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Jason P wrote:I don't know what is out of touch of making an abled bodied person have to show they are at least trying to find work every three months to qualify for food stamps? Is that really out of touch?
The people working in the unemployment insurance offices are overworked as is.
The 'checks' and 'balances' you describe would demand an entireyly new branch of government for that purpose. The costs associated with such would far outweigh the costs attached to abuse.
I get frustrated with these types of scenarios as well, but let's be honest... these programs have value and are necessary. Let's place the blame where the blame should sit- on the losers that abuse them. And, while we're at it... let's feel good about the people who need assistance and are able to get it."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:
The people working in the unemployment insurance offices are overworked as is.
The 'checks' and 'balances' you describe would demand an entireyly new branch of government for that purpose. The costs associated with such would far outweigh the costs attached to abuse.
I get frustrated with these types of scenarios as well, but let's be honest... these programs have value and are necessary. Let's place the blame where the blame should sit- on the losers that abuse them. And, while we're at it... let's feel good about the people who need assistance and are able to get it.Be Excellent To Each OtherParty On, Dudes!0 -
Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:Does the 'Republican dream' include elders living on the streets foraging in dumpsters, out of work people kicked out of their homes, and troubled veterans left to their own devices?
No, that is just the result of liberal policy.Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:I'm not sure if there are any programs that serve a strong purpose and do not exhibit characteristics of misuse. White collar abuse is rampant as well and has a much more profound effect on the integrity of society (look at the last Republican presidential candidate and his unethical and unpatriotic business exploits for example).
How could anyone care about the alleged unethical and unpatriotic business exploits of the guy who lost, after living through the actual unethical and unpatriotic behaviors of the guy who won? Maybe Mitt Romney should change his name to Ben Ghazi so libreals won't talk about him anymore?Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:Don't blame policy makers trying to do something positive... blame the people that abuse the programs.
The only thing they are trying to do is buy votes with handouts. If they really wanted to help people, they wouldn't offer them handouts. Give a man a fish / Teach a man to fish.0 -
MG79478 wrote:Give a man a fish / Teach a man to fish.
What if the man has no use of his hands or is incapable of fishing on his own?~Carter~
You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
or you can come to terms and realize
you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
makes much more sense to live in the present tense - Present Tense0 -
Guitar92player wrote:
What if the man has no use of his hands or is incapable of fishing on his own?
You do understand that saying implies the man is capable of fishing?
But even if he is not, does that man not have any other skill or value? Does he not have friends or family to help? Government assistance should be the option of last resort.0 -
MG79478 wrote:
You do understand that saying implies the man is capable of fishing?
But even if he is not, does that man not have any other skill or value? Does he not have friends or family to help? Government assistance should be the option of last resort.With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
I find it funny that I heard that some Republicans are kind of mad at Gov. Christie lately for doing what the people wanted instead of following the GOP agenda.
He signed a medical marijuana legalization bill, an anti gay conversion bill, and a gun control bill, all of which goes against what the GOP believe.
Sorry that he is doing is job and listening to his people.
However, this also could just be a political push towards the white house, but regardless he is standing up to his party in a way. So good for you Gov. Christie.~Carter~
You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
or you can come to terms and realize
you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
makes much more sense to live in the present tense - Present Tense0 -
Guitar92player wrote:I find it funny that I heard that some Republicans are kind of mad at Gov. Christie lately for doing what the people wanted instead of following the GOP agenda.
He signed a medical marijuana legalization bill, an anti gay conversion bill, and a gun control bill, all of which goes against what the GOP believe.
Sorry that he is doing is job and listening to his people.
However, this also could just be a political push towards the white house, but regardless he is standing up to his party in a way. So good for you Gov. Christie.
If people would just go the common-sense approach, most everything would fall quite nicely into place.
(although this, from a quick search, makes NO sense - "Christie told the Legislature that he would sign the bill if it stipulated that edible forms of marijuana would be dispensed only to minors, not to patients of all ages." Why the limit, Chris, WHY?)0 -
1) NO!!!
2) REPEAL!!
3) BENGHAZI!!!
these are what the gop are betting on in november.
pretty sad when you put party above country, but hey, this is nothing new now, is it?"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
your thoughts on guns are noted. please do not derail the thread with the first reply.[/quote][/quote]unsung said:
I'm making a valid comparison on how much life is lost as compared to what the left perceives as the real issue. If you can't take honest debate don't create threads. Or at least state that you only want those that agree with you to reply.
Here are more stats.
In 2011 there were 2,513,171 documented deaths in the US.
.34% were gun related, about 8500.
.012% were related to so-called assault weapons, about 300.
By comparison 1,210,000 abortions were performed in the US in 2008.
Keep telling me that guns are the problem. You always say that a person is a law-abiding citizen until they use a gun in a crime. By that logic a dr is law abiding until he performs an abortion, now he is a murderer.
Rand Paul 2016.
except abortion is legal.
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Do you have a problem with the fact that approx 50% of taxes are spent on the military? Or is it just tax money spent on the poor that makes you angry?MG79478 said:Government assistance should be the option of last resort.
And how about the $6 trillion spent on two bullshit wars in Iraq and Afghanistan? Are you fine with that?
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we have to spend that money on defense. we will never change our foreign policy, which is actually making us less safe, so we have to have the most badass military. you know, for defense."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
What if the man has no use of his hands or is incapable of fishing on his own?[/quote]MG79478 said:
You do understand that saying implies the man is capable of fishing?
But even if he is not, does that man not have any other skill or value? Does he not have friends or family to help? Government assistance should be the option of last resort.
except that your aren't teaching them to fish...you are leaving them to figure it out on their own or starveMonkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
A scenario if I may:
You, a ___ year old, worked full time as a ____ while living with your girlfriend and child. One night you get in a car accident and sustain a traumatic brain injury. After recovery and rehab, you break up with your girlfriend and are forced to live with your daughter and your mother, who is now assisting with childcare. You are also now collecting SSDI ($1200/month) and Medicaid.
Fast forward one year – making progress and preparing for getting your own place and return to work. The $1200 that you learned to live off of is proving to be just enough to live and your medical assistance is needed for medications and doctors.
Options:
a. Get a part time/full time job that disqualifies you from benefits. (Also while dealing with symptoms). You may be able to make enough to gain independence but are basically forced to start fresh but with responsibilities of a child, bills, and other grownup things (that can't just be refreshed).
b. Stay on the systems that you’ve gotten comfortable with living with “for now”.
Option A is usually the more respectable “American Way” but puts your finances, health, and living situation in jeopardy. Option B ends up feeling like a safer bet.
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I live directly next door to this Oklahoma GOP genius... Made headlines by pulling a Dick Cheney
rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/04/pro-gun-ok-republican-cant-believe-he-shot-another-hunter-im-as-safety-as-can-be/
Seriously, right fuking next door.... no, really I don;t think you understand... right next door.. haha"The heart and mind are the true lens of the camera." - Yusuf Karsh
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