Please cover Nightrain in Hartford !!!!

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  • Empty Glass
    Empty Glass In Rob's shed Posts: 12,329
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  • oysterjar
    oysterjar NH Posts: 1,235
    EdsonNascimento wrote:
    :lol: Ed could not pull Axl off. Don't do this. Axl is a truly unique singer and you'd be very disappointed to realize they are not the same league. Love Ed. But this would be a huge disappointment. Theres a reason folks don't typically cover GnR and it's not the guitar.

    They'd be better off doing Crazy Train.

    OK, so I am going to randomly rant only because I have listened to both PJ and GnR extensively.

    I know that you wouldn't get the same high pitched screaming from Ed in Nighttrain, but he would give civil war a much needed lift. Literally I think if Ed sang this people would think wow this song means something, we should think about it. That's why I said nighttrain would be interesting, but civil war would be cool. I disagree with the crazy train attempt, personally. You are 100% right, Ed could not pull of Axl, but civil war by PJ would be awesome.
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  • BinFrog
    BinFrog MA Posts: 7,314
    EdsonNascimento wrote:
    Slash is overrated. Mike could pull it off.

    EDIT: Easily


    Mike could nail SOME Slash material. But there are some Slash riffs/solos that are beyond Mike. Sorry, but it's true. Slash is not overrated at all.
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  • oysterjar
    oysterjar NH Posts: 1,235
    DewieCox wrote:
    EdsonNascimento wrote:
    :lol: Ed could not pull Axl off. Don't do this. Axl is a truly unique singer and you'd be very disappointed to realize they are not the same league. Love Ed. But this would be a huge disappointment. Theres a reason folks don't typically cover GnR and it's not the guitar.

    They'd be better off doing Crazy Train.

    I think it's the guitar too. Mike could bs something but he couldn't play it like Slash. Slash is on a whole different level when it comes to speed and he has a pretty identifiable sound as well.

    I think there are much simpler songs that Ed has trouble with and he's at the opposite end of the spectrum from Axl.

    Stone is probably the only one that could mimic his counter part with much success. I've always thought him and Izzy have pretty similar roles and a lot of similar influences.

    Jeff would do good just b/c he's fuckin Jeff and that's how he rolls.

    There are so many things I want to say, so I will make it short: yes Stone, Jeff, and Matt (not mentioned) could hang.

    Ed doesn't scream like Axl so you are partially right. But I would Loooooooooove to hear what he could do on a lot of their songs. The songs that don't involve screaming, I believe would be better by PJ.

    Lastly if you ever think that Mike couldn't play anything by Slash,(vomit) I'd (vomit) like to vomit. Basically Mike is superior to Slash, and Slash is a top 10 lead guitarist. But I would punch anyone in the face that ever said that Mike is not on the same level as Slash to my face. I would take that personal.


    Cheers
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  • jlaustin
    jlaustin Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 2,355
    oysterjar wrote:
    EdsonNascimento wrote:
    :lol: Ed could not pull Axl off. Don't do this. Axl is a truly unique singer and you'd be very disappointed to realize they are not the same league. Love Ed. But this would be a huge disappointment. Theres a reason folks don't typically cover GnR and it's not the guitar.

    They'd be better off doing Crazy Train.

    OK, so I am going to randomly rant only because I have listened to both PJ and GnR extensively.

    I know that you wouldn't get the same high pitched screaming from Ed in Nighttrain, but he would give civil war a much needed lift. Literally I think if Ed sang this people would think wow this song means something, we should think about it. That's why I said nighttrain would be interesting, but civil war would be cool. I disagree with the crazy train attempt, personally. You are 100% right, Ed could not pull of Axl, but civil war by PJ would be awesome.

    Big fan of both GNR and PJ... Totally agree with you, oysterjar. I don't think Axl can sing like Axl anymore! :lol:

    Civil War would be fantastic and very appropriate right now.
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  • BinFrog
    BinFrog MA Posts: 7,314
    oysterjar wrote:
    Lastly if you ever think that Mike couldn't play anything by Slash,(vomit) I'd (vomit) like to vomit. Basically Mike is superior to Slash, and Slash is a top 10 lead guitarist. But I would punch anyone in the face that ever said that Mike is not on the same level as Slash to my face. I would take that personal.


    Cheers

    First off calm down. It's a music debate.

    You don't have to like GnR or even like Slash's playing. And I am as big of a Mike fan as anyone in this board. But Mike is a blues/hard rock based guitarist. And what he does he does with as much feel and passion as any guitarist.

    But Slash is a classically trained guitarist and is simply "better". Now, I happen to love GnR, but regardless it is what it is. Disregarding the obvious choices I could link to, this one will do just fine:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYirx68mzAo

    Go to 2:45. You don't have to like it, but to say Mike could nail that, let alone effortlessly...c'mon now...
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  • oysterjar
    oysterjar NH Posts: 1,235
    BinFrog wrote:
    oysterjar wrote:
    Lastly if you ever think that Mike couldn't play anything by Slash,(vomit) I'd (vomit) like to vomit. Basically Mike is superior to Slash, and Slash is a top 10 lead guitarist. But I would punch anyone in the face that ever said that Mike is not on the same level as Slash to my face. I would take that personal.


    Cheers

    First off calm down. It's a music debate.

    You don't have to like GnR or even like Slash's playing. And I am as big of a Mike fan as anyone in this board. But Mike is a blues/hard rock based guitarist. And what he does he does with as much feel and passion as any guitarist.

    But Slash is a classically trained guitarist and is simply "better". Now, I happen to love GnR, but regardless it is what it is. Disregarding the obvious choices I could link to, this one will do just fine:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYirx68mzAo

    Go to 2:45. You don't have to like it, but to say Mike could nail that, let alone effortlessly...c'mon now...

    Please don't take this personal. GnR used to be my favorite band. I loved them. They have awesome songs. Slash/izzy combo was awesome. But I have my opinion and you have yours. To parry your link (which by the way shows slash is fucking awesome) I give you this

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6FcWW5TEu4

    Its a quick little link. I you tubed "Mike Mcready solo" and this was on the first page, and it was from last year.

    Cheers
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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    EdsonNascimento wrote:
    Slash is overrated. Mike could pull it off.

    EDIT: Easily

    Slash is overrated, but he also plays with a level of precision that Mike has never begun to approach.
    oysterjar wrote:

    Lastly if you ever think that Mike couldn't play anything by Slash,(vomit) I'd (vomit) like to vomit. Basically Mike is superior to Slash, and Slash is a top 10 lead guitarist. But I would punch anyone in the face that ever said that Mike is not on the same level as Slash to my face. I would take that personal.


    Cheers

    Not in the same universe as guitar players. I wouldn't even put Slash in the Top 10 and Mike isn't in anybody's top 100 outside of this board. To say that he's better than Slash for anything other than personal preference undermines any credibility you may have. One listen to Paradise City will tell you all you need to know.
  • Suziemay
    Suziemay Posts: 11,168
    edited September 2013
    KV4053 wrote:
    THIS is a bizarre thread for many reasons.
    Yeah, that's my reaction too. I think it's because I think songs are only worthy of covering if 1) the band is no longer active, 2) the songs are legendary, or 3) you are Prince and want to cover Evenflow :mrgreen:

    GnR songs are still alive and kicking through, well, GnR and Slash's band (and I think Myles Kennedy and Todd Kerns do the songs justice on vocals) so it doesn't really occur to me for anyone else to "cover" those songs. Also, I don't view GnR and Pearl Jam in the same family of music so it would just be bizarre to me for them to cover. Would be different if let's say Slash shows up at a show, but still a bit bizarre. I think if Slashed showed up they would just cover something else, like Hendrix.

    Oh, and Slash is so not overrated.
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  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    I think Axl being a prick has some people automatically cringing at this thread but the man could write some incredible lyrics at times. I dont think he still has the pipes or if he ever truly did but he's a legit lyricist.

    And Ed would pull off a great version of Civil War.
  • oysterjar
    oysterjar NH Posts: 1,235
    This comparable, if not better, check the 1:40 mark for Mr McBetter:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnRWIwWihOA


    enjoy!
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  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    cp3iverson wrote:
    I think Axl being a prick has some people automatically cringing at this thread but the man could write some incredible lyrics at times. I dont think he still has the pipes or if he ever truly did but he's a legit lyricist.

    And Ed would pull off a great version of Civil War.

    You haven't seem him recently. Is he the same as when he was 22? Is Ed? Are you?

    And regarding Slash - DJ Ahsba is easily his equal. Slash is good not great. Nobody is mistaking him for Page.
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  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    EdsonNascimento wrote:
    cp3iverson wrote:
    I think Axl being a prick has some people automatically cringing at this thread but the man could write some incredible lyrics at times. I dont think he still has the pipes or if he ever truly did but he's a legit lyricist.

    And Ed would pull off a great version of Civil War.

    You haven't seem him recently. Is he the same as when he was 22? Is Ed? Are you?

    And regarding Slash - DJ Ahsba is easily his equal. Slash is good not great. Nobody is mistaking him for Page.

    I will say that the new GNR might be better musicians than the first lineup. They even have indie cred with one of the Replacements being in the band :lol:
  • DP17
    DP17 Posts: 68
    pearlJAM AIN'T a BAND too play covers!! MAN their OWN SONGS ROCK! I DO THINK EV KNOWS what too SING... :nono:
  • brett15lightyears
    brett15lightyears Greenwich, NY Posts: 72
    no just no stop drinking and posting ...if pj ever covered gnr they would be desperate ..hey I like gnr I do I grew up with them but pj is above that and axel rose is such a disgrace that its an insult. like I said I grew up listening to gnr as well as pearl jam this is just not ok pj Is like back in the day zeppelin and gnr hasn't been anything since what 93. slash is an amazing guitarist and deserves a lot of credit. axel wrote some good songs and was an amazing front man for 5 years. but this is 2013 and pj and gnr are not even in the same category.

    PJ forever ...period
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  • rustneversleeps
    rustneversleeps The Motel of Lost Companions Posts: 2,209
    DP17 wrote:
    pearlJAM AIN'T a BAND too play covers!! MAN their OWN SONGS ROCK! I DO THINK EV KNOWS what too SING... :nono:

    ???? they probably do as many or more covers as any band playing....
  • ceska
    ceska New York Posts: 1,146
    Disappointed to see this is about GNR, thought it was a call for the James Brown tune!
  • Ionosphere
    Ionosphere Posts: 1
    Lol... Mike could more than handle Slash's part. Listen, Slash is a good guitarist, but some of you act like he is Yngwie Malmsteen ( technically great but has no feel in his playing - hate him ). And, who said Slash was a classically trained guitarist. It's been a few years since I read his Bio book, but I don't recall ever hearing this. I spend far more of my time hanging around hard rock and metal forums and I can tell you Slash is never included among the greats. For that matter, neither is Mike. But, I feel Mike is truly underrated... in part due to his personality and in part due to the band he plays in. Slash is more closely associated with a genre that loves to rate guitarist.

    BTW, all the PJ concerts I have been to generally included some covers, REM and Pink Floyd come to mind, neither of which are terribly similar to PJ. So, hell yeah, I think some GnR would be cool. Nobody is suggesting that's PJ's version would replace the Guns on the radio.

    Oh, and lastly. Axl did write one of the best antiwar songs ever. Sorry if you don't like the man..the band, but Civil Kills ( not literally since it's kinda against that sort of thing ).
  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    Ionosphere wrote:
    Lol... Mike could more than handle Slash's part. Listen, Slash is a good guitarist, but some of you act like he is Yngwie Malmsteen ( technically great but has no feel in his playing - hate him ). And, who said Slash was a classically trained guitarist. It's been a few years since I read his Bio book, but I don't recall ever hearing this. I spend far more of my time hanging around hard rock and metal forums and I can tell you Slash is never included among the greats. For that matter, neither is Mike. But, I feel Mike is truly underrated... in part due to his personality and in part due to the band he plays in. Slash is more closely associated with a genre that loves to rate guitarist.

    Not one person has said Slash is the absolute most technically gifted guitarist ever, but if you're denying that he far surpasses Mike in sheer technical ability, you're simply wrong. His sound is immediately identifiable and it's probably one of the top 5 most chased tones ever.

    Slash did attend music school. I have a feeling he tries to downplay how much it affected his playing, but who really knows. Classically trained may be a bit of a stretch.

    Slash is no doubt included amongst the greats. He's one of the most iconic guitar players ever, for both his look and his sound. I've spent alot of time around guitar forums and his name pops up pretty frequently.

    There's not really a big difference in the genre that they play in. GnR and PJ are both classic rock inspired rock\hard rock. I don't think that has any bearing whatsoever in how Mike is viewed. Jerry Cantrell has no trouble getting the cover of guitar magazines, or getting props from a lot of players.

    Again, I've never seen or heard Mike approach the speed and dexterity that Slash pulls on some of the old GnR stuff. Nothing even close enough to make me think Mike is even close.
  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    Ionosphere wrote:

    Oh, and lastly. Axl did write one of the best antiwar songs ever. Sorry if you don't like the man..the band, but Civil Kills ( not literally since it's kinda against that sort of thing ).

    Yep.

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