*New update from Nugs*

EdsonNascimento said:

High Fidelity 2000 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

JF110284 said:

There mere fact that PJ makes each show (almost) available for us is awesome, given that that they don't need to do that. And the fact that Nugs stepped up to give free mp3 downloads in the meanwhile was a solid move - they were under no obligation to do that either. So, before complaining, just ask yourself "what would Louis say?"

PS - I still don't have my boots ordered 12/27...

You guys make it sound like PJ invented this. Allman Brothers and tons of other bands have pretty much every show available and have for years. Black Crowes have shows ready usually less than a week after. It's not that tough. I'm generally on the side of laying back but this is a clear service issue that needs to be addressed.

I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure PJ pretty much DID invent this. 2000 tour. It was pretty much unprecedented at that point in time that a band released live recordings of their entire tours.

The price is not bad for a bootleg, but considering they are CD-R it's not great. I haven't ordered any new ones but aren't they CD-R again? Kufala used to say they guaranteed their CDRs for the life of the company or something like that... well 3 years later there isn't a Kufala, correct?

I think they were first to put them all out commercially, but whatever. I meant the broader bootleg issue.

And, I don't recall anybody saying anything about the price (mainly b/c you're right - vs. other bands they are on the low end).

You seem to be directing arguments where there was no argument.

The issue is they are late for reasons WITHIN their controls (again, not really concerned about a few extra weeks wait myself. It's just the facts) and then in an effort to catch up they are putting out shoddy quality, that again is THEIR control (as proven by the fact that some folks get ok versions of certain shows while others get bad ones). And lastly, it appears the band has delayed releasing other boots b/c of their mess up (don't know this for sure, but seems weird the regular schedule all of a sudden got shelved. Maybe, it was just a contributing factor and not the only factor. But, regardless - it shouldn't be a factor at all).

Sorry, the price comment was in reference to the 11th post down on the 2nd page of this thread, not your quote, I just didn't feel like double quoting. Someone said $17-18 was crazy high for a bootleg. I was thinking about how bootlegs in the 90s used to have shit sound and cost $50 for 2 CDs or $30 for one. $17 isn't bad, BUT they are CDRs and considering that, it's not the same as paying for a pressed CD to a lot of people.

Surely Pearl Jam is not the first band to put out a live album commercially, but as far as recording all their shows and releasing them all, I am pretty sure they DID invent it. Black Crowes probably did it soon after, Phish, Metallica a few years later etc etc... and if anyone wants to research it and tell me that's wrong, feel free, but I am almost positive Pearl Jam "invented" the idea of being able to purchase any show (almost any these days) from an entire tour some time after the concert. No one else did that. Springsteen is apparently going to do a USB wristband bootleg program to download the show shortly after the concert, or something like that. BUT this was the band that basically started the release all live shows for purchase idea.

jge is a pearl jam and ten clu said:

Why did PJ quit using the previous company for the boots?! Nugs is a complete joke. Forget to list songs on boot packaging, ridiculous shipping delays, and now i hear there is space between songs on the Hartford boots. PJ MGT: Are you reading all these customer complaints on the forum about Nugs??? $ 16.98 and $ 17.98 for a boot is crazy to begin with...Then shipping delays....Then quality issues....And the yearly membership we pay for the privelege of dealing with this mess, which is NUGS ?!..

I have not come across these issues yet but I guess I will when I receive the boxset...if this is the case with the tracklist, gaps...that's some bullshit...

THey should reissue it on their own dime to everyone that has purchased the discs...

Why did PJ quit using the previous company for the boots?

Sadly, Kufala went out of business in 2012 when it's founder, leader and my good friend Brady Lahr passed away unexpectedly.

NHiding said:

Why did PJ quit using the previous company for the boots?

Sadly, Kufala went out of business in 2012 when it's founder, leader and my good friend Brady Lahr passed away unexpectedly.

Holy crap I did not know this. Sorry to hear.

Got my shipping confirmation yesterday for Worcester I and Hartford. Ordered it about a month ago

Can someone please update when they will be playing the boots on Sirius again. Just saw the schedule for 1/31 and no 2013 shows are on the schedule again. I never would have ordered that box set if I knew I wasnt getting it until summer. They played 10 shows in 6 weeks and now have 0 in the last 6 weeks. At this rate, will I even get the box set?

Zod said:

I got my Vault #2 and #3 yesterday which I ordered on Black Friday...

They have both of those at my local record store. If anyone else is looking for these two I would look there first.

CDFish said:

Losiento said:

goingtoverona said:

I take it this has nothing to do with stinky danky nugs

I was hoping.

Well, I think it does have to do with dank nugs...clearly they are smoking too much, how else do you explain so many CDs being F'ed up??

Not to mention they took a WEEK off for MLK day and then a mid-winter break. Is this the best option for PJ?

Glitch my ass. When the dude was sitting down on his laptop burning your CD's from the same digital files you can order, he accidentally left he little box that said "include gaps between tracks" checked.