How did Pearl Jam become Generation X's Grateful Dead

quimby20
quimby20 Posts: 823
edited October 2013 in The Porch
http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/201310 ... ulture_rss


This article is spot on. I saw the Dead 80+ Times plus 30 or so side projects. I am a newer PJ fan, 4 1/2 years new. This community is very similar. In the book Ticketmasters, they mention PJ going to Grateful Deads office to see how they worked their ticket services. I'm sure there will be a lot people slamming this but if you never have seen a dead show, it's hard to relate.
Post edited by Unknown User on

Comments

  • 63schoefflin
    63schoefflin Posts: 2,581
    I wish I could have. That's awesome.
    '08- Camden 1-2   '09- Chicago 2; Spectrum 1-4
    '10- MSG 1-2   '11- PJ20
    '12- MIA; DeLuna '13- Wrigley; Pitt; Brooklyn 1-2; Philly 1-2; Baltimore; Seattle
    '14- Denver   '16- Philly 1-2; MSG 2
    '17- Pilgrimage Music Fest (Eddie)
    '18- Fenway
  • ryph raph
    ryph raph Posts: 887
    Never saw a P.J. fan selling peanut butter & jelly sandwiches in the parking lot. :mrgreen:
    10-26-91 Cleveland
    4-2-92
    7-29-92
    5-4-95 Hovercraft / Cleveland
    8-26-98
    4-25-03
    5-20-06
    8-21-08 E.V. Chicago
    10-31-09 Philadelphia
    5-09-10 Cleveland
    5-10-10 Buffalo
    6-26-11 E.V. Detroit
    10-11-13 Pittsburgh
    10-12-13 Buffalo
    10-29-13 Charlottesville
    4-18-16 Hampton
    8-22-16 Chicago

  • quimby20
    quimby20 Posts: 823
    ryph raph wrote:
    Never saw a P.J. fan selling peanut butter & jelly sandwiches in the parking lot. :mrgreen:
    +1
  • sgtppr67
    sgtppr67 Posts: 241
    ryph raph wrote:
    Never saw a P.J. fan selling peanut butter & jelly sandwiches in the parking lot. :mrgreen:

    You should have gone to BonnaroooOOooooo and got some of those $1 grilled cheese's
  • pearljam133
    pearljam133 Posts: 202
    My dad is the definition of a Deadhead. He seen them over 250 times over the course of 20 years so I know my shit. He gets on me in a joking manner for being obsessed with PJ all the time haha. PJ is similar to the Dead in small way. The Dead never went on tour to support an album like PJ normally does. They went on tour as they pleased; and did so much more often obviously than PJ. The fans destroyed cities; bumming around hotels and what not. They got so big that arenas were out of the question to play in. PJ doesn't jam nor do they have such a devote following. I'm not putting them down; it's a fair comparison. PJ puts on unique live performances each night. They have a solid following. They really emphasize their live experience by selling bootlegs like the Dead (Dicks Picks, ect.) And not to mention their longevity.
    5/2/2003 - Buffalo, NY
    5/9/2010 - Cleveland, OH
    9/11/2011 - Toronto, ONT
    9/12/2011 - Toronto, ONT
    7/19/2013 - Wrigley Field
    10/11/2013 - Pittsburgh, PA
    10/12/2013 - Buffalo, NY
  • quimby20
    quimby20 Posts: 823
    pearljam133 wrote:
    My dad is the definition of a Deadhead. He seen them over 250 times over the course of 20 years so I know my shit. He gets on me in a joking manner for being obsessed with PJ all the time haha. PJ is similar to the Dead in small way. The Dead never went on tour to support an album like PJ normally does. They went on tour as they pleased; and did so much more often obviously than PJ. The fans destroyed cities; bumming around hotels and what not. They got so big that arenas were out of the question to play in. PJ doesn't jam nor do they have such a devote following. I'm not putting them down; it's a fair comparison. PJ puts on unique live performances each night. They have a solid following. They really emphasize their live experience by selling bootlegs like the Dead (Dicks Picks, ect.) And not to mention their longevity.


    The last couple of years of Jerry's life the fans were as you described but I blame it in young kids wanting the experience and turkey not knowing what the community was all about. For the most part, DH were respectable citizens. There were of course a few who ruined it for others. There was never a point where they stopped aging arenas. They just played multiple shows. 9 nights at MSG for example. I love to see PJ do a 9 night run at MSG.
  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    they didn't - that would be Dave Matthews Band
    www.cluthelee.com
  • shortstack
    shortstack Posts: 2,339
    quimby20 wrote:
    There were of course a few who ruined it for others.

    yep, sounds like pj fans.
    did you see me? i saw you.
  • quimby20
    quimby20 Posts: 823
    2-feign-reluctance wrote:
    they didn't - that would be Dave Matthews Band
    What????? The Dead played MSG 52 times with 2 9-show runs in 1988 and 1991. Do your research.
  • Yes Way
    Yes Way Posts: 453
    Now if PJ would cover a Dead song as a tip of the cap, I would be greatly pleased. And before you bust out your flamethrowers, go listen to Ripple and then imagine Ed singing it. It would be phenomenal and very fitting.
    Apr 07, 1994/Oct 01, 1996/Jul 07, 1998/Jul 08, 1998/Aug 29, 1998/Aug 31, 1998/Sep 01, 1998/Sep 03, 1998/Sep 04, 1998/Sep 06, 1998/Jun 01, 2000/Jun 04, 2000/Jun 06, 2000/Oct 20, 2000/Oct 21, 2000/Oct 22, 2000/Oct 24, 2000/Oct 25, 2000/Oct 20, 2001/Oct 21, 2001/May 30, 2003/Jun 01, 2003/Jun 02, 2003/Jun 28, 2003/Jul 02, 2003/Oct 25, 2003/Jul 15, 2006/Jul 16, 2006/Jul 18, 2006/Jul 20, 2006/Jul 22, 2006/Jul 23, 2006/Sep 21, 2009/Sep 22, 2009/Sep 26, 2009/Sep 25, 2011
  • Pearlybaker
    Pearlybaker Posts: 217
    Ha was just having this conversation in line at Brooklyn.

    Would love to see Ed cover Brokedown Palace as a show closer.
    "Hey, listen asshole, one more fucker throws a fuckin' quarter up here and we're outta here, I'm tellin' ya, FUCKER! What the fuck, you're blowin' it for fuckin' everybody. Hit me with a fuckin' quarter again and, fuck it, I'm outta here. We're all outta here. Fuck you, and if anyone sees someone throw fuckin' change right next to them, you have my permission to beat the fuckin' holy shit outta them."
  • Yes Way
    Yes Way Posts: 453
    Pearlybaker wrote:
    Ha was just having this conversation in line at Brooklyn.

    Would love to see Ed cover Brokedown Palace as a show closer.

    I've thought of that one too. But the more I thought about Ripple the more I realized that if I had to pick one that would be it. Drop it in the first encore during the slow set. He would crush it.

    I really do like the thought of Brokedown Palace because I'd like to see another closer every once in a while. At this point it's either Indifference or Yellow Ledbetter. Sometimes I don't think they have enough confidence in their songs. HEY PEARL JAM, YOU HAVE A LOT OF GOOD SONGS!
    Apr 07, 1994/Oct 01, 1996/Jul 07, 1998/Jul 08, 1998/Aug 29, 1998/Aug 31, 1998/Sep 01, 1998/Sep 03, 1998/Sep 04, 1998/Sep 06, 1998/Jun 01, 2000/Jun 04, 2000/Jun 06, 2000/Oct 20, 2000/Oct 21, 2000/Oct 22, 2000/Oct 24, 2000/Oct 25, 2000/Oct 20, 2001/Oct 21, 2001/May 30, 2003/Jun 01, 2003/Jun 02, 2003/Jun 28, 2003/Jul 02, 2003/Oct 25, 2003/Jul 15, 2006/Jul 16, 2006/Jul 18, 2006/Jul 20, 2006/Jul 22, 2006/Jul 23, 2006/Sep 21, 2009/Sep 22, 2009/Sep 26, 2009/Sep 25, 2011
  • quimby20
    quimby20 Posts: 823
    Yes Way wrote:
    Now if PJ would cover a Dead song as a tip of the cap, I would be greatly pleased. And before you bust out your flamethrowers, go listen to Ripple and then imagine Ed singing it. It would be phenomenal and very fitting.
    Scarlet Begonias>Fire on the Mountain. Let Mike melt your mind with blazing solo.
  • Yes Way
    Yes Way Posts: 453
    quimby20 wrote:
    Yes Way wrote:
    Now if PJ would cover a Dead song as a tip of the cap, I would be greatly pleased. And before you bust out your flamethrowers, go listen to Ripple and then imagine Ed singing it. It would be phenomenal and very fitting.
    Scarlet Begonias>Fire on the Mountain. Let Mike melt your mind with blazing solo.

    You don't need to twist my arm. I'm open to anything they want to cover.
    Apr 07, 1994/Oct 01, 1996/Jul 07, 1998/Jul 08, 1998/Aug 29, 1998/Aug 31, 1998/Sep 01, 1998/Sep 03, 1998/Sep 04, 1998/Sep 06, 1998/Jun 01, 2000/Jun 04, 2000/Jun 06, 2000/Oct 20, 2000/Oct 21, 2000/Oct 22, 2000/Oct 24, 2000/Oct 25, 2000/Oct 20, 2001/Oct 21, 2001/May 30, 2003/Jun 01, 2003/Jun 02, 2003/Jun 28, 2003/Jul 02, 2003/Oct 25, 2003/Jul 15, 2006/Jul 16, 2006/Jul 18, 2006/Jul 20, 2006/Jul 22, 2006/Jul 23, 2006/Sep 21, 2009/Sep 22, 2009/Sep 26, 2009/Sep 25, 2011
  • Black Diamond
    Black Diamond Posts: 25,109
    quimby20 wrote:
    2-feign-reluctance wrote:
    they didn't - that would be Dave Matthews Band
    What????? The Dead played MSG 52 times with 2 9-show runs in 1988 and 1991. Do your research.
    Was at all of them..
    GoiMTvP.gif
  • YieldToNothing
    YieldToNothing Posts: 3,667
    i dont like when people try to make this comparison.


    the dead actually toured and their studio output sucked.

    pearl jam makes great records and barely tours
    i have a paper here that entitles me to fast track status
  • IrishGuy
    IrishGuy Posts: 258
    does nobody search to see if it has been posted already anymore? :roll:
  • quimby20
    quimby20 Posts: 823
    IrishGuy wrote:
    does nobody search to see if it has been posted already anymore? :roll:
    Sorry, the article was dated today.... I didn't see any posts on it. What are your thoughts on the article?

Categories