What's so bad about Creed?

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  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    Treyert14 said:

    So nobody here liked Creed when they first came out? Cause I kinda feel like alot of the hate towards them comes from overplay.

    They weren't really over played here in the UK. Like I said, to me it sounds like a watered down, safe version of what a load of bands before them did.
  • buck502000
    buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
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  • Treyert14
    Treyert14 Louisiana Posts: 924
    facepollution said:

    Treyert14 said:

    So nobody here liked Creed when they first came out? Cause I kinda feel like alot of the hate towards them comes from overplay.

    They weren't really over played here in the UK. Like I said, to me it sounds like a watered down, safe version of what a load of bands before them did.
    But who sounded like Creed before them?
  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    Treyert14 said:

    facepollution said:

    Treyert14 said:

    So nobody here liked Creed when they first came out? Cause I kinda feel like alot of the hate towards them comes from overplay.

    They weren't really over played here in the UK. Like I said, to me it sounds like a watered down, safe version of what a load of bands before them did.
    But who sounded like Creed before them?
    Specifically I think they sound like they borrowed from Alice In Chains and Pearl Jam.

  • Treyert14
    Treyert14 Louisiana Posts: 924
    facepollution said:

    Treyert14 said:

    facepollution said:

    Treyert14 said:

    So nobody here liked Creed when they first came out? Cause I kinda feel like alot of the hate towards them comes from overplay.

    They weren't really over played here in the UK. Like I said, to me it sounds like a watered down, safe version of what a load of bands before them did.
    But who sounded like Creed before them?
    Specifically I think they sound like they borrowed from Alice In Chains and Pearl Jam.

    Man. I don't see how you can say that? I kinda find the first album did but not the others. But even if they did isn't that what playing music is about? Taking part of somebody's music and kinda making it your own. And I don't mean like steal there idea but just let them influence you. You know what I'm saying?
  • TheseGoToEleven
    TheseGoToEleven Charlotte, NC Posts: 106
    I still find this one funny (behind the "Shreds" meme in case this really confuses you: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/x-shreds)

    http://youtu.be/ms61I54CeQA
    [i]Well, it's one louder, isn't it? It's not ten. You see, most blokes, you know, will be playing at ten. You're on ten here, all the way up, all the way up, all the way up, you're on ten on your guitar. Where can you go from there? Where?[/i]
  • drlovemonkey
    drlovemonkey Posts: 394
    Treyert14 said:

    So nobody here liked Creed when they first came out? Cause I kinda feel like alot of the hate towards them comes from overplay.

    I loved the 1st cd. But then With Arms Wide Open happened - I have never in my life been so sick of a song being played on the radio. And the more popular they got, the more I saw of them in interviews - and Scott Stapp came off as so fake and insincere to me.

    But to be completely honest, I still will listen to the 1st CD from time to time. Torn is still an all time for me.

  • EarlWelsh
    EarlWelsh Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,127
    I didn't realize anyone even still thought about this band.
  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    Treyert14 said:

    facepollution said:

    Treyert14 said:

    facepollution said:

    Treyert14 said:

    So nobody here liked Creed when they first came out? Cause I kinda feel like alot of the hate towards them comes from overplay.

    They weren't really over played here in the UK. Like I said, to me it sounds like a watered down, safe version of what a load of bands before them did.
    But who sounded like Creed before them?
    Specifically I think they sound like they borrowed from Alice In Chains and Pearl Jam.

    Man. I don't see how you can say that? I kinda find the first album did but not the others. But even if they did isn't that what playing music is about? Taking part of somebody's music and kinda making it your own. And I don't mean like steal there idea but just let them influence you. You know what I'm saying?
    I know what you're saying but that's the problem, they did nothing new or inspiring with their influences. They jumped on a bandwagon and got lucky because that bandwagon's big hitters were all pretty much self-destructing. If anything they got worse as they went on because they took anything good about that early Seattle sound and essentially neutered it to cater to radio play.

    You might not like or agree with my point of view, but this is basically the crux of why so many people don't like Creed - overplaying probably didn't help their cause, but the general consensus is that they brought nothing new to the table.

    There was a music documentary series called Metal Evolution, and one episode focused on 'grunge', they interviewed a bunch of the Seattle musicians who all basically said what I've written. They also interviewed Stapp and Tremonti and the guys from Nickelback, and asked their feelings on the debate. Naturally they thought they brought something original and new.

    Aside from my own thoughts, it just doesn't seem that these kind of bands are looked back on as fondly as the early 90's bands, make of that what you will.



  • Treyert14
    Treyert14 Louisiana Posts: 924
    facepollution said:

    Treyert14 said:

    facepollution said:

    Treyert14 said:

    facepollution said:

    Treyert14 said:

    So nobody here liked Creed when they first came out? Cause I kinda feel like alot of the hate towards them comes from overplay.

    They weren't really over played here in the UK. Like I said, to me it sounds like a watered down, safe version of what a load of bands before them did.
    But who sounded like Creed before them?
    Specifically I think they sound like they borrowed from Alice In Chains and Pearl Jam.

    Man. I don't see how you can say that? I kinda find the first album did but not the others. But even if they did isn't that what playing music is about? Taking part of somebody's music and kinda making it your own. And I don't mean like steal there idea but just let them influence you. You know what I'm saying?
    I know what you're saying but that's the problem, they did nothing new or inspiring with their influences. They jumped on a bandwagon and got lucky because that bandwagon's big hitters were all pretty much self-destructing. If anything they got worse as they went on because they took anything good about that early Seattle sound and essentially neutered it to cater to radio play.

    You might not like or agree with my point of view, but this is basically the crux of why so many people don't like Creed - overplaying probably didn't help their cause, but the general consensus is that they brought nothing new to the table.

    There was a music documentary series called Metal Evolution, and one episode focused on 'grunge', they interviewed a bunch of the Seattle musicians who all basically said what I've written. They also interviewed Stapp and Tremonti and the guys from Nickelback, and asked their feelings on the debate. Naturally they thought they brought something original and new.

    Aside from my own thoughts, it just doesn't seem that these kind of bands are looked back on as fondly as the early 90's bands, make of that what you will.




    Yea man if that's your feelings then ok! Lol but I definitely do agree that they can't touch any of the real Seattle bands and I definitely don't think there grunge. I just think there rock music. But I like Creed.
  • monkeypimp
    monkeypimp Posts: 43
    edited March 2014
    I thought the first album was pretty good and overplay made me basically despise them. When they came to town to play i didn't really care to see them but Sevendust was opening and I love Sevendust so I decided to go to the show. I left the concert loving Creed. Their music, while artistically not that amazing , was very crowd empowering and the energy was amazing. I have been to lots of concerts and I have yet to feel exactly the same type of energy. Don't get me wrong its not my favorite show of all time or anything it just had this intangible element that made the energy at the show great.

    I like Creed....Scott Stapp is a douche but I like the music.
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  • Treyert14
    Treyert14 Louisiana Posts: 924
    monkeypimp said:

    I thought the first album was pretty good and overplay made me basically despise them. When they came to town to play i didn't really care to see them but Sevendust was opening and I love Sevendust so I decided to go to the show. I left the concert loving Creed. Their music, while artistically not that amazing , was very crowd empowering and the energy was amazing. I have been to lots of concerts and I have yet to feel exactly the same type of energy. Don't get me wrong its not my favorite show of all time or anything it just had this intangible element that made the energy at the show great.

    I like Creed....Scott Stapp is a douche but I like the music.

    Yea man I know what you mean I saw them also not in there prime though but I really enjoyed there show. How was Sevendust?
  • monkeypimp
    monkeypimp Posts: 43
    Sevendust was amazing. But Creed blew them away!
  • Treyert14
    Treyert14 Louisiana Posts: 924
    monkeypimp said:

    Sevendust was amazing. But Creed blew them away!

    Wasn't expecting to hear that here lol
  • monkeypimp
    monkeypimp Posts: 43
    Treyert14 said:

    monkeypimp said:

    Sevendust was amazing. But Creed blew them away!

    Wasn't expecting to hear that here lol
    I definitely wasn't expecting it to happen when it did. Trust me when I left the show I was flabbergasted. Now don't get me wrong. I still listen to Sevendust on a semi frequent basis and I haven't played a creed song in a long time. Sevendust is clearly the better band but live.... Creed just had something special with all of the hit songs they had. And it made for an amazing experience.

  • 63schoefflin
    63schoefflin Posts: 2,581
    As big of a joke as Creed is, their first cd was actually good. Or at least I thought it was because everyone else in grade school did as well. There were a bunch of bands I liked but as I got older and realized all of the crazy good music out there, Creed seems to get even worse and more laughable now. Mark is actually talented but I think it's just that Stapp is a clown and they got caught up with partying every night and they mailed it in on their records and shows.

    With that being said... I would probably do the same thing so I'm not criticizing, just saying. If I hit it big with my boys in a band, shit would hit the fan especially if people were still buying albums.

    Oh, and Creed Shreds has been #1 on my YouTube power ranking of greatest videos for about 4 years running now.
    '08- Camden 1-2   '09- Chicago 2; Spectrum 1-4
    '10- MSG 1-2   '11- PJ20
    '12- MIA; DeLuna '13- Wrigley; Pitt; Brooklyn 1-2; Philly 1-2; Baltimore; Seattle
    '14- Denver   '16- Philly 1-2; MSG 2
    '17- Pilgrimage Music Fest (Eddie)
    '18- Fenway
  • cornnifer
    cornnifer Posts: 2,130
    Like what you like and don't be ashamed of it. That being said, every artist is influenced by other artists. To say that creed was "influenced" by certain "grunge" bands, is an understatement of historical proportions, however. Plagiarism is probably more accurate. Again, if you like it, if it pleases you, rock that shit, but to answer the original question, i think many people dislike creed because it is the opinion of many that they kinda suck and Scott Stapp is a bit of a tool. (not to be compared to the band tool as they were/are pretty fuckin sweet!) :)
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • Treyert14
    Treyert14 Louisiana Posts: 924
    cornnifer said:

    Like what you like and don't be ashamed of it. That being said, every artist is influenced by other artists. To say that creed was "influenced" by certain "grunge" bands, is an understatement of historical proportions, however. Plagiarism is probably more accurate. Again, if you like it, if it pleases you, rock that shit, but to answer the original question, i think many people dislike creed because it is the opinion of many that they kinda suck and Scott Stapp is a bit of a tool. (not to be compared to the band tool as they were/are pretty fuckin sweet!) :)


    I'm not ashamed at all lol but I still disagree with people saying there rip offs of grunge bands I don't think Scott sounds anything like Eddie (he wishes) and I don't think Creed sounds anything like AIC or PJ. Thanks for your positive input man!
  • EarlWelsh
    EarlWelsh Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,127
    Just my humble opinion, but you asked so....here goes....

    Creed embodies everything that's wrong or could possibly go wrong with mainstream-bro-rock music.

    1. Shirts with flames on them and leather pants
    2. Melted-Swiss-cheesy-as-fuck riffs played with the appropriate I'm-rocking-so-hard-that-it-hurts faces
    3. Watered down, unoriginal tunes. I'm sorry, but mashing together AiC's Rooster and PJ's Alive and covering with spitshine from a corporate shit eating grin doesn't make it anything but shit worth flushing.

    Oh, and top all of that with poorly written songs about god. Sorry, but they're the worst, or at least they're up there pretty far.

    To each his own, though. All music is there for someone to enjoy. Liking Creed is a tough job but someone's gotta do it.
  • Treyert14
    Treyert14 Louisiana Posts: 924
    edited March 2014
    EarlWelsh said:

    Just my humble opinion, but you asked so....here goes....

    Creed embodies everything that's wrong or could possibly go wrong with mainstream-bro-rock music.

    1. Shirts with flames on them and leather pants
    2. Melted-Swiss-cheesy-as-fuck riffs played with the appropriate I'm-rocking-so-hard-that-it-hurts faces
    3. Watered down, unoriginal tunes. I'm sorry, but mashing together AiC's Rooster and PJ's Alive and covering with spitshine from a corporate shit eating grin doesn't make it anything but shit worth flushing.

    Oh, and top all of that with poorly written songs about god. Sorry, but they're the worst, or at least they're up there pretty far.

    To each his own, though. All music is there for someone to enjoy. Liking Creed is a tough job but someone's gotta do it.


    Melted-Swiss-cheesy- as-f? What does that even mean? Lol and what's this Rooster and Alive combo? What song is that?

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