You don't get tommy john surgery to improve performance. Its done because there is an injury to the elbow that prevents a player from performing at their best natural ability.
No pitcher in baseball has ever taken their perfectly good 92mph arm and said "I'd like to throw 98, lets take the year off and do tommy john."
did you ever play baseball? kids did that shit all the time with TJ surgery...I played with 2 in college that did exactly that in high school. And no we do not care about athletes after they finish their athletic careers...unless you've been volunteering to wheel around your favorite football/basketball/baseball player post-retirement that is.
Yes, I played for 16 years. Including college. I've never heard of players doing that.
Not any worse then most the TV pharma commercials disclose ... plus they forget to list cranking 500 ft homers and multi-million dollar contracts in the side effect list.
In other news the Beatles, Led Zep, Jimi Hendrix, the Stones, Tupac, and Nirvana have returned all their platinum records and have been kicked out of the rock n roll HOF for performance enhancing drugs
Ryan Braun: 'Never Believe Any Of Us'
Sports News in Brief • sports • Baseball • ISSUE 49•30 • Jul 23, 2013
MILWAUKEE—In his first statement after receiving a 65-game suspension from baseball, Brewers slugger Ryan Braun called on fans Tuesday to remember that every single word that he or any other baseball player accused of using steroids has ever said publicly is a lie. “Please be aware that nothing we ever say is true, and when I said that I would ‘bet my life’ I didn’t take steroids, you should have stopped right there and assumed that I took them,” said the former NL MVP, who went on to ask fans whether they really believed that someone who narrowly avoided a 50-game ban for elevated testosterone levels on a technicality could be wrongfully incriminated a second time in two years. “If faced with either telling the truth and losing millions of dollars or lying and keeping our millions of dollars, we’re going to choose to betray the confidence and trust of everyone around us. Even when we make a confession, the truth is that we did so in a strategic attempt to prevent you from digging any deeper and discovering the really despicable stuff we did.” Braun concluded his remarks by asking why reporters bothered to write down a single word from his speech since the entire thing was, in all likelihood, also one giant lie.
Ryan Braun: 'Never Believe Any Of Us'
Sports News in Brief • sports • Baseball • ISSUE 49•30 • Jul 23, 2013
MILWAUKEE—In his first statement after receiving a 65-game suspension from baseball, Brewers slugger Ryan Braun called on fans Tuesday to remember that every single word that he or any other baseball player accused of using steroids has ever said publicly is a lie. “Please be aware that nothing we ever say is true, and when I said that I would ‘bet my life’ I didn’t take steroids, you should have stopped right there and assumed that I took them,” said the former NL MVP, who went on to ask fans whether they really believed that someone who narrowly avoided a 50-game ban for elevated testosterone levels on a technicality could be wrongfully incriminated a second time in two years. “If faced with either telling the truth and losing millions of dollars or lying and keeping our millions of dollars, we’re going to choose to betray the confidence and trust of everyone around us. Even when we make a confession, the truth is that we did so in a strategic attempt to prevent you from digging any deeper and discovering the really despicable stuff we did.” Braun concluded his remarks by asking why reporters bothered to write down a single word from his speech since the entire thing was, in all likelihood, also one giant lie.
Eharmony was closed because they were found to have been performance enhancing on the dating scene. Can't believe they had to annul all the marriages they were able to make because it wasnt natural.
coming out as a steroid user......or as gay? both? :?
If I had known then what I know now...
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Thus my logic is either clean the whole thing up and regulate everything, or make it a free for all. Anything else is necessarily logically hypocritical.
free for all. it always has been.
it's sports. they're not curing cancer.
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and why the fuck is nomar talking about PEDs on baseball tonight?????
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http://www.usada.org/effects-peds/
Interesting...or not.
Tom O.
"I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
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My guess, Mike Piazza
terry forster
But I like the Mo Vaughn guess
http://deadspin.com/former-mlb-scrub-ad ... -914386565
That's it though. He talked about it on the show Firestone worked on
:evil: :evil:
:(
or not
Tom O.
"I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
-The Writer
Sports News in Brief • sports • Baseball • ISSUE 49•30 • Jul 23, 2013
MILWAUKEE—In his first statement after receiving a 65-game suspension from baseball, Brewers slugger Ryan Braun called on fans Tuesday to remember that every single word that he or any other baseball player accused of using steroids has ever said publicly is a lie. “Please be aware that nothing we ever say is true, and when I said that I would ‘bet my life’ I didn’t take steroids, you should have stopped right there and assumed that I took them,” said the former NL MVP, who went on to ask fans whether they really believed that someone who narrowly avoided a 50-game ban for elevated testosterone levels on a technicality could be wrongfully incriminated a second time in two years. “If faced with either telling the truth and losing millions of dollars or lying and keeping our millions of dollars, we’re going to choose to betray the confidence and trust of everyone around us. Even when we make a confession, the truth is that we did so in a strategic attempt to prevent you from digging any deeper and discovering the really despicable stuff we did.” Braun concluded his remarks by asking why reporters bothered to write down a single word from his speech since the entire thing was, in all likelihood, also one giant lie.
http://www.theonion.com/articles/ryan-braun-never-believe-any-of-us,33223/
coming out as a steroid user......or as gay? both? :?
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free for all. it always has been.
it's sports. they're not curing cancer.
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did they get the out at first? :?
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yep!
in that case......
otherwise, I would say.....meh.
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soul-glo?
You also just reminded me of...was it Joe or Phil? Neikro... the nail file scene. priceless.
Nice to see after the way the last two seasons ended with these two
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