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pjhawks · November 2013

JK_Livin wrote:

pjhawks wrote:

JK_Livin wrote:

Another perfect example of you taking things to far. I never mentioned or insinuated anything close to a parade. When I mentioned that Andy left the cupboard bare, I didn't say it was empty. It's feast or famine with you I guess.

JK_Livin wrote:

NFL's leading passer rating! Who knew? Maybe Andy didn't leave the cupboard completely bare, although pretty close to bare..

above is your exact quote dude. how can you possibly say I'm misinterpreting 'Pretty close to bare'? 95% of the key players is not 'pretty close to bare'. jeez

Then the flip side to that is he coached awfully the past few years.

I'll stop bashing Reid if you stop praising him.

You need to stop focusing on key players just like Reid did. EVERY player on the roster is a key player.

bash andy all you want but is it too much to ask to at least get your fact straight when bashing him?

and no I don't think Jeff Maehl and Joe Kruger are really key players.

JK_Livin · November 2013

The facts are that his last draft was ok but the 2-3 before that weren't great. I don't understand how anyone can defend the ending of his tenure here. Doesn't matter what he brought in, coaches or players, nothing worked. That's a fact.

JK_Livin · November 2013

pjhawks wrote:

JK_Livin wrote:

Then the flip side to that is he coached awfully the past few years.

I'll stop bashing Reid if you stop praising him.

You need to stop focusing on key players just like Reid did. EVERY player on the roster is a key player.

bash andy all you want but is it too much to ask to at least get your fact straight when bashing him?

and no I don't think Jeff Maehl and Joe Kruger are really key players.

That's why Reid is gone because every move matters.

The Juggler · November 2013

JK_Livin wrote:

The facts are that his last draft was ok but the 2-3 before that weren't great. I don't understand how anyone can defend the ending of his tenure here. Doesn't matter what he brought in, coaches or players, nothing worked. That's a fact.

the guy you're talking to compared foles to bobby hoying just a few weeks ago. he was also under the impression that this year's team was passing it as much as they did under reid until a month ago. so take anything he says with multiple grains of salt.

half the defense has been turned over. barwin has been a hell of a pick up. benny logan is turning into a solid young player. whole new secondary other than allen, who has resurrected his career under this new staff. nobody talks about him but he's had a very good year so far...not to mention this has all been done while installing a completely new system.

on offense it's pretty much the same other than 2 new starters in johnson and ertz (he's listed as a starter now--2 tight end set is our base)...and of course a whole new system.

reid destroyed everything he built over the last few years. everything from free agent signings to horrible drafts to stale play calling to the disasterous coaching personell decisions. nothing worked.

considering how low on the totem pole this organization sunk, it's really nice to see how quickly things appear to be turning around here.

this is year one. i think people forget what 1999 was like. most people projected 6-7 wins this year. anything more than that is gravy. so... enjoy the heaping scoops of gravy, people. this team is headed in the right direction for the first time in years

jamminpearls · November 2013

The Juggler wrote:

JK_Livin wrote:

The facts are that his last draft was ok but the 2-3 before that weren't great. I don't understand how anyone can defend the ending of his tenure here. Doesn't matter what he brought in, coaches or players, nothing worked. That's a fact.

the guy you're talking to compared foles to bobby hoying just a few weeks ago. he was also under the impression that this year's team was passing it as much as they did under reid until a month ago. so take anything he says with multiple grains of salt.

half the defense has been turned over. barwin has been a hell of a pick up. benny logan is turning into a solid young player. whole new secondary other than allen, who has resurrected his career under this new staff. nobody talks about him but he's had a very good year so far...not to mention this has all been done while installing a completely new system.

on offense it's pretty much the same other than 2 new starters in johnson and ertz (he's listed as a starter now--2 tight end set is our base)...and of course a whole new system.

reid destroyed everything he built over the last few years. everything from free agent signings to horrible drafts to stale play calling to the disasterous coaching personell decisions. nothing worked.

considering how low on the totem pole this organization sunk, it's really nice to see how quickly things appear to be turning around here.

this is year one. i think people forget what 1999 was like. most people projected 6-7 wins this year. anything more than that is gravy. so... enjoy the heaping scoops of gravy, people. this team is headed in the right direction for the first time in years

+1. PJ hawks is so far off it's comical. If Reid had this team it would be fighting for the top pick again. The dude went to a great situation. He has an elite def and great rb.

The Juggler · November 2013

jamminpearls wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

JK_Livin wrote:

The facts are that his last draft was ok but the 2-3 before that weren't great. I don't understand how anyone can defend the ending of his tenure here. Doesn't matter what he brought in, coaches or players, nothing worked. That's a fact.

the guy you're talking to compared foles to bobby hoying just a few weeks ago. he was also under the impression that this year's team was passing it as much as they did under reid until a month ago. so take anything he says with multiple grains of salt.

half the defense has been turned over. barwin has been a hell of a pick up. benny logan is turning into a solid young player. whole new secondary other than allen, who has resurrected his career under this new staff. nobody talks about him but he's had a very good year so far...not to mention this has all been done while installing a completely new system.

on offense it's pretty much the same other than 2 new starters in johnson and ertz (he's listed as a starter now--2 tight end set is our base)...and of course a whole new system.

reid destroyed everything he built over the last few years. everything from free agent signings to horrible drafts to stale play calling to the disasterous coaching personell decisions. nothing worked.

considering how low on the totem pole this organization sunk, it's really nice to see how quickly things appear to be turning around here.

this is year one. i think people forget what 1999 was like. most people projected 6-7 wins this year. anything more than that is gravy. so... enjoy the heaping scoops of gravy, people. this team is headed in the right direction for the first time in years

+1. PJ hawks is so far off it's comical. If Reid had this team it would be fighting for the top pick again. The dude went to a great situation. He has an elite def and great rb.

and 0-1 against team's with a winning record.

only kidding. they're good but if that offense gets down early, they're done. your'e not going to win many games with alex smith throwing 40 plus times like he did last night. he took a few bad sacks last night too.

pjhawks · November 2013

The Juggler wrote:

JK_Livin wrote:

The facts are that his last draft was ok but the 2-3 before that weren't great. I don't understand how anyone can defend the ending of his tenure here. Doesn't matter what he brought in, coaches or players, nothing worked. That's a fact.

the guy you're talking to compared foles to bobby hoying just a few weeks ago. he was also under the impression that this year's team was passing it as much as they did under reid until a month ago. so take anything he says with multiple grains of salt.

half the defense has been turned over. barwin has been a hell of a pick up. benny logan is turning into a solid young player. whole new secondary other than allen, who has resurrected his career under this new staff. nobody talks about him but he's had a very good year so far...not to mention this has all been done while installing a completely new system.

on offense it's pretty much the same other than 2 new starters in johnson and ertz (he's listed as a starter now--2 tight end set is our base)...and of course a whole new system.

reid destroyed everything he built over the last few years. everything from free agent signings to horrible drafts to stale play calling to the disasterous coaching personell decisions. nothing worked.

considering how low on the totem pole this organization sunk, it's really nice to see how quickly things appear to be turning around here.

this is year one. i think people forget what 1999 was like. most people projected 6-7 wins this year. anything more than that is gravy. so... enjoy the heaping scoops of gravy, people. this team is headed in the right direction for the first time in years

every week you are becoming like that other guy and twisting what I said. never once did I compare Nick Foles to Bobby Hoying. My comparsion was the fans reactions to a few good games that guys like those have had. go back and read it again. maybe you would have a better comprehension with a 2nd read.

and I haven't defended the end of reid's tenure. he should have been fired after last year's debacle and I said as much then.

love how everyone is jerking off on Nick Foles but Reid gets no credit for bringing him in. love philly fans. I really do

pjhawks · November 2013

jamminpearls wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

JK_Livin wrote:

The facts are that his last draft was ok but the 2-3 before that weren't great. I don't understand how anyone can defend the ending of his tenure here. Doesn't matter what he brought in, coaches or players, nothing worked. That's a fact.

the guy you're talking to compared foles to bobby hoying just a few weeks ago. he was also under the impression that this year's team was passing it as much as they did under reid until a month ago. so take anything he says with multiple grains of salt.

half the defense has been turned over. barwin has been a hell of a pick up. benny logan is turning into a solid young player. whole new secondary other than allen, who has resurrected his career under this new staff. nobody talks about him but he's had a very good year so far...not to mention this has all been done while installing a completely new system.

on offense it's pretty much the same other than 2 new starters in johnson and ertz (he's listed as a starter now--2 tight end set is our base)...and of course a whole new system.

reid destroyed everything he built over the last few years. everything from free agent signings to horrible drafts to stale play calling to the disasterous coaching personell decisions. nothing worked.

considering how low on the totem pole this organization sunk, it's really nice to see how quickly things appear to be turning around here.

this is year one. i think people forget what 1999 was like. most people projected 6-7 wins this year. anything more than that is gravy. so... enjoy the heaping scoops of gravy, people. this team is headed in the right direction for the first time in years

+1. PJ hawks is so far off it's comical. If Reid had this team it would be fighting for the top pick again. The dude went to a great situation. He has an elite def and great rb.

where the fuck did I say Reid should be coaching this team still? the whole post earlier was from one guy saying Reid left the team almost bare which is just a full irrational crock of shit when you view the key players on this team. of course the same guy tried to tell me jeff maehl is a key player so... :fp:

The Juggler · November 2013

pjhawks wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

JK_Livin wrote:

The facts are that his last draft was ok but the 2-3 before that weren't great. I don't understand how anyone can defend the ending of his tenure here. Doesn't matter what he brought in, coaches or players, nothing worked. That's a fact.

the guy you're talking to compared foles to bobby hoying just a few weeks ago. he was also under the impression that this year's team was passing it as much as they did under reid until a month ago. so take anything he says with multiple grains of salt.

half the defense has been turned over. barwin has been a hell of a pick up. benny logan is turning into a solid young player. whole new secondary other than allen, who has resurrected his career under this new staff. nobody talks about him but he's had a very good year so far...not to mention this has all been done while installing a completely new system.

on offense it's pretty much the same other than 2 new starters in johnson and ertz (he's listed as a starter now--2 tight end set is our base)...and of course a whole new system.

reid destroyed everything he built over the last few years. everything from free agent signings to horrible drafts to stale play calling to the disasterous coaching personell decisions. nothing worked.

considering how low on the totem pole this organization sunk, it's really nice to see how quickly things appear to be turning around here.

this is year one. i think people forget what 1999 was like. most people projected 6-7 wins this year. anything more than that is gravy. so... enjoy the heaping scoops of gravy, people. this team is headed in the right direction for the first time in years

every week you are becoming like that other guy and twisting what I said. never once did I compare Nick Foles to Bobby Hoying. My comparsion was the fans reactions to a few good games that guys like those have had. go back and read it again. maybe you would have a better comprehension with a 2nd read.

and I haven't defended the end of reid's tenure. he should have been fired after last year's debacle and I said as much then.

love how everyone is jerking off on Nick Foles but Reid gets no credit for bringing him in. love philly fans. I really do

haha...you're right. reid deserves credit for drafting him absolutely. it will be weird fucking irony if he ever turns out to be the qb to bring home a title here.

The Juggler · November 2013

while we are talking about reid's mistakes, i always felt like sean mcdermott got a raw deal from him. he's done a great job down in carolina and is expected to get a bunch of interest from teams looking for a new head coach in the offseason:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/99873 ... ning-heads

luke kuechly is a beast for that defense.

i still can't believe mcdermott was replaced by juan fucking castillo. that really happened right?... what ever happened to the former offensive line coach who reid made into his defensive coordinator? ah yes, he's floundering in his position as "run game coordinator" down in baltimore:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jas ... n-castillo :fp:

no matter what you think of andy reid, hiring the offensive line coach to coordinate the defense will go down as one of the dumbest things anyone's ever done in philly sports history. colossal failure anyway you look at it.

The Juggler · November 2013

pjhawks wrote:

jamminpearls wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

the guy you're talking to compared foles to bobby hoying just a few weeks ago. he was also under the impression that this year's team was passing it as much as they did under reid until a month ago. so take anything he says with multiple grains of salt.

half the defense has been turned over. barwin has been a hell of a pick up. benny logan is turning into a solid young player. whole new secondary other than allen, who has resurrected his career under this new staff. nobody talks about him but he's had a very good year so far...not to mention this has all been done while installing a completely new system.

on offense it's pretty much the same other than 2 new starters in johnson and ertz (he's listed as a starter now--2 tight end set is our base)...and of course a whole new system.

reid destroyed everything he built over the last few years. everything from free agent signings to horrible drafts to stale play calling to the disasterous coaching personell decisions. nothing worked.

considering how low on the totem pole this organization sunk, it's really nice to see how quickly things appear to be turning around here.

this is year one. i think people forget what 1999 was like. most people projected 6-7 wins this year. anything more than that is gravy. so... enjoy the heaping scoops of gravy, people. this team is headed in the right direction for the first time in years

+1. PJ hawks is so far off it's comical. If Reid had this team it would be fighting for the top pick again. The dude went to a great situation. He has an elite def and great rb.

where the fuck did I say Reid should be coaching this team still? the whole post earlier was from one guy saying Reid left the team almost bare which is just a full irrational crock of shit when you view the key players on this team. of course the same guy tried to tell me jeff maehl is a key player so... :fp:

half of the defense has been turned over in just one off-season. this is just kelly's first year. that is significant turnover. in a couple years, once they are able to fully assemble the pieces they want for the 3-4 scheme, how many starters from 2012 do you think will still be starting? i figure its gonna be about 3 guys.

this is similiar to when reid took over for rhodes but reversed. this time it's the offense that is mostly the same. back then it was rhodes' defensive players who stayed around and became the key cogs in reid's successful years here. i remember saying this to you when kelly was hired. it's true.

edit-

it's 5 new starters out of 11.

11 new players on defense total, out of 24.

so basically a 50% turnover on defense. pjhawks, as usual, doesn't know what he is talking about.

JK_Livin · November 2013

pjhawks wrote:

love how everyone is jerking off on Nick Foles but Reid gets no credit for bringing him in. love philly fans. I really do

Another example of your extremism.

We should all be disappointed in Foles that hasn't thrown more passes without an INT. When will this guy show up? :roll:

God forbid we get excited as fans after what we've been through in recent years.

JK_Livin · November 2013

pjhawks wrote:

whole post earlier was from one guy saying Reid left the team almost bare which is just a full irrational crock of shit when you view the key players on this team. of course the same guy tried to tell me jeff maehl is a key player so... :fp:

Ignorance is bliss. If you don't think that depth and coaching matter then Reid left the cupboard overflowing, a football cornucopia. Football is a team sport. You need input from top to bottom to win.

pjhawks · November 2013

JK_Livin wrote:

pjhawks wrote:

whole post earlier was from one guy saying Reid left the team almost bare which is just a full irrational crock of shit when you view the key players on this team. of course the same guy tried to tell me jeff maehl is a key player so... :fp:

Ignorance is bliss. If you don't think that depth and coaching matter then Reid left the cupboard overflowing, a football cornucopia. Football is a team sport. You need input from top to bottom to win.

depth only helps if you have stars. without the stars it doesn't matter what your depth is. see Packers, Green Bay without Aaron Rodgers.

there are 1,000 Jeff Maehls in the world. he is irrelevant. if he goes down another barely there NFL player takes his place.

as for Foles he has played pretty darn good, but I will remind you that this team is 0-2 against teams with a winning record and the biggest game Foles started this season he was god awful bad in. Schedule getting much tougher. if he keeps playing at a high level and beats good teams to get this team to the playoffs i'll stand up and pat him on the back. too soon at this point though in my opinion.

JK_Livin · November 2013

pjhawks wrote:

JK_Livin wrote:

pjhawks wrote:

whole post earlier was from one guy saying Reid left the team almost bare which is just a full irrational crock of shit when you view the key players on this team. of course the same guy tried to tell me jeff maehl is a key player so... :fp:

Ignorance is bliss. If you don't think that depth and coaching matter then Reid left the cupboard overflowing, a football cornucopia. Football is a team sport. You need input from top to bottom to win.

depth only helps if you have stars. without the stars it doesn't matter what your depth is. see Packers, Green Bay without Aaron Rodgers.

there are 1,000 Jeff Maehls in the world. he is irrelevant. if he goes down another barely there NFL player takes his place.

as for Foles he has played pretty darn good, but I will remind you that this team is 0-2 against teams with a winning record and the biggest game Foles started this season he was god awful bad in. Schedule getting much tougher. if he keeps playing at a high level and beats good teams to get this team to the playoffs i'll stand up and pat him on the back. too soon at this point though in my opinion.

Last week was the biggest name he's played and he did well. Look at all the stars we've had the past 3 years and still sucked. Stars mean shit if you don't have capable backups and the right pieces to surround them.

Are you head of the Jeff Maehl fan club because you sure do mention him a lot?

Alex Smith hasn't beaten a team with a winning record either.

The Juggler · November 2013

:fp:

The Juggler · November 2013

so now that foles qualifies, the eagles currently have the league's highest rated passer and the league's leading rusher

that's pretty fucking cool.

Jearlpam0925 · November 2013

Now there's some dumb fucking logic right there - depth only matters when you have 'stars'.

I don't think I've ever read anything more idiotic from this dipshit. Man oh man....

JK_Livin · November 2013

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Now there's some dumb fucking logic right there - depth only matters when you have 'stars'.

I don't think I've ever read anything more idiotic from this dipshit. Man oh man....

I'm exhausted

rick1zoo2 · November 2013

For me, this thread is un-usable as a place to casually discuss the team. Just a lot of long-winded posts trying to defend pointless positions and opinions. There is nothing I could contribute to any of it. not fun at all, blah.

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