What's Wrong with Obama?

Godfather. wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

ajedigecko wrote:

I am not against drones.

If you support drone strikes then you support terrorism and the murder of innocents.

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Godfather.

Last-12-Exit wrote:

Drones can be a useful tool during wartme operations.

Bronx Bombers wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

Sorry, make that four U.S citizens: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/201 ... ne-strikes

Anwar al-Awlaki

Who is he?

An American-born radical cleric who now lives in Yemen, Anwar al-Awlaki is the public face of al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), one of the most active al Qaeda affiliates.

Born in New Mexico, he preached at a mosque in Virginia before leaving the U.S. for the Middle East. The U.S. regards al-Awlaki as the biggest threat to its homeland security.

U.S. officials say al-Awlaki helped recruit Umar Farouk AbdulMutallab, the Nigerian man charged with trying to blow up a transatlantic flight as it landed in Detroit, Michigan, on December 25, 2009.

The militant cleric is also said to have exchanged e-mails with accused Fort Hood shooter Maj. Nidal Hassan who killed a dozen fellow soldiers and a civilian in a rampage at the Texas base.

AQAP claimed responsibility for the attempt to ship explosives into the United States via cargo planes late last year.In 2011, al-Awlaki narrowly survived an American drone assault after he switched vehicles with fellow jihadis, a senior security official told CNN.

At a U.S. congressional hearing earlier this year, Michael Leiter, Director of the National Counterterrorism Center, said: "I actually consider al Qaeda in the Arab peninsula with al-Awlaki as a leader within that organization as probably the most significant threat to the U.S."

http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2011/06/1 ... al-awlaki/

"44 Ways to Support Jihad" by Anwar al-Awlaki

Al-Awlaki encouraged others to "fight jihad", and explained how to give money to the mujahideen or their families after they've died. Al-Awlaki's sermon also encouraged others to conduct weapons training, and raise children "on the love of Jihad.”

On his blog he wrote: "I pray that Allah destroys America and all its allies." He wrote as well: "We will implement the rule of Allah on Earth by the tip of the sword, whether the masses like it or not." On July 14, he criticized armies of Muslim countries that assist the U.S. military, saying, "the blame should be placed on the soldier who is willing to follow orders ... who sells his religion for a few dollars."In a sermon on his blog on July 15, 2009, entitled "Fighting Against Government Armies in the Muslim World," al-Awlaki wrote, "Blessed are those who fight against American soldiers, and blessed are those shuhada (martyrs) who are killed by them."

His list of ways to support the jihad are listed here

http://www.kavkazcenter.com/eng/content ... 0561.shtml

Yemeni-American Jihadi Cleric Anwar Al-Awlaki in First Interview with Al-Qaeda Media Calls on Muslim U.S. Servicemen to Kill Fellow Soldiers and says: "My Message to the Muslims...is that we should Participate in this Jihad against America…”

"Nidal Hasan is a student of mine, and I am proud of this. I am proud that there are people like Nidal Hasan among my students. What he did was a heroic act, a wonderful operation. I ask Allah to make him steadfast, to protect him, and to free him. I support what he did, and I call upon anyone who calls himself a Muslim, and serves in the US army, to follow in the footsteps of Nidal Hasan.Good deeds erase bad ones. In addition, I call upon [all] Muslims to follow in his footsteps, and to wage Jihad by speech or by action. Nidal Hasan set a wonderful example, and I ask Allah to make it a beginning, and that many other Muslims will follow in his footsteps.

Interviewer: "After the air strikes in Abyan and Shabwa, the mujahid Umar Farouk tried to blow up a Delta airliner en route from Amsterdam to Detroit. This operation was in retaliation for the oppressive American air strikes in Yemen. What is your connection to Umar Farouk?"

Anwar Al-Awlaki: "This operation fulfilled some goals of the mujahideen. It is considered an operation of retaliation and deterrence against the Americans. This operation demonstrated the flaws in the US security agencies, both in their intelligence and in their [homeland] security. The Americans spent over $40 billion on their airport security, and then the mujahid Umar Farouk managed to penetrate these measures. In addition, the intelligence agencies claim that he was under surveillance, yet he managed to reach Detroit, in the heart of America. This operation achieved great successes, even without killing a single person.

"As for the brother Umar Farouk, he is likewise a student of mine, and this also is an honor. I support what he did."

Interviewer: "Do you support such operations, even though they target what the media calls 'innocent civilians'?"

Anwar Al-Awlaki: "Yes. With regard to the issue of 'civilians,' this term has become prevalent these days, but I prefer to use the terms employed by our jurisprudents. They classify people as either combatants or non-combatants. A combatant is someone who bears arms – even if this is a woman. Non-combatants are people who do not take part in the war. The American people in its entirety takes part in the war, because they elected this administration, and they finance this war. In the recent elections, and in the previous ones, the American people had other options, and could have elected people who did not want war. Nevertheless, these candidates got nothing but a handful of votes. We should examine this issue from the perspective of Islamic law, and this settles the issue – is it permitted or forbidden? If the heroic mujahid brother Umar Farouk could have targeted hundreds of soldiers, that would have been wonderful. But we are talking about the realities of war.

http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/4202.htm

You make it sound like we had Seal Team 6 take out a family of 4 at Disney, these people were far from innocent, they were terrorists and as for the citizenship issue I agree with the Obama administration that:

“ it would be lawful to kill a United States citizen if “an informed, high-level official” of the government decided that the target was a ranking figure in Al Qaeda who posed “an imminent threat of violent attack against the United States” and if his capture was not feasible.”

It adopts an elastic definition of an “imminent” threat, saying it is not necessary for a specific attack to be in process when a target is found if the target is generally engaged in terrorist activities aimed at the United States.

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/secti ... _Paper.pdf

Byrnzie wrote:

If you support drone strikes then you support terrorism and the murder of innocents.

I’m certainly not an Obama supporter but I do support drone strikes because why risk the lives of American soldiers when we have the technology to take them out without the loss of our troops. These countries that support and harbor these terrorists have been warned of the consequences of their actions.

Hillary Clinton said on September 13, 2001: "Every nation has to either be with us, or against us. Those who harbor terrorists, or who finance them, are going to pay a price."

President George W. Bush, in an address to a joint session of Congress on September 20, 2001 said, "Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."

We’re fighting an enemy that operates out of multiple countries and this war against terror is unlike any war that has ever been fought. The "civilians" that are killed are people in these countries who’re either aiding or harboring members of Al-Qaeda which makes them far from innocent victims. As for the other "American Citizens" 2 of them were also members of Al Qaeda and his son we'll his dad had no problems killing or sending other peoples kids to kill innocent civilians so why should we care if his son got killed.

You seem to forget this enemy routinely targets civilians in their attacks, these people killed 52 of your fellow countrymen and injured over 700 in the London bombings. Having witnessed 9/11 up close whatever we have to do to prevent that from ever happening again over here in America is fine by me and if some terrorists kid gets killed in the process I won't shed any tears.

dustinpardue wrote:

Insurance companies should make their shitty policies compliant with the law and there wouldn't be an issue. I blame them not the president. Rather than change, they just drop people then it looks like Obama's fault. I truly feel sorry for the president. If I were him my farewell speech would just be "fuck you. Really, fuck all of you."