinians? Would you at least symbolically show a Palestinian flag as a show of solidarity in one of your youtube vids? Or are we just paying lip service to the notion that you are peaceful and do not support your government's actions?

    Ed's statement was so powerful, much respect.
    yeah i stayed out of that one. i thought it was a cool idea, but i knew it would never work.

    ed knew exactly what he was saying. i hope he continues to speak out.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478

    Since they closed the thread on the porch, I'll post it here.
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=X4ukBCCyczA
    Skip to 4:30 for the tag.

    Put the pj in Israel campaign to bed. Thank you Eddie for speaking out with such passion.

    Thanks for posting this. As if there was any doubt where they stood on this.

  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    Wow, yea, Ed not only put that issue to rest, he buried it in the ground and dumped a ton of concrete over it.
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    edited July 2014

    Since they closed the thread on the porch, I'll post it here.
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=X4ukBCCyczA
    Skip to 4:30 for the tag.

    Put the pj in Israel campaign to bed. Thank you Eddie for speaking out with such passion.

    Pretty fucken obvious where Ed stands and thanks for finally having the balls to attach your name to this conflict Ed! Wow, I wonder if he's gonna get any backlash now. Wow, NO DOUBT what side he's on, holyshit, I'm in shock. Someone as big as Ed to do this, unreal!!! Thanks again eddie and drowned out for posting!!!

    And the look and anger in eds eyes, speaking from the heart. There's a thread on the forum that asks "what's so great about Ed"-well, there's your answer. He has huge big balls and isn't afraid to speak out!
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367

    Wow, yea, Ed not only put that issue to rest, he buried it in the ground and dumped a ton of concrete over it.

    Great to see Eddie bring attention to this - regardless of the side he's on, hopefully it'll implore people who see/saw this to research the topic and make their own conclusions. At the end of the day, everyone's entitled to their own position on the matter.
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  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    benjs said:

    Wow, yea, Ed not only put that issue to rest, he buried it in the ground and dumped a ton of concrete over it.

    Great to see Eddie bring attention to this - regardless of the side he's on, hopefully it'll implore people who see/saw this to research the topic and make their own conclusions. At the end of the day, everyone's entitled to their own position on the matter.
    Yup, and we all know where HE STANDS on this topic. No doubt there.
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