THE LINE & "THE LIST"

dimitrispearljam wrote:

PJ_Soul wrote:

I guess it's going to be the wrong and other way to do it for most people though.... Unless PJ is changing their minds?? If so, then I expect to see an email from 10C.

i sw them like 20+ times GA in europe,there is always one gate and one entrance..
i dont see the point for do it in a different way.

Maybe to get rid of the line? I dunno.... they obviously made a conscious decision to change it though. If they are reneging on this, they had better inform everyone with tickets.

Think about it...if 10 different GA doors all let people in at the same time, people at the front of each line who want the rail would be running at top speed to try to beat one another to the rail. It would lead to injuries and liability issues for the venue. One entrance for all GA people is the best way to go.

PJ_Soul wrote:

Yefa wrote:

Think about it...if 10 different GA doors all let people in at the same time, people at the front of each line who want the rail would be running at top speed to try to beat one another to the rail. It would lead to injuries and liability issues for the venue. One entrance for all GA people is the best way to go.

Well they had people entering through all doors in Pittsburgh apparently, and no one was killed. And I've been to a lot of concerts where all doors were open.... I've never seen anything bad happen. Most grown ups don't get seriously injured just because they are running (and most wouldn't run anyway), plus they have to stop so that security can check their wristbands at the entrance to the pit.

You've been to a lot of GA shows where a lot of doors opened at the same time? I go to many club shows and it's one entrance.
I saw a number of Neil Young & Crazy Horse shows from GA last year and all venues but one had only one entrance for all GA people. The one that screwed it up was Webster Bank Arena in Bridgeport, CT. They made the same mistake at that venue this year with the Bob Dylan/Wilco/My Morning Jacket show I saw there.
As I said before, I didn't wait long in line last night as I wasn't trying for the rail. It appears you and some other folks don't think anyone should have the right to try for the rail by waiting in line if they so choose. I think that's a rather strange viewpoint to take but so be it.

pulling69 wrote:

FYI for the 2 Worcester shows they "told" GA to enter through door 16(but you could enter in any door you wanted). By the time I entered night 1 at around 7:30 there were huge lines to get in at the other doors and nobody at the GA door so I entered there. Night 2 at around the same time was much easier to enter into any door in the area as there were less people in general at the gig.

PS You could get floor access from both sides and from a number of the sections on the first concourse, the smart play if one were trying to bypass "the list/line/sharpie numbers :fp: " would have been to enter one of the other doors promptly at 630pm and thus jump a number of people in the GA "line".

Thanks for the info. I didn't know that GA people could enter anywhere but door 16 in Worcester.
If people just walked up to any entrance at doors and got in front of people who had been waiting for hours at door 16 then that really sucks for the people who had been in line all that time.

Yefa wrote:

pulling69 wrote:

FYI for the 2 Worcester shows they "told" GA to enter through door 16(but you could enter in any door you wanted). By the time I entered night 1 at around 7:30 there were huge lines to get in at the other doors and nobody at the GA door so I entered there. Night 2 at around the same time was much easier to enter into any door in the area as there were less people in general at the gig.

PS You could get floor access from both sides and from a number of the sections on the first concourse, the smart play if one were trying to bypass "the list/line/sharpie numbers :fp: " would have been to enter one of the other doors promptly at 630pm and thus jump a number of people in the GA "line".

Thanks for the info. I didn't know that GA people could enter anywhere but door 16 in Worcester.
If people just walked up to any entrance at doors and got in front of people who had been waiting for hours at door 16 then that really sucks for the people who had been in line all that time.

More like that's really stupid of the people who had been in line all that time.

Yefa wrote:

pulling69 wrote:

FYI for the 2 Worcester shows they "told" GA to enter through door 16(but you could enter in any door you wanted). By the time I entered night 1 at around 7:30 there were huge lines to get in at the other doors and nobody at the GA door so I entered there. Night 2 at around the same time was much easier to enter into any door in the area as there were less people in general at the gig.

PS You could get floor access from both sides and from a number of the sections on the first concourse, the smart play if one were trying to bypass "the list/line/sharpie numbers :fp: " would have been to enter one of the other doors promptly at 630pm and thus jump a number of people in the GA "line".

Thanks for the info. I didn't know that GA people could enter anywhere but door 16 in Worcester.
If people just walked up to any entrance at doors and got in front of people who had been waiting for hours at door 16 then that really sucks for the people who had been in line all that time.

Sucks for them? Meh The 10C email clearly states that for every show you can enter through any door at 6:30pm. The venue told people to form a line/enter at one door but did not say you couldn't enter anywhere else. It is pretty clear that the 10C tried to set up the GA to be as fan friendly and easy to deal with as possible(enter at any door, stating "no need to wait all day", etc).

PS Like I said, I still entered at door 16 on night one. I had my 10C reserved seat for night 2 and nobody looked at the ticket to see what it was, they just scanned it to make sure it was valid. Pretty sure 70+ year old grandma wouldn't have even been able to read what section my ticket was in

Yefa wrote:

PJ_Soul wrote:

Yefa wrote:

Thanks for the info. I didn't know that GA people could enter anywhere but door 16 in Worcester.
If people just walked up to any entrance at doors and got in front of people who had been waiting for hours at door 16 then that really sucks for the people who had been in line all that time.

More like that's really stupid of the people who had been in line all that time.

Clearly you have never waited in line to get the rail at any show or you would not have that kind of attitude.

Huh? That makes no sense. I have had the opportunity to wait in line to get the rail for a lot of shows, but have chosen not to. What difference does that make? How would being in a particularly pointless and useless GA line change my mind?? I wouldn't be standing in a line when you could enter for GA at every door. That seems pretty dumb to me.

Kimmiebyrom wrote:

So the difference between numbered wrists (list & a marker) and wristbands (a la The Boss) is what?
I don't care if there is a list or whatever the hell, I'll sit on cold concrete for hours and have fun doing it.
The point BEING is that if everyone waiting to get into GA has a number or wristband number, the all day line becomes unnecessary. But everyone has to be on board that system, not just a few, otherwise you WILL have other line people trying to police the whole thing. It's an all or nothing deal I get it. I can wish for the best of both worlds if I damn well want to, and speak up about it as well without it being bullshit. :fp:

Bruce does a lottery. You get wristbands, and then at a predetermined time of day, they draw a number, and whoever's wristband has that number is first in line, and then people line up in numerical order after that person, all the way to the highest number, and then back to 1. So if they pick 127, then the person with 127 wristband is first, then 128, etc. That is order that they allow people to enter the building. It's genius.

Yefa wrote:

PJ_Soul wrote:

Huh? That makes no sense. I have had the opportunity to wait in line to get the rail for a lot of shows, but have chosen not to. What difference does that make? How would being in a particularly pointless and useless GA line change my mind?? I wouldn't be standing in a line when you could enter for GA at every door. That seems pretty dumb to me.

A lot of people had the impression that door 16 was the only one where GA people could enter last night. Perhaps there was a 10C email sent out that contradicted that, but have you never seen posts on this board from 10C members saying they never received this, that, or the other 10C email that some members got? It happens on a regular basis.

I actually haven't seen people complaining about not getting their ticket confirmation emails.... It's not like 10C sent a separate email about it. It's right there in the ticket confirmation, and I can't imagine that any member is going to go long without that before contacting 10C. It's the email with the ticket pick up details and the GA LINEUP DETAILS. If they don't get that and don't contact 10C, then that's their problem.

Yefa wrote:

PJ_Soul wrote:

Kimmiebyrom wrote:

So the difference between numbered wrists (list & a marker) and wristbands (a la The Boss) is what?
I don't care if there is a list or whatever the hell, I'll sit on cold concrete for hours and have fun doing it.
The point BEING is that if everyone waiting to get into GA has a number or wristband number, the all day line becomes unnecessary. But everyone has to be on board that system, not just a few, otherwise you WILL have other line people trying to police the whole thing. It's an all or nothing deal I get it. I can wish for the best of both worlds if I damn well want to, and speak up about it as well without it being bullshit. :fp:

Bruce does a lottery. You get wristbands, and then at a predetermined time of day, they draw a number, and whoever's wristband has that number is first in line, and then people line up in numerical order after that person, all the way to the highest number, and then back to 1. So if they pick 127, then the person with 127 wristband is first, then 128, etc. That is order that they allow people to enter the building. It's genius.

It works well but it's a crapshoot. I've had GA for Bruce twice and have not gotten the pit yet. I think I'd rather have a seat than be in the back part of the floor at a show.

I just love that everyone gets the same odds of getting a good spot, there are different people at the rail at every show, and that no one has to line up and deal with the line Nazis.