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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    jasonbouchard88 wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    So I saw them last Thursday, and it was a really good show, but I found something REALLY strange. I don't think Trent or anyone else addressed the audience ONCE. Not a word. I guess I might be forgetting a "Hello Vancouver" or something, but I don't think so. So it was more like watching a movie in a way. There was ZERO connection with the crowd as far as I could tell. In fact, their special effect lighting screen or whatever actually dropped in FRONT of the stage and physically blocked them from the audience for a good part of the show. It was fairly alienating. So that is my complaint... and that's a pretty big one. Thinking about a main reason I love PJ live - that connection with the crowd and so much communication - I found the complete lack of any of that from NIN disappointing. Other than that, it was fantastic. Sounded great, looked great! And the crowd was pretty decent for Vancouver.
    I know what you mean. At the Toronto show, Trent said thank you a number of times and the only time he really addressed to the audience was after the first song of the encore Even Deeper. He introduced the band members and he also joked that he's thinking of moving to Canada because the Toronto crowd was great. Less talking, more music. And I prefer it that way in my opinion.

    Long, forced, meandering musings are painful.

    Eddie is one of the more vocal guys with regards to storytelling and I don't mind most of the stuff he tells, but there have been times when he has been spinning bullshit introducing songs.

    Guys like Maynard say very little. This was my first time seeing NIN so I wasn't sure what to expect from Reznor- but I was okay with the level of interaction and the pace of the show.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,754
    jasonbouchard88 wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    So I saw them last Thursday, and it was a really good show, but I found something REALLY strange. I don't think Trent or anyone else addressed the audience ONCE. Not a word. I guess I might be forgetting a "Hello Vancouver" or something, but I don't think so. So it was more like watching a movie in a way. There was ZERO connection with the crowd as far as I could tell. In fact, their special effect lighting screen or whatever actually dropped in FRONT of the stage and physically blocked them from the audience for a good part of the show. It was fairly alienating. So that is my complaint... and that's a pretty big one. Thinking about a main reason I love PJ live - that connection with the crowd and so much communication - I found the complete lack of any of that from NIN disappointing. Other than that, it was fantastic. Sounded great, looked great! And the crowd was pretty decent for Vancouver.
    I know what you mean. At the Toronto show, Trent said thank you a number of times and the only time he really addressed to the audience was after the first song of the encore Even Deeper. He introduced the band members and he also joked that he's thinking of moving to Canada because the Toronto crowd was great. Less talking, more music. And I prefer it that way in my opinion.
    That's a lot more talking that he did in Vancouver. If he'd talked that much, I probably wouldn't have commented (although frankly, and to be fair, I can't remember him introducing the band, but supposedly he did... iI think I must have been in the washroom at the time).
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,754
    Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:
    jasonbouchard88 wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    So I saw them last Thursday, and it was a really good show, but I found something REALLY strange. I don't think Trent or anyone else addressed the audience ONCE. Not a word. I guess I might be forgetting a "Hello Vancouver" or something, but I don't think so. So it was more like watching a movie in a way. There was ZERO connection with the crowd as far as I could tell. In fact, their special effect lighting screen or whatever actually dropped in FRONT of the stage and physically blocked them from the audience for a good part of the show. It was fairly alienating. So that is my complaint... and that's a pretty big one. Thinking about a main reason I love PJ live - that connection with the crowd and so much communication - I found the complete lack of any of that from NIN disappointing. Other than that, it was fantastic. Sounded great, looked great! And the crowd was pretty decent for Vancouver.
    I know what you mean. At the Toronto show, Trent said thank you a number of times and the only time he really addressed to the audience was after the first song of the encore Even Deeper. He introduced the band members and he also joked that he's thinking of moving to Canada because the Toronto crowd was great. Less talking, more music. And I prefer it that way in my opinion.

    Long, forced, meandering musings are painful.

    Eddie is one of the more vocal guys with regards to storytelling and I don't mind most of the stuff he tells, but there have been times when he has been spinning bullshit introducing songs.

    Guys like Maynard say very little. This was my first time seeing NIN so I wasn't sure what to expect from Reznor- but I was okay with the level of interaction and the pace of the show.
    Forced musings are certainly painful. I would rather someone say nothing at all than be forced about it (I have never seen or heard EV forcing anything - I could listen to him talk all day to be honest :lol: ). Anyway, really enjoyed the show, but sticking by my original thoughts on this one. It wasn't just the lack of any kind of communication with the crowd beside introducing the band and saying hi. It was also the fact that for some of the show I could even SEE the band because of the effects screen in front of the stage. Having a physical barrier between the band and the crowd doesn't seem ideal to me. I don't think the light effects created by that screen were worth doing that for the most part (with the exception of the whole part with the laser cube and lines and shit - that was awesome :) ).
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,828
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    Has anyone been reading about how much Trent is doing for a huge NIN fan who has terminal cancer?

    His name is Andrew, and he is a close friend of my wife.

    Trent has invited him to rehearsals, dedicated songs to him during concerts, and even did facetime with him during the NIN show in Las Vegas this past Saturday.

    Trent is a class act!


    Sad to say that Andrew passed-away this past Saturday. :(
  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    Forced musings are certainly painful. I would rather someone say nothing at all than be forced about it (I have never seen or heard EV forcing anything - I could listen to him talk all day to be honest :lol: ). Anyway, really enjoyed the show, but sticking by my original thoughts on this one. It wasn't just the lack of any kind of communication with the crowd beside introducing the band and saying hi. It was also the fact that for some of the show I could even SEE the band because of the effects screen in front of the stage. Having a physical barrier between the band and the crowd doesn't seem ideal to me. I don't think the light effects created by that screen were worth doing that for the most part (with the exception of the whole part with the laser cube and lines and shit - that was awesome :) ).

    :fp: :fp: :fp: :fp:
  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    Has anyone been reading about how much Trent is doing for a huge NIN fan who has terminal cancer?

    His name is Andrew, and he is a close friend of my wife.

    Trent has invited him to rehearsals, dedicated songs to him during concerts, and even did facetime with him during the NIN show in Las Vegas this past Saturday.

    Trent is a class act!


    Sad to say that Andrew passed-away this past Saturday. :(

    Yes, very sad to see that
  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,828
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    Forced musings are certainly painful. I would rather someone say nothing at all than be forced about it (I have never seen or heard EV forcing anything - I could listen to him talk all day to be honest :lol: ). Anyway, really enjoyed the show, but sticking by my original thoughts on this one. It wasn't just the lack of any kind of communication with the crowd beside introducing the band and saying hi. It was also the fact that for some of the show I could even SEE the band because of the effects screen in front of the stage. Having a physical barrier between the band and the crowd doesn't seem ideal to me. I don't think the light effects created by that screen were worth doing that for the most part (with the exception of the whole part with the laser cube and lines and shit - that was awesome :) ).

    :fp: :fp: :fp: :fp:


    Suppose NIN had huge, swinging light bulbs on stage that the band members knocked around.....would you like that? :lol:
  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    Forced musings are certainly painful. I would rather someone say nothing at all than be forced about it (I have never seen or heard EV forcing anything - I could listen to him talk all day to be honest :lol: ). Anyway, really enjoyed the show, but sticking by my original thoughts on this one. It wasn't just the lack of any kind of communication with the crowd beside introducing the band and saying hi. It was also the fact that for some of the show I could even SEE the band because of the effects screen in front of the stage. Having a physical barrier between the band and the crowd doesn't seem ideal to me. I don't think the light effects created by that screen were worth doing that for the most part (with the exception of the whole part with the laser cube and lines and shit - that was awesome :) ).

    :fp: :fp: :fp: :fp:


    Suppose NIN had huge, swinging light bulbs on stage that the band members knocked around.....would you like that? :lol:

    No, because it wouldn't seem right for a Nine Inch Nails production. :lol:
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,526
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    Suppose NIN had huge, swinging light bulbs on stage that the band members knocked around.....would you like that? :lol:

    No, because it wouldn't seem right for a Nine Inch Nails production. :lol:

    In 2007, they had hanging lightbulbs that they swung around... But Trent did not have one specially made to stand on and swing from.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    edited December 2013
    Spiritual_Chaos wrote:
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    Suppose NIN had huge, swinging light bulbs on stage that the band members knocked around.....would you like that? :lol:

    No, because it wouldn't seem right for a Nine Inch Nails production. :lol:

    In 2007, they had hanging lightbulbs that they swung around... But Trent did not have one specially made to stand on and swing from.

    :lol:

    Lame... but of course... :lol:
    Post edited by peacefrompaul on
  • Digital Twilight
    Digital Twilight Posts: 5,642
    "90-minute NIN Tension 2013 concert film will premiere on Thursday 12/5 @ 12p ET only on VEVO apps and YouTube.com/NineInchNailsVEVO!"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdxvFZ12tdM
  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    Digital Twilight wrote:
    "90-minute NIN Tension 2013 concert film will premiere on Thursday 12/5 @ 12p ET only on VEVO apps and YouTube.com/NineInchNailsVEVO!"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdxvFZ12tdM

    :!:
  • Digital Twilight
    Digital Twilight Posts: 5,642
    Looks like the footage released today (about 80mins) is for a dvd/blu ray to be released in the spring.

    Also Trent has said they have plans for a North America tour in 2014.
  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    Digital Twilight wrote:
    Looks like the footage released today (about 80mins) is for a dvd/blu ray to be released in the spring.

    Also Trent has said they have plans for a North America tour in 2014.

    Could I snag the link from you?
  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    Wait, I have the video now... where did trent say a North America 2014 tour?
  • Digital Twilight
    Digital Twilight Posts: 5,642
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    Wait, I have the video now... where did trent say a North America 2014 tour?

    Full quote:

    'Here are some thoughts on touring: When we commit to a touring cycle, it usually is at least a year long, and can start to feel stale after X amount of time. What I'm doing this cycle is making each leg of the tour have its own identity. The festival run we did over the summer was very different from the Tension tour we just finished. We're currently rehearsing with a new incarnation of the band for what's ahead. This keeps things fresh from a musician's perspective, but also keeps things interesting for fans in an era where every show ends up on YouTube.

    The setlist and presentation moving forward will be very different from what we just did. That's part of the incentive behind releasing the Tension footage now. That was one very specific look at Nine Inch Nails in the Fall of 2013, that I wanted the whole world to be able to see (just like you can see the festival footage on YouTube, which was its own thing). Yes, we are planning to return to North America in 2014...'
  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    Digital Twilight wrote:
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    Wait, I have the video now... where did trent say a North America 2014 tour?

    Full quote:

    'Here are some thoughts on touring: When we commit to a touring cycle, it usually is at least a year long, and can start to feel stale after X amount of time. What I'm doing this cycle is making each leg of the tour have its own identity. The festival run we did over the summer was very different from the Tension tour we just finished. We're currently rehearsing with a new incarnation of the band for what's ahead. This keeps things fresh from a musician's perspective, but also keeps things interesting for fans in an era where every show ends up on YouTube.

    The setlist and presentation moving forward will be very different from what we just did. That's part of the incentive behind releasing the Tension footage now. That was one very specific look at Nine Inch Nails in the Fall of 2013, that I wanted the whole world to be able to see (just like you can see the festival footage on YouTube, which was its own thing). Yes, we are planning to return to North America in 2014...'

    THANKS! I just found it and was going to post
  • ldent42
    ldent42 NYC Posts: 7,859
    Theyre doing the Australia with QOTSA in March-ish I think? and then the UK in May... so Summer back in the US?
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  • llessuR
    llessuR Posts: 195
    I saw Trent two weeks ago in Spokane, great show. The lighting set and effects were some of the most impressive I've ever seen. Good set as well, 9 from the new album and a good mix from the old. 3 or 4 from Fragile. "Big Come Down" was amazing.

    Also Trent did an AMA on Reddit yesterday if anyone is wondering where these recent quotes are coming from.
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  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    duska3419 wrote:
    Theyre doing the Australia with QOTSA in March-ish I think? and then the UK in May... so Summer back in the US?

    Hmmm...

    Maybe. Might be the fall again, if he wants a little time off.

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