Sooooo, Jesus Christ didn't really exist???
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            Bentleyspop wrote:JimmyV wrote:Covert Messiah sounds like the name of a death metal band.
 I saw Covert Messiah open up for Satans Penis a few years ago  0 0
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            hear my name
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            dignin wrote:
 this is what was in my head
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JlCr59LN3Uhear my name
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 Really man? Is there any comment pertaining to Jews that people won't get offended by? Seriously, I'm surprised no one has called Bentley an anti-semite yet for his jokeMotoDC wrote:
 Jebus, is there anything people won't blame the Jews for?article wrote:Jewish sects in Palestine at the time, who were waiting for a prophesied warrior Messiah, were a constant source of violent insurrection during the first century 
 The comment is that they were constantly rebeling against and fighting the roman empire. That's pretty badass in my books.
 The document is the same text I've seen referenced here several times in the 'did jesus exist' discussions.know1 wrote:The so-called confession document mentioned in the flashy headline of that article is barely mentioned in the body of the text. I wonder why.
 There is no confession mentioned at all...only this:
 Atwill maintains he can demonstrate that "the Roman Caesars left us a kind of puzzle literature that was meant to be solved by future generations, and the solution to that puzzle is 'We invented Jesus Christ, and we're proud of it.'"
 Sooo...a paraphrased quote from the author of the book, on a website that's apparently inteded as a platform for PR releases. So this is an advertisement for some guy tryin to make money, not a news article. Kinda like the associated press, cable news, etc 0 0
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            If Jesus doesn't exist then these song/poems I wrote are pointless. Jesus had a split personality. Here we see the beleaguered, martyred Jesus:
 Jesus was More Popular than Guns
 A homeless man stands
 In the dust of a freeway onramp.
 With head bowed and hands folded,
 He thinks to himself
 And prays to his god saying
 It’s time to get out of here.
 The eye as camera pans fast
 Passing on its way to gas or
 Something more delectable.
 There’s no time to stop and think
 About anything as trivial
 As a lost cause.
 Jesus was more popular than guns
 So said the polls, five to one.
 At the feet of Pontius Pilate
 He could have saved himself with
 The arsenal he’d brought along.
 But he saw that Pilot had a dog
 And he belong to the SPCA
 And to the ASPCA
 And the FoA and the IDA
 And he broke bread with PITA
 And turned water into wine with SWAT
 And he knew Pilate's dog might get caught
 In the blaze of cross fire.
 And he hung around a while.
 And the crowd settled down.
 And the sound of marching feet
 Moved in slowly from the west.
 And the Shiny Purple Metallic Armor
 That gave its people no rest
 Put the vote to a test and called
 For a recount of anyone left.
 And the judge sat on his cushion
 And announced the decision was
 Made. “Hear ye, hear ye,
 It is by decree of the jury that hence force
 It shall be recognized that Jesus
 Is no longer more popular than guns!
 And here, the gun toting redneck Jesus:
 Billboard Jesus
 Jesus was a logger-dude
 He worked out in the woods
 Wore flannel shirts with halos ‘round
 The ankles of his boots.
 Jesus was a lager-dude
 Turned water into beer
 When loaves and fishes weren’t enough
 He’d go out and shoot a deer
 Jesus was a lodger, dude,
 He stayed in a motel
 Just down the road from Maggie’s bar
 Where drifters came and went from hell
 Logger Dude
 Logger Dude
 Logger Dude
 Logger Dude"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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            badbrains wrote:
 Except the mention of Jesus in josephus's book has been shown to be a forgery, so Joesphus himself wasn't concerned with anybody called Jesus at all. Though maybe he knows this already and Atwill's point is just that the New Testament was based largely on the 'Wars of the Jews'.0
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            sparky_fry wrote:meh, I was more dumbfounded when i found out Santa clause wasn't real. At least he was based on a real person.
 WTF! This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Like parents can do all those presents in one night. Anyhow, I read the article...it seems as legit as half the reviews on LB.“I suppose our capacity for self-delusion is boundless.” ― John Steinbeck, Travels with Charley: In Search of America0
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            This is a great hypothesis but it is no more self-consistent than most theories of the origins of JC and bible stories.
 If the Romans (or a Roman elite cabal) created Christianity by writing the very stories themselves, why did they then PERSECUTE AND MURDER CHRISTIANS FOR OVER THREE HUNDRED YEARS?
 ???If I was to smile and I held out my hand
 If I opened it now would you not understand?0
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 They were just keepin' it real, yo.DriftingByTheStorm wrote:This is a great hypothesis but it is no more self-consistent than most theories of the origins of JC and bible stories.
 If the Romans (or a Roman elite cabal) created Christianity by writing the very stories themselves, why did they then PERSECUTE AND MURDER CHRISTIANS FOR OVER THREE HUNDRED YEARS?
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            DriftingByTheStorm wrote:This is a great hypothesis but it is no more self-consistent than most theories of the origins of JC and bible stories.
 If the Romans (or a Roman elite cabal) created Christianity by writing the very stories themselves, why did they then PERSECUTE AND MURDER CHRISTIANS FOR OVER THREE HUNDRED YEARS?
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 The Roman military industrial complex needed enemies to fight.___________________________________________
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 Offended? You presume quite a bit. I would have thought including a Simpsons reference in my sentence would have conveyed my lack of emotional intensity but I guess I was wrong. Now who's the hypersensitive one on the Jewish topic? :twisted: Regardless, the point isn't whether the characterization itself was a negative or positive one (in your words, "that's pretty badass"), rather that I found it interesting that once again the Jews are taking the blame for a tyrant's woes.drowned out wrote:Really man? Is there any comment pertaining to Jews that people won't get offended by? Seriously, I'm surprised no one has called Bentley an anti-semite yet for his joke 
 The comment is that they were constantly rebeling against and fighting the roman empire. That's pretty badass in my books.
 If I read the article correctly, his whole theory is based on two things: 1) the Jews were causing trouble, and 2) Josephus' history was just a little too close to Jesus' prophecies for the author's comfort.
 Offtopic -- while Bentley's joke didn't offend me personally, it could easily be argued to be offensive per se. I.e., if a joke about black people was made in a similar manner I doubt it would have been taken so lightly by the crowd.0
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            JimmyV wrote:DriftingByTheStorm wrote:This is a great hypothesis but it is no more self-consistent than most theories of the origins of JC and bible stories.
 If the Romans (or a Roman elite cabal) created Christianity by writing the very stories themselves, why did they then PERSECUTE AND MURDER CHRISTIANS FOR OVER THREE HUNDRED YEARS?
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 The Roman military industrial complex needed enemies to fight.
 Kind of like our military industrial complex of today. You know, the one fucking with all the Muslim countries.  0 0
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 BB:badbrains wrote:JimmyV wrote:DriftingByTheStorm wrote:This is a great hypothesis but it is no more self-consistent than most theories of the origins of JC and bible stories.
 If the Romans (or a Roman elite cabal) created Christianity by writing the very stories themselves, why did they then PERSECUTE AND MURDER CHRISTIANS FOR OVER THREE HUNDRED YEARS?
 ???
 The Roman military industrial complex needed enemies to fight.
 Kind of like our military industrial complex of today. You know, the one fucking with all the Muslim countries.  
 They have the oil...gotta protect the oil....ah ah I mean they have weapons of mass destrctruction. ...10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG0
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            Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:Gern Blansten wrote:He's real
 I prayed that we would have tacos last night and we did.
 How can anyone dispute this? 
 ill need to see the tacos. oh theyre all eaten so ill have to take gern's word for it, you say??? how convenient. :P :P hear my name hear my name
 take a good look
 this could be the day
 hold my hand
 lie beside me
 i just need to say0
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            Prince Of Dorkness wrote:Duh.
 Oh and that Easter Bunny thing?
 Also fake.
 but... but... the chocolate eggs....hear my name
 take a good look
 this could be the day
 hold my hand
 lie beside me
 i just need to say0
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