If you're muslim you can leave, dead if not

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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Now add how they treat woman ... What a lovely religion.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Amazing this still continues on. Heard this morning about explosions at the mall while hostages are still being held there.

    Yes, it is indeed fucked up if they gave some, for whatever fucked up reason, the blessed opportunity to flee before taking the lives of dozens and wounding even more.

    (but hey, I heard the Emmys kicked ass last night)
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    :o ....really ?


    Godfather.
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    i can't even keep up with this bullshit. would you all like to hear the truth about quite a few things? babies, the whole entire fucking lot; from here to there, up & down, everywhere... fucking babies

    there are some countries i would not ever label as babies. they be pollite, honest & decent hard working folks who don't give a frig about what religion is who. the middle eastern countries & some other regions of the world are immature cry baby little shits who may have had rough lives but wow, they sure have their panties on a bit tight & the way women & girls are treated.... fucking unreal

    i call immature cry babies who can't handle situations without extreme violence where countless have been blown to smithereens

    humans are like a terrible plague set out to annoy like a home infested w/ lice or a mut infected w/ disease; we are people, congratulations
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    There have been several reports that Mosque compounds here in America are being used to train terrorist.
    Could this be graduates Ahmed Mohamed Isse, 22, “native” of St. Paul, Minn., Abdifatah Osman Keenadiid, 24, of Minneapolis, and Gen Mustafe Noorudiin, 27, of Kansas City, Mo.
    CAIR has also wielded its power to silence critics of the Al Qaeda offshoot—Somalia’s Al Shabaab—that stormed into the mall, murdered at least 68 and took dozens of hostages.
    CAIR, an Islamic terrorist front group that reportedly raises money for Hamas, has interfered with the U.S. government’s investigation into this operation. A few years ago it actually hampered an FBI probe into the disappearance of dozens of Twin Cities Somali men. Many in the local Somali community denounced CAIR’s actions, saying that the group was actually discouraging them from cooperating with the FBI.
    Yet last year President Obama’s deputies held hundreds of closed-door meetings with CAIR officials. Little information was discussed publicly about the secret sessions, but the news organization that broke the story quoted a White House director saying that government departments and agencies discussed a “range of issues.”

    Around the same time, the FBI purged its anti-terrorism training curricula of material determined to be “offensive” to Muslims. Judicial Watch uncovered this scandal and obtained the FBI records just a few weeks ago. CAIR is not specifically named but the records show that an undisclosed group of “Subject Matter Experts” (SME) determined the federal training material was offensive to Muslims. Just last month, several police departments in Illinois cancelled their anti-terrorism training because CAIR complained that the instructor was blatantly anti-Muslim.

    http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2013/09/cair-impeded-fbi-probe-of-somali-terrorist-group-in-kenya-attack-2720150.html
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • Going off topic sort of...

    I hate when people label Islam as the war religion.

    Not all Muslims are pro-blowing shit up. Many are peaceful people.

    Let's not forget Catholics (which I am one) wiped out many people in the Crusades. Some White Supremacists are violent and they believe they are doing what they believe is right and right under God (but I believe for most its strictly just a race thing and not religion related). Basically what I am saying non-Islamic people have done some horrible shit and still do.

    We cannot just label people. It's wrong.

    Yes most terrorists are Muslims but not all Muslims are terrorists.

    The ones that are terrorists are EXTREMISTS. People need to understand that.
    ~Carter~

    You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
    or you can come to terms and realize
    you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
    makes much more sense to live in the present tense
    - Present Tense
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    edited September 2013
    Going off topic sort of...

    I hate when people label Islam as the war religion.

    Not all Muslims are pro-blowing shit up. Many are peaceful people.

    Let's not forget Catholics (which I am one) wiped out many people in the Crusades. Some White Supremacists are violent and they believe they are doing what they believe is right and right under God (but I believe for most its strictly just a race thing and not religion related). Basically what I am saying non-Islamic people have done some horrible shit and still do.

    We cannot just label people. It's wrong.

    Yes most terrorists are Muslims but not all Muslims are terrorists.

    The ones that are terrorists are EXTREMISTS. People need to understand that.

    and those catholic crusades were disgusting & very criminal to say the least. sure there are extremists all over & with all sorts of groups of folks. it seems though that the middle eastern extremists are quite ready to rock & are on one hell of a roll. it is their turn i guess. but hasn't it been their turn for-like-ever?
    Post edited by chadwick on
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    Going off topic sort of...

    I hate when people label Islam as the war religion.

    Not all Muslims are pro-blowing shit up. Many are peaceful people.

    Let's not forget Catholics (which I am one) wiped out many people in the Crusades. Some White Supremacists are violent and they believe they are doing what they believe is right and right under God (but I believe for most its strictly just a race thing and not religion related). Basically what I am saying non-Islamic people have done some horrible shit and still do.

    We cannot just label people. It's wrong.

    Yes most terrorists are Muslims but not all Muslims are terrorists.

    The ones that are terrorists are EXTREMISTS. People need to understand that.

    Ahmed Mohamed Isse, 22, “native” of St. Paul, Minn., Abdifatah Osman Keenadiid, 24, of Minneapolis, and Gen Mustafe Noorudiin, 27, of Kansas City, Mo.
    Are the killers (among others) In this tragedy .....they are from USA and there is one from Canada
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Going off topic sort of...

    I hate when people label Islam as the war religion.

    Not all Muslims are pro-blowing shit up. Many are peaceful people.

    Let's not forget Catholics (which I am one) wiped out many people in the Crusades. Some White Supremacists are violent and they believe they are doing what they believe is right and right under God (but I believe for most its strictly just a race thing and not religion related). Basically what I am saying non-Islamic people have done some horrible shit and still do.

    We cannot just label people. It's wrong.

    Yes most terrorists are Muslims but not all Muslims are terrorists.

    The ones that are terrorists are EXTREMISTS. People need to understand that.

    but can't you see it's getting out of control ? it sure seems that there are more extremists than peacefull ones.
    if Badbrains has a koran..(spelling please) maybe he can give us the the straight story on what the koran actually sez about non belivers of islam cause everything I'm hearing sez infedils must die in so many words..well that's what the extremists seem to say when I see them on t.v.

    Godfather.
  • Godfather. wrote:
    Going off topic sort of...

    I hate when people label Islam as the war religion.

    Not all Muslims are pro-blowing shit up. Many are peaceful people.

    Let's not forget Catholics (which I am one) wiped out many people in the Crusades. Some White Supremacists are violent and they believe they are doing what they believe is right and right under God (but I believe for most its strictly just a race thing and not religion related). Basically what I am saying non-Islamic people have done some horrible shit and still do.

    We cannot just label people. It's wrong.

    Yes most terrorists are Muslims but not all Muslims are terrorists.

    The ones that are terrorists are EXTREMISTS. People need to understand that.

    but can't you see it's getting out of control ? it sure seems that there are more extremists than peacefull ones.
    if Badbrains has a koran..(spelling please) maybe he can give us the the straight story on what the koran actually sez about non belivers of islam cause everything I'm hearing sez infedils must die in so many words..well that's what the extremists seem to say when I see them on t.v.

    Godfather.

    There are lots, but no where near the majority. Not even half most likely, or even a quarter.
    ~Carter~

    You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
    or you can come to terms and realize
    you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
    makes much more sense to live in the present tense
    - Present Tense
  • Well, if there are a billion Muslims and even 1 percent are extremist, that's still a lot
  • grooveme wrote:
    Well, if there are a billion Muslims and even 1 percent are extremist, that's still a lot

    True, but to see them all as extremists is ignorant.
    ~Carter~

    You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
    or you can come to terms and realize
    you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
    makes much more sense to live in the present tense
    - Present Tense
  • Pingfah
    Pingfah Posts: 350
    It's shocking to see the standard of evidence people will base their conclusions on.

    It "seems like" there are more Muslim extremists than peaceful ones? Yes i guess if your whole worldview is informed by Fox News and the conservative blogosphere you probably would think that. Anyone with a modicum of world experience or critical thinking ability should be able to work out immediately such a scenario is mathematically absurd.
  • ajedigecko
    ajedigecko \m/deplorable af \m/ Posts: 2,431
    Pingfah wrote:
    It's shocking to see the standard of evidence people will base their conclusions on.

    It "seems like" there are more Muslim extremists than peaceful ones? Yes i guess if your whole worldview is informed by Fox News and the conservative blogosphere you probably would think that. Anyone with a modicum of world experience or critical thinking ability should be able to work out immediately such a scenario is mathematically absurd.


    ...and this reasoning must be used, when talking about how guns are bad.
    live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
  • Pingfah
    Pingfah Posts: 350
    I like slipper socks.

    Oh sorry, I thought this was the "Say Something Irrelevant" thread.
  • Pingfah wrote:
    It's shocking to see the standard of evidence people will base their conclusions on.

    It "seems like" there are more Muslim extremists than peaceful ones? Yes i guess if your whole worldview is informed by Fox News and the conservative blogosphere you probably would think that. Anyone with a modicum of world experience or critical thinking ability should be able to work out immediately such a scenario is mathematically absurd.

    This
    ~Carter~

    You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
    or you can come to terms and realize
    you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
    makes much more sense to live in the present tense
    - Present Tense
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    Reports are that the situation has finally been contained. Apparantly a staffer for Bill Clinton who was 9 months pregnate is amoung the dead.
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  • SEACIDE
    SEACIDE Posts: 410
    Paint it any way you want- government, religion- but everything boils down to Us and Them.

    I don't have time to completely express my thoughts on this matter, but I wonder if it is our natural tendency to seek to belong to groups or if we condition ourselves to seek a sense of belonging?

    For example, do kids sport/school pride/clubs/national anthems/churches/etc. teach us the values we think they are teaching... or do they teach kids that one should identify themselves with the group they are associated with- ultimately shaping mentalities that require divisiveness?

    Most of our species prefer herds....
    Love is all you need.....
  • SEACIDE
    SEACIDE Posts: 410
    Going off topic sort of...

    I hate when people label Islam as the war religion.

    Not all Muslims are pro-blowing shit up. Many are peaceful people.

    Let's not forget Catholics (which I am one) wiped out many people in the Crusades. Some White Supremacists are violent and they believe they are doing what they believe is right and right under God (but I believe for most its strictly just a race thing and not religion related). Basically what I am saying non-Islamic people have done some horrible shit and still do.

    We cannot just label people. It's wrong.

    Yes most terrorists are Muslims but not all Muslims are terrorists.

    The ones that are terrorists are EXTREMISTS. People need to understand that.

    People do understand that...what they don't understand is why the nonextremist muslims aren't completely up in arms and taking a very active and aggressive role in cleaning up their religion. We are headed towards a holy war and the non extremists will be lumped together with the zealots if they don't do a better job of separating themselves from the terrorists.
    Love is all you need.....
  • SEACIDE
    SEACIDE Posts: 410
    SEACIDE wrote:
    Paint it any way you want- government, religion- but everything boils down to Us and Them.

    I don't have time to completely express my thoughts on this matter, but I wonder if it is our natural tendency to seek to belong to groups or if we condition ourselves to seek a sense of belonging?

    For example, do kids sport/school pride/clubs/national anthems/churches/etc. teach us the values we think they are teaching... or do they teach kids that one should identify themselves with the group they are associated with- ultimately shaping mentalities that require divisiveness?

    Most of our species prefer herds....

    of their own kind to boot...
    Love is all you need.....