Getaway live = tuned down??

ForceofNature101
ForceofNature101 Posts: 1,295
edited November 2013 in The Porch
Don't get me wrong it sounds badass live judging by the video but I wonder why it is tuned down a half step? Ed hits notes in Lightning Bolt that are about the same range

Its kind ironic that the tunes they downtune are from the most recent albums (Comatose, Got Some, The Fixer, Getaway, etc.) Although they occasionally play some tunes a half step down but revert back to the original key. This happened with Rats this tour and in the past couple of years with DTE and Once
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  • JM16768
    JM16768 Posts: 79
    Lots of musicians do this...including myself at live shows as it depends on how your voice feels/sounds that day. It can also be a voice saver...I can't say this is WHY they did it or do it on others but its a reason musicians do.
  • nostackedvinyl
    nostackedvinyl Maine Posts: 861
    my guitar is tuned down a half step at all times and it is strictly for vocal purposes. half step down = singing all night. standard tuning = junk vocally after about four songs. and most people listening in a bar, restaurant, etc. aren't going to notice the difference as long as they know the song and can sing along.
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  • mustbechris
    mustbechris Posts: 228
    They play most of Backspacer down a half step. I've also heard Habit and Once and I think Marker in the Sand down a half step.
    Speaking as a child of the 90's
  • boyo79
    boyo79 Warrington, UK Posts: 6,525
    Apparently most of the songs are tuned down now to assist Ed.
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  • Digital Twilight
    Digital Twilight Posts: 5,642
    Yeah tuning it down is to help the vocals. I figured that was the reason it took so long for Getaway to be played live. Gonna See My Friends was another example of this and why it doesn't get played often. It just sounds a little off.
  • dimitrispearljam
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    i saw the video at youtube...
    its to hard to sing..so fast and so many words for ed to catch up at the chorus
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  • ceska
    ceska New York Posts: 1,146
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    i saw the video at youtube...
    its to hard to sing..so fast and so many words for ed to catch up at the chorus

    That's how I feel about MYM but they play it every night.
  • dimitrispearljam
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    ceska wrote:
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    i saw the video at youtube...
    its to hard to sing..so fast and so many words for ed to catch up at the chorus

    That's how I feel about MYM but they play it every night.
    the opposite,mym is getting slower at the chorus,
    Getaway is a non stop keep going!!
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    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • Keep on Jammin
    Keep on Jammin Posts: 377
    Can someone explain to this layperson what tuned down half a step means?
  • thefixer9
    thefixer9 Posts: 9,376
    Even with it turned down...I would still love to see it.
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  • thefixer9
    thefixer9 Posts: 9,376
    edited November 2013
    Keep on Jammin wrote:
    Can someone explain to this layperson what tuned down half a step means?

    That just means you tune down each string down half a step, so the E string becomes E flat, the A string becomes A flat...ect...It makes it easier to sing and hit certain notes. That's why when you hear the Getaway live video, the guitar sound more deep sounding....
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  • ceska
    ceska New York Posts: 1,146
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    ceska wrote:
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    i saw the video at youtube...
    its to hard to sing..so fast and so many words for ed to catch up at the chorus

    That's how I feel about MYM but they play it every night.
    the opposite,mym is getting slower at the chorus,
    Getaway is a non stop keep going!!

    Yeah, but the verses are super fast... I sure can't keep up!
  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    Keep on Jammin wrote:
    Can someone explain to this layperson what tuned down half a step means?

    They take the guitars and tune every string a note lower. Makes it so they can play songs with the same fingering but it's musically lower pitched, thus easier to sing, for aging singers, with less strain.

    For a good, easy to hear comparison listen to the very beginning of Comatose on studio and then a live version.
  • pleatherman
    pleatherman Posts: 472
    Towards the end of "The Kids Are Twenty", you can hear the band banter about doing that for 'Once', if memory serves me correctly.
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,747
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjW86CNAmX4

    for the ones,didnt see it yet
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    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • Chad Grattan
    Chad Grattan Posts: 73
    I don't think that it sounds awful, but it's not good either..

    Being a musician/singer/guitar player, I don't understand recording a brand new song for your new record, that you don't think you will be able to sing live... I am quite certain Ed can hit this song no problem... He is singing the best of his career IMO, and one song isn't going to break his voice for the night/week, etc. Evolution would destroy it way more than Getaway.

    I'm disappointed in the downtune, hopefully it was because of where it fell in the setlist, and was just easier, I have to look into that show to figure it out. It just sounded flat to me. One of the best songs on the record not delivered right.. ugh. Can't believe I'm saying all of this... about the greatest band ever, but it just doesn't do it for me.
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  • JK109224
    JK109224 Posts: 641
    It sounded terrible live. Pretty obvious why it's not making many sets.
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