Biggest Band on Earth

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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    People keep comparing PJ to U2 and Bruce etc and say that they sell out stadiums all over the world...Pearl Jam is an arena band(places that hold 20k or so) and there are alot of places that they don't sell out. U2 and Bruce play places that hold 50k and above and fill them up.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,722
    DewieCox wrote:
    People keep comparing PJ to U2 and Bruce etc and say that they sell out stadiums all over the world...Pearl Jam is an arena band(places that hold 20k or so) and there are alot of places that they don't sell out. U2 and Bruce play places that hold 50k and above and fill them up.
    Yeah. But Pearl Jam is turning into the same kind of band - even though they don't fill up as many seats (Neil Young doesn't either I can imagine).

    People go see Pearl Jam based on the name, the legacy and the "old" anthems. Same as U2 and Bruce.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • butte1
    butte1 Posts: 379
    edited July 2013
    DewieCox wrote:
    People keep comparing PJ to U2 and Bruce etc and say that they sell out stadiums all over the world...Pearl Jam is an arena band(places that hold 20k or so) and there are alot of places that they don't sell out. U2 and Bruce play places that hold 50k and above and fill them up.


    In the USA, outside the USA PJ absolutely still sells out stadiums.... if we are talking the "WORLD" and not just the USA then PJ is absolutely comparable... and apparently you are negating PJ20 where there were around 33,000 to 37,000 on two consecutive nights and the 40,000 they just put into Wrigley but otherwise usually PJ is an arena band in the USA but worldwide they are still a stadium and festival band
    Post edited by butte1 on
    R and R Station - Mar 26, 1992 ** Alpine Valley Music Theatre - Aug 29, 1992 ** Summerfest Milw - Jul 08, 1995 ** Summerfest Milw - Jul 09, 1995 ** Alpine Valley Music Theatre - Jun 26, 1998 ** ** Alpine Valley Music Theatre (E.V. at Tibetan Freedom Concert) - Jun 13, 1999 ** Alpine Valley Music Theatre - Oct 08, 2000 ** Alpine Valley Music Theatre - Jun 21, 2003 ** United Center - May 16, 2006 ** Summerfest - Jun 30, 2006 ** Riverside Theatre Milw (Eddie Solo Tour) - 2008 ** United Center - Aug 23, 2009 ** The Chicago Theatre (Eddie Solo Tour) - Jun 29, 2011 ** Orpheum Theatre MN (Eddie Solo Tour) - July 2, 2011 ** Alpine Valley Music Theatre - Sep 03, 2011 ** Alpine Valley Music Theatre - Sep 04, 2011
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,722
    edited July 2013
    butte1 wrote:
    DewieCox wrote:
    People keep comparing PJ to U2 and Bruce etc and say that they sell out stadiums all over the world...Pearl Jam is an arena band(places that hold 20k or so) and there are alot of places that they don't sell out. U2 and Bruce play places that hold 50k and above and fill them up.


    In the USA, outside the USA PJ absolutely still sells out stadiums.... if we are talking the "WORLD" and not just the USA then PJ is absolutely comparable
    They tried in 2007 in Germany, didn't work out.

    In SA I bet most bands sell more tickets then they would in other parts of the world. But they do sell a lot in Australia.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • satansbed
    satansbed Posts: 2,139
    DewieCox wrote:
    People keep comparing PJ to U2 and Bruce etc and say that they sell out stadiums all over the world...Pearl Jam is an arena band(places that hold 20k or so) and there are alot of places that they don't sell out. U2 and Bruce play places that hold 50k and above and fill them up.

    remember the australian stadium tour?

    now i wouldn't say they are on Bruce's level yet but they have all the ingredients to turn in to that type of group.

    2 massive albums in the 90's, a good solid back catalogue, great live performers, change set lists every night. most of their 90's fans are getting to a point where they have high disposable income again (mid 40's +).

    that mantle is there for them if they want it. now whether or not they want it is another story
  • butte1
    butte1 Posts: 379
    butte1 wrote:
    DewieCox wrote:
    People keep comparing PJ to U2 and Bruce etc and say that they sell out stadiums all over the world...Pearl Jam is an arena band(places that hold 20k or so) and there are alot of places that they don't sell out. U2 and Bruce play places that hold 50k and above and fill them up.


    In the USA, outside the USA PJ absolutely still sells out stadiums.... if we are talking the "WORLD" and not just the USA then PJ is absolutely comparable
    They tried in 2007 in Germany, didn't work out.

    In SA I bet most bands sell more tickets then they would in other parts of the world.


    Quit trying to "qualify" it, typical.... apparently SA is not part of "the world" in this guys mind
    R and R Station - Mar 26, 1992 ** Alpine Valley Music Theatre - Aug 29, 1992 ** Summerfest Milw - Jul 08, 1995 ** Summerfest Milw - Jul 09, 1995 ** Alpine Valley Music Theatre - Jun 26, 1998 ** ** Alpine Valley Music Theatre (E.V. at Tibetan Freedom Concert) - Jun 13, 1999 ** Alpine Valley Music Theatre - Oct 08, 2000 ** Alpine Valley Music Theatre - Jun 21, 2003 ** United Center - May 16, 2006 ** Summerfest - Jun 30, 2006 ** Riverside Theatre Milw (Eddie Solo Tour) - 2008 ** United Center - Aug 23, 2009 ** The Chicago Theatre (Eddie Solo Tour) - Jun 29, 2011 ** Orpheum Theatre MN (Eddie Solo Tour) - July 2, 2011 ** Alpine Valley Music Theatre - Sep 03, 2011 ** Alpine Valley Music Theatre - Sep 04, 2011
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,722
    butte1 wrote:
    butte1 wrote:


    In the USA, outside the USA PJ absolutely still sells out stadiums.... if we are talking the "WORLD" and not just the USA then PJ is absolutely comparable
    They tried in 2007 in Germany, didn't work out.

    In SA I bet most bands sell more tickets then they would in other parts of the world.


    Quit trying to "qualify" it, typical.... apparently SA is not part of "the world" in this guys mind

    Its part of the world, what I'm saying is that all big names would sell more tickets there. So even if PJ sold "Bruce numbers" down there, Bruces numbers down there would be mega-Bruce.

    But maybe the could sell out the Ullevi-arena here in Sweden which Bruce sells out 2 nights in a row. Maybe. But not two nights. And only if they haven't visited in a long time. Me thinks.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Alfonz
    Alfonz Posts: 126
    Seeing as they have been on the road in 2013, with potentially more shows to come, the biggest band on earth mantle has returned to its rightful position in the hands of the Rolling Stones. It would need a very convincing argument to change my mind on that.
  • butte1
    butte1 Posts: 379
    edited July 2013
    Its part of the world, what I'm saying is that all big names would sell more tickets there. So even if PJ sold "Bruce numbers" down there, Bruces numbers down there would be mega-Bruce.

    But maybe the could sell out the Ullevi-arena here in Sweden which Bruce sells out 2 nights in a row. Maybe. But not two nights. And only if they haven't visited in a long time. Me thinks.


    Maybe, not sure unless they tried and either succeeded ro failed hard to say.... But stadiums in SA only hold so many people and so many nights, PJ was selling out stadiums for two nights in a row, it'd be tough for Bruce to outdo that unless he went for 3 to 4 nights in a row and what band EVER does more than two shows in a row at a venue, so in theory you might be right be in reality how to prove it when both sell out two night only shows??? ....You mention 2007 in Germany not working out but what about 2009 in Australia, that seemed to work fine and what about WUHLHEIDE in Berlin in 2010, looked pretty full to me..... not saying they are jam packing every single stadium in every single country in the world but they are still very much a "stadium band" on a world wide level overall.... also don't discount selling out 20,000 person arenas, the overwhelming majoirty of bands can't even do that....
    Post edited by butte1 on
    R and R Station - Mar 26, 1992 ** Alpine Valley Music Theatre - Aug 29, 1992 ** Summerfest Milw - Jul 08, 1995 ** Summerfest Milw - Jul 09, 1995 ** Alpine Valley Music Theatre - Jun 26, 1998 ** ** Alpine Valley Music Theatre (E.V. at Tibetan Freedom Concert) - Jun 13, 1999 ** Alpine Valley Music Theatre - Oct 08, 2000 ** Alpine Valley Music Theatre - Jun 21, 2003 ** United Center - May 16, 2006 ** Summerfest - Jun 30, 2006 ** Riverside Theatre Milw (Eddie Solo Tour) - 2008 ** United Center - Aug 23, 2009 ** The Chicago Theatre (Eddie Solo Tour) - Jun 29, 2011 ** Orpheum Theatre MN (Eddie Solo Tour) - July 2, 2011 ** Alpine Valley Music Theatre - Sep 03, 2011 ** Alpine Valley Music Theatre - Sep 04, 2011
  • Being in the US we definitely have a skewed view as to what is HUGE in the world. If you eliminate bands that take massive breaks between tours and albums (U2, Radiohead, Metallica, RHCP and yes Pearl Jam), the biggest two bands in the WORLD are the Foo Fighters and Muse. And with the Foo's taking there first Hiatus they may be moving on to the next stage of there career.

    Go check out Muse selling out 2 nights at Wembly Stadium for reference, or closing the Oylmpics over the Who and the remaining members of Queen. For an active band they are about as big as it gets.
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    6/7/2003 (***1/2)
    7/9/2006 (****1/2)
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    4/10/2008 EV Solo (****1/2)
    6/25/2008 MSG II (*****)
    10/1/2009 LA II (****)
    10/6/2009 LA III (***** Cornell!!!)
  • helplessdancer
    helplessdancer Posts: 5,292
    there's good reason why they call him the boss
  • Go check out Muse selling out 2 nights at Wembly Stadium for reference, or closing the Oylmpics over the Who and the remaining members of Queen. For an active band they are about as big as it gets.

    The Foo Fighters did this also. I'm not sure Pearl Jam could sell out one night at Wembley Stadium where as Bruce sold out 1 show but also sold out arenas on the same tour. If PJ were to play the stadium it would have to be their only show in the UK IMO. I could be wrong but that's how I see it.
  • satansbed
    satansbed Posts: 2,139
    Go check out Muse selling out 2 nights at Wembly Stadium for reference, or closing the Oylmpics over the Who and the remaining members of Queen. For an active band they are about as big as it gets.

    The Foo Fighters did this also. I'm not sure Pearl Jam could sell out one night at Wembley Stadium where as Bruce sold out 1 show but also sold out arenas on the same tour. If PJ were to play the stadium it would have to be their only show in the UK IMO. I could be wrong but that's how I see it.

    yeah but bruce has been cultivating that following for ten years.

    this is a pretty good article about Bruce's five shows in ireland this summer
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,722
    Go check out Muse selling out 2 nights at Wembly Stadium for reference, or closing the Oylmpics over the Who and the remaining members of Queen. For an active band they are about as big as it gets.

    The Foo Fighters did this also. I'm not sure Pearl Jam could sell out one night at Wembley Stadium where as Bruce sold out 1 show but also sold out arenas on the same tour. If PJ were to play the stadium it would have to be their only show in the UK IMO. I could be wrong but that's how I see it.

    Foo Fighters is ALOT bigger than PJ. They are a relevant hit-making band combined with also starting to have a legacy.

    PJ is pretty much all legacy.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    OK, my mistake. They do play stadiums in SA, but nowhere else are they playing or selling out stadiums on a regular basis. Alot of bands do very well in SA that I wouldn't say are the biggest in the world.

    I don't think it's fair to toss Alpine Valley or Wrigley into the equation and say "PJ sells out stadiums". PJ20 was a festival type even with other artists and it was also booked as a PJ fan destination weekend. 35k is alot of people it's only 2/3 or half of a typical stadium tour, and there was quite a bit of room at the back of the lawn for a "sellout" on night 2.

    Jason Aldean sold out Wrigley the night after and nobody is making an argument that he is even the biggest country act, b/c he's not selling out stadiums night in and night out.

    For those saying I'm looking at the US only..... Even if that was the case, the biggest band in the world should at least be able to sell out the US arenas and amphitheaters that they book, especially with their limited schedule, and they just don't do that.

    I'll say it again, PJ is immensely successful, there are just bands that pack bigger places for more shows and bands that are more recognizable. I'm not exactly splitting hairs to come to my conclusion.
  • satansbed wrote:
    Go check out Muse selling out 2 nights at Wembly Stadium for reference, or closing the Oylmpics over the Who and the remaining members of Queen. For an active band they are about as big as it gets.

    The Foo Fighters did this also. I'm not sure Pearl Jam could sell out one night at Wembley Stadium where as Bruce sold out 1 show but also sold out arenas on the same tour. If PJ were to play the stadium it would have to be their only show in the UK IMO. I could be wrong but that's how I see it.

    yeah but bruce has been cultivating that following for ten years.

    this is a pretty good article about Bruce's five shows in ireland this summer

    Yeah possibly, also I don't think Pearl Jam want to be as big or as active as he is (at least not right now) I guess the point is Pearl Jam are huge but not quite the upper echelon as occupied by ye olde Bruce and co.

  • PJ is pretty much all legacy.

    I don't agree but their legacy is sure a huge part of it. They may not get the radio hits but its their amazing live shows and continuing pushing forward is what has kept PJ around all this time. They keep bringing out new material every few years and don't disappear for large amounts of time doing nothing.

    Yeah Foo Fighters are much bigger than PJ but I'm happy with that. I don't want it to get any harder getting tickets :lol:

    I think PJ has created a nice little niche for themselves and their fans. It's a great position to be in.
  • satansbed
    satansbed Posts: 2,139


    Yeah possibly, also I don't think Pearl Jam want to be as big or as active as he is (at least not right now) I guess the point is Pearl Jam are huge but not quite the upper echelon as occupied by ye olde Bruce and co.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/blogs/onthere ... ringsteen/
    i forgot the link the last post
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 27,242
    Hell...

    Bon Jovi played 59 or so shows last year? Or the year before.
    With an average attendance of 26,000 or so.

    Pearl Jam hasn't played 59 shows in America in the last 4-5 years combined.

    Biggest band my ass.
    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

    U2
    Bruce
    The Stones
    And yeah, I said it....BON JOVI!!!! :lol::lol::lol::lol:
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....