What's so bad about Creed?

Treyert14
Treyert14 Louisiana Posts: 924
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I am a huge fan of the band Creed. I think Mark Tremonti is actually a better musician then McCready. But I do think Eds got Stapp beat by along slide lol but why all the hate on Creed???
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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    I'll bite....

    Well, Creed plays boring, derivative, paint by numbers music. And comparing the guy that's by far the best musician in his band with probably the weakest musician in PJ isn't the best way to back up your claim.
  • Treyert14
    Treyert14 Louisiana Posts: 924
    DewieCox said:

    I'll bite....

    Well, Creed plays boring, derivative, paint by numbers music. And comparing the guy that's by far the best musician in his band with probably the weakest musician in PJ isn't the best way to back up your claim.



    Well first McCready is definitely not the weakest member of PJ lol. But I don't understand how Creed is boring I find when they came out they had brought a great new sound to rock music. What would you say makes them boring?
  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,461
    Not everything has to be so dynamic & unique. All music is derivative IMO & sometimes that can be fun! I consider myself a music nerd and have all sorts of pointed views on the matter - now Creed? Not my cuppa' - but Hootie and the Blowfish? There is a great band who got swept up into record contracts because baritone lead singers were all the rage until ??
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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    Treyert14 said:

    DewieCox said:

    I'll bite....

    Well, Creed plays boring, derivative, paint by numbers music. And comparing the guy that's by far the best musician in his band with probably the weakest musician in PJ isn't the best way to back up your claim.



    Well first McCready is definitely not the weakest member of PJ lol. But I don't understand how Creed is boring I find when they came out they had brought a great new sound to rock music. What would you say makes them boring?
    Well, a pretty good argument could be made for McCready being the weakest, but nobody with any musical knowledge would make an argument for any other member of Creed.

    They basically took the touchstones of what made "grunge" popular and wrote very formulaic music with it. There was nothing new about the songs they wrote.

  • Treyert14
    Treyert14 Louisiana Posts: 924
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  • Treyert14
    Treyert14 Louisiana Posts: 924
    DewieCox said:

    Treyert14 said:

    DewieCox said:

    I'll bite....

    Well, Creed plays boring, derivative, paint by numbers music. And comparing the guy that's by far the best musician in his band with probably the weakest musician in PJ isn't the best way to back up your claim.



    Well first McCready is definitely not the weakest member of PJ lol. But I don't understand how Creed is boring I find when they came out they had brought a great new sound to rock music. What would you say makes them boring?
    Well, a pretty good argument could be made for McCready being the weakest, but nobody with any musical knowledge would make an argument for any other member of Creed.

    They basically took the touchstones of what made "grunge" popular and wrote very formulaic music with it. There was nothing new about the songs they wrote.



    Well when they first started with there first album they had a grunge sound.
    But when they got up to weathered and human clay they were watered down a bit but I can't think of any other band that resembled Creed before there time. Which made Creed new, and different.
  • Treyert14
    Treyert14 Louisiana Posts: 924
    2-feign-reluctance said:

    Not everything has to be so dynamic & unique. All music is derivative IMO & sometimes that can be fun! I consider myself a music nerd and have all sorts of pointed views on the matter - now Creed? Not my cuppa' - but Hootie and the Blowfish? There is a great band who got swept up into record contracts because baritone lead singers were all the rage until ??

    I definitely agree! Hootie and the Blowfish is great!
  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    Mark Tremonti was never considered to be a particulalry remarkable guitarist when he was in Creed, it was only when he cut loose in Alter Bridge that people started paying attention.

    For me, Creed was pure pastiche, topped off by Stapp's awful Eddie Vedder impression - there is nothing natural sounding about his voice at all.

    Creed essentially got big because Pearl Jam had had enough of being famous, Alice In Chains had dropped off the radar and Soundgarden had just split up - record companies wanted to fill the void, and the new generation of rock fans probably weren't quite old enough to have seen or heard the original Seattle bands, so the disparity in quality was probably not so apparent to them.

    Obviously Creed had a knack for writing catchy songs that did well on the radio and sold well, but they did not do with their influences what the early Seattle bands did with theirs.
  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,801
    Treyert14 said:

    DewieCox said:



    But I don't understand how Creed is boring I find when they came out they had brought a great new sound to rock music.


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  • Treyert14
    Treyert14 Louisiana Posts: 924
    eeriepadave said:

    Treyert14 said:

    DewieCox said:



    But I don't understand how Creed is boring I find when they came out they had brought a great new sound to rock music.


    =)) Quote of the year right there

    Name a band that had Creeds sound before them. Lol
  • TheseGoToEleven
    TheseGoToEleven Charlotte, NC Posts: 106
    Alter Bridge proves Creed deserved every bit of the flak they took for being stale derivatives of not just other music, but even themselves after their first album. Tremonti himself is a riff machine, and I love his AB work.
    [i]Well, it's one louder, isn't it? It's not ten. You see, most blokes, you know, will be playing at ten. You're on ten here, all the way up, all the way up, all the way up, you're on ten on your guitar. Where can you go from there? Where?[/i]
  • Treyert14
    Treyert14 Louisiana Posts: 924
    TheseGoToEleven said:

    Alter Bridge proves Creed deserved every bit of the flak they took for being stale derivatives of not just other music, but even themselves after their first album. Tremonti himself is a riff machine, and I love his AB work.

    Well it was only there 2 middle albums that kind of repeated themselves. But there first and last albums were unique to me. And yes Tremonti is a beast. Lol but I can't stand Miles Kennedy I'll listen to Scott any day but can't do Miles lol
  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    Wow, you would take Stapp over Myles Kennedy? OK, whatever butters your muffin......
  • shortstack
    shortstack Posts: 2,339
    DewieCox said:



    They basically took the touchstones of what made "grunge" popular and wrote very formulaic music with it. There was nothing new about the songs they wrote.

    wasn't it actually labeled "grunge-lite"?

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  • Treyert14
    Treyert14 Louisiana Posts: 924
    facepollution said:

    Wow, you would take Stapp over Myles Kennedy? OK, whatever butters your muffin......

    I understand Myles voice is more dynamic, but I just can't stand his voice and the way he sings.
  • Treyert14
    Treyert14 Louisiana Posts: 924
    edited March 2014
    facepollution said:

    Wow, you would take Stapp over Myles Kennedy? OK, whatever butters your muffin......


    Just like Dio was obviously the better singer but I think we all preferred Ozzy for Black Sabbath right?
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    I just don't like their music.
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  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    Treyert14 said:

    facepollution said:

    Wow, you would take Stapp over Myles Kennedy? OK, whatever butters your muffin......


    Just like Dio was obviously the better singer but I think we all preferred Ozzy for Black Sabbath right?
    But Myles doesn't sing any Creed stuff.......



  • Treyert14
    Treyert14 Louisiana Posts: 924
    facepollution said:

    Treyert14 said:

    facepollution said:

    Wow, you would take Stapp over Myles Kennedy? OK, whatever butters your muffin......


    Just like Dio was obviously the better singer but I think we all preferred Ozzy for Black Sabbath right?
    But Myles doesn't sing any Creed stuff.......



    Eh. I guess your right. Lol
  • Treyert14
    Treyert14 Louisiana Posts: 924
    So nobody here liked Creed when they first came out? Cause I kinda feel like alot of the hate towards them comes from overplay.

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