THE WALKING DEAD...and all things zombie

PearlJamaholic said:

Gonna have to agree with what I heard someone say early, Beth is not dinner. The people at Terminus wait for people to come to them, they don't go out hunting for people. Whoever took Beth doesn't fit Terminus' MO. Maybe Beth will be part of freeing Rick's group.

Must say I was surprised no one died from the group.

The worst part about this plot line is that we know they will eventually get free. Maybe not all will live, but the group will be free. Terminus is setting up another showdown that will take a season to develop. I really wish they would dive more into what is actually causing the outbreak and what is going on in the world around their area. I do look forward to seeing how the Terminus people are living and what their story is.

The scene in the woods was epic. One of the series' best IMO.

I enjoyed most of the season finale, and I love the idea of introducing cannibals. But I don't think the finale was quite what it could have been. The whole "Rick needs to be a farmer so he doesn't turn into a monster!" thing felt odd, especially considering they haven't touched on that for, what, most of the season? As such, the flashbacks seemed a bit out of place.

Like most of you have commented, I was surprised no one of importance died. But I'm guessing during the Great Cannibal Breakout of Fall '14, there will be at least a couple high-profile deaths.

And is it just me, or was Rick and company pretty stupid all going in to Terminus together? I mean, if they were smart enough to bury some weapons, you'd think they'd be smart enough to have Michonne or Daryl hang back out of sight.

Also, hysterical: When the group first comes into Terminus, the leader guy noted "Albert must must be on perimeter." What? One guy for the entire perimeter? Give Albert a break -- Terminus is a big place!

rival. said:

kw18 said:

Also, hysterical: When the group first comes into Terminus, the leader guy noted "Albert must must be on perimeter." What? One guy for the entire perimeter? Give Albert a break -- Terminus is a big place!

hahaha, i was thinking that too. "fuck, they are really throwing albert under the bus here." but then as the group got chased through terminus and back outside by the train cart there were like 20 people lining the fence with automatic weapons? where were they when rick/michonne/carl were scooping terminus out from outside the permiter?

one thing i thought of... rick is the only one besides glenn that knows tara was with the governor's group when they stormed the prison, right? being locked up in a train cart awaiting to be the cannibal's next feast is enough drama, but i wouldn't be surprised if tara's true "origins" so to speak gets revealed and causes a riff between everyone. especially glenn and maggie as glenn lied to her and said he picked her up on the way.

The whole thing about Albert and then the guys at the back fence made me think they had to have allowed Rick and Company to breach the perimeter. But if that was the case, then they would have spotted them burying the gun cache (so close to the fence? Why?). So my guess is Albert was in charge of perimeter watch, which means he has a small group of people under his command, and they as a whole screwed up (but the guy in charge got blamed).

Also, I'm guessing all those people lined up outside the fence were the perimeter folks who just converged at that location. It was pretty clear the snipers were directing Rick and Company there, after all, and in that time the perimeter cannibals got to their locations.

Hmmm ... I hadn't really considered the issue of Tara's association with the Gov coming up again. I'm guessing no. If it does, I suspect it'll be similar to the Carol and Tyrese scene, or it'll come out right before or right after sacrificing herself to save everyone. One of the two.

stickfig13 said:

The Terminus chase scene was ridiculous. I realize they were missing the group on purpose with the bullets to lead them where they wanted them. but the group wouldn't be able to figure out the path of the bullets.

Yeah, at first it reminded me of some dumb 80's drama where tons of bullets are shot but nobody actually gets shot/killed (very A-Team hahahaha!) but then as it happened I remembered Rick teaching Carl about the rabbit snare... "You need to guide them towards the trap" Then the cheesiness of it went away as I realized they were forcing them towards the rail car.
I think the show missed out on the opportunity to keep an interesting character around in Joe.

Clearly Tyrese and Carol are going to get them out....somehow. Not sure how that'll work as the people in Terminus have significantly more firepower than Carol's revolver and Tyrese's hammer.

I for one did not like the flashbacks. In a way it seemed like the writing didn't give the viewer enough credit. Did they have to show how Rick put down his gun to grow crops? We all know this! They had multiple shows to deliver this message. I felt it was a waste when the focus could have been placed elsewhere...on perhaps a better cliffhanger.

Oh well, overall I thought it was a solid episode. I just really hope they change it up next year. I'd much prefer to see a darker, more subtle approach whereby allowing the viewer to question not the obvious but the unknown.

I was talking to a friend about The Walking Dead. He's pretty much a super-fan and gets pissed off at me if I question anything. Anyways, I made the analogy that this show is more or less "comfort food". Nothing complex, deep or nuanced...yet something that is insipidly satisfying.

Thought it was a weak season (with some good bits) but solid finale (with the exception of the last line of the episode by Rick)

Andrew J. West who portrays Gareth has been promoted to series regular for next season along with two other additions in Alanna Masterson as Tara and Christian Serratos as Rosita.

http://guardianlv.com/2014/03/the-walking-dead-season-5-cast-additions-kirkman-talks/

Looks like the Terminus storyline may play out for awhile

so are these guys worse than The Governor?

mca47 said:

Bronx Bombers said:

Andrew J. West who portrays Gareth has been promoted to series regular for next season along with two other additions in Alanna Masterson as Tara and Christian Serratos as Rosita.

http://guardianlv.com/2014/03/the-walking-dead-season-5-cast-additions-kirkman-talks/

Looks like the Terminus storyline may play out for awhile

Ugh!
Don't like the sound of that!

Not sure what else they can do. The wandering around in the woods episodes aren't always that great either. I still think the problem with the show is that it doesn't appear to be moving towards anything or have any kind of endgame.

Better Dan said:

mca47 said:

Bronx Bombers said:

Andrew J. West who portrays Gareth has been promoted to series regular for next season along with two other additions in Alanna Masterson as Tara and Christian Serratos as Rosita.

http://guardianlv.com/2014/03/the-walking-dead-season-5-cast-additions-kirkman-talks/

Looks like the Terminus storyline may play out for awhile

Ugh!
Don't like the sound of that!

Not sure what else they can do. The wandering around in the woods episodes aren't always that great either. I still think the problem with the show is that it doesn't appear to be moving towards anything or have any kind of endgame.

That's sort of the issue with the show and the comic: Rick and Company are lost in the wilderness, find sanctuary, it all goes to hell, repeat.

What keeps the show (and the comic) afloat is the character development that happens throughout. If you have an episode (or a run of episodes) with weak character development, then the entire show suffers.

I'm interested to see how Rick and the group react to their current situation. How far are they willing to go to, um, not be eaten? They've provided mercy in the past -- is that off the table here for all involved? Will they take over Terminus and slaughter them all? Or try to turn some of the cannibals into allies? Can cannibals be sympathetic? Or will Rick's group just want to run away?

It's the group's reaction I'm really interested in seeing. Rick has embraced the monster inside, and clearly Carl has as well. Will the rest do so, too?

curly said:

Riverrunner said:

And why didn't Daryl tell Rick that Beth was kidnapped? What's with all the secrecy? "Just gone." Really Daryl?

I initially thought the same thing with "just gone".....then I figured Dary's still pretty shook up about it and I'm pretty sure Rick understood Daryl's vibe and feels he explain when the time is right..... IMO...

Yeah, I agree with you, Curly. Plus, in Daryl's mind, she is "just gone." Maybe she's dead, maybe she's kidnapped, maybe she's found sanctuary. But at that moment, all Daryl knows and wanted to get into was that she was "just gone."

Makes sense to me.