Lyrics at end of Rats

cent208
cent208 Posts: 435
edited November 2013 in Words and Music...Communication
Just noticed this for the first time. At the end of rats he says "Ben, the two of us need look no more" five times. Does anybody know who Ben is or what this means?

Thanks
"The pain is temporary the pride is forever."
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  • Shorty
    Shorty Ontario Posts: 1,160
    It's a reference to Michael Jackson's song Ben - google the lyrics. I read somewhere, sometime, that MJ's Ben always made Jeff cry - so Eddie put the reference at the end of Rats as a bit of an inside joke. All of this may or may not be true.....
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  • rustneversleeps
    rustneversleeps The Motel of Lost Companions Posts: 2,209
    ben is the rat in the movie willard....michael jackson sang the theme song to the movie, the opening line is ben, the two of us need look no more.... probably some kinda reference i always figured
  • cent208
    cent208 Posts: 435
    Thanks, i had no idea
    "The pain is temporary the pride is forever."
  • ratmando
    ratmando Outside of Portland, or somewhere like that Posts: 347
    edited September 2013
    The lyrics aRe here http://www.lyrics.com/ben-lyrics-michael-jackson.html
    The song as written symbolically talks of a young loner who could only find nonjudgement in the heart of another misunderstood and ostracised being....a small rat bullied by others. The boy takes care of the animal and the Symbology for rats for being different echoed altimeter of racism and war.....not ironically remade years later during similar world.events. rather than black /white/Asian it seems middle eastern, Asian, and " Caucasian " religious difference are echoed.
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  • Choccoloccotide
    Choccoloccotide A grass shack nailed to a pinewood floor Posts: 1,235
    I love this song ...carry on.
  • actonplp
    actonplp Maine Posts: 173
    Rats is a great song & I thought it was quite clever for the Ben lyrics to be added to the end. It’s kind of funny to have humans compared to rats & have rats shown as being the better or the two species.
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