Future Days vs Just Breathe

Dirty Frankk · July 2013

Sorry none of those 2

I am playing all day Cold Confession and I can't stop it.....that is one bad ass slow song not JB or FD

lastexit78 · July 2013

Come Back in Black wrote:

lastexit78 wrote:

This is pretty much how I feel as well. MYM is a cool little punk song but nothing special, I'd give it a grade of a B. The other two are some of the most generic tunes I have ever heard them write. D+ for Lightning Bold, D- for Future Days. I'm starting to think this will be the last album, never felt that way before but the quality is just not there. I think even the band knows it deep down. I'm thrilled they are still around and playing together but the evolution of this band probably ended with Rio Act. Avacado & Backspacer were good records but offered nothing new. I really hope the rest of this album has some suprises because right now my expectations are at an all time low.

Niko80 wrote:

No big fan of either but from what I have heard, I have to go with Just Breathe. Future days makes me cringe as well. It is definitely not what I wanted to hear.

Both Future Days and Lightning Bolt has found the skeptic in me for the new album. Im not ready to give up on it just yet off course, but im not holding my breath. MYM was pretty cool. One hit and two (bad) misses for me so far.

The bands does sound good though.

I hear you totally but I really think you need to give Lightening bolt some more listens. Crank up a high quality version and listen to it a few times. I think its a great tune. i like mym but like you said.. its nothing that earth shattering. I'm sure people said the same or worse about lukin when it came out. But I like unthought known a lot too. If you hate that song then i could see you hating this one too i guess. I'm also a huge fan of severed hand and you said you didn't like avocado. I'd take unthought known.. severed hand, and lightening bolt over bushleager any day. As far as songs like Can't keep, Save you and green disease that i like a lot from riot act... when they came out someone could say the same thing you did about them being nothing new and the band stopped evolving prior to that.

But I dont get the hate around here for avocado at all. To me songs like big wave and life wasted are kinda generic but songs like Marker in the Sand, unemployable, aand parachutes are like nothing they ever did before. I dont love parachutes live though. But Marker kills!

http://www.guerrillacandy.com/2013/07/2 ... ning-bolt/

I'm not even a big fan of Riot Act, I just think it was the last time the band went out of their comfort zone. I think Avocado is a better record, Marker is amazing and the first half of the album was solid. Even liked most of Backspacer, Unthought Known is solid and there are some other above average songs. I guess I'm hoping for a new direction that still meshes with the core sound of the band. That's what made No Code & Yield so special and Binaural and Riot Act to a lesser degree. I think they are sadly on a U2 type course. With Avocado being there return to basics record as ATYCLB was for U2. Then U2 decided to follow that same path for two additional records and the results were boring at best. Maybe the well is dry, hey it's been 20 plus years, everything runs its course.

fortyshades · July 2013

lastexit78 wrote:

This is pretty much how I feel as well. MYM is a cool little punk song but nothing special, I'd give it a grade of a B. The other two are some of the most generic tunes I have ever heard them write. D+ for Lightning Bold, D- for Future Days. I'm starting to think this will be the last album, never felt that way before but the quality is just not there. I think even the band knows it deep down. I'm thrilled they are still around and playing together but the evolution of this band probably ended with Rio Act. Avacado & Backspacer were good records but offered nothing new. I really hope the rest of this album has some suprises because right now my expectations are at an all time low.

Niko80 wrote:

No big fan of either but from what I have heard, I have to go with Just Breathe. Future days makes me cringe as well. It is definitely not what I wanted to hear.

Both Future Days and Lightning Bolt has found the skeptic in me for the new album. Im not ready to give up on it just yet off course, but im not holding my breath. MYM was pretty cool. One hit and two (bad) misses for me so far.

The bands does sound good though.

Hold on now. The same thing was said when Binaural came out and when RA came out and when ST came out and when BS came out. First the initial excitement and than the come down. I do not necessarily think it is about the "well drying up" (to whose standards btw?) as the band taking a new direction with their songs. I think this is one of the problems with PJ: that they have a high diversity of songs and play diff. genres. They play classic rock, punk, acoustic ballads pushing towards folk, spoken word and anything in between. This gives them on the one hand an enormous fanbase, but on the other hand it also gives them equal as much anticipation and expectation. Some like the punk songs, others wish they would stop, some only want rock, others want ballads and experimental music etc. They can never abide to all these wishes and expectations. All they can do is be PJ and PJ is punk, rock, midtempo, acoustic and songs with a splash of experimental.

I for one would like them to go all for it and make an enormous experimental album, a rock opera, just one piece of music, that shakes their fanbase to the core. But that is just my perspective.

As for CC; it is a good song and I would love to hear a full blown studio version, but lets all just wait how the studio versions of LB and FD sounds like. For me they start to grow on me and the lyrics are better than first thought. I think this album still has something up its sleeve.

Did anyone notice btw how Ed was looking at Mike during the end of LB? He even said "fuck" at some point. Was the guitar suppose to kick in sooner? That would have certainly given the end of the song some more edge.

october22 · July 2013

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dimitrispearljam · July 2013

Dirty Frankk wrote:

Sorry none of those 2

I am playing all day Cold Confession and I can't stop it.....that is one bad ass slow song not JB or FD

i think we all agree to that

PJSEMPRE · July 2013

I have to confess I'm not a fan of either, but if I had to choose: Just Breathe.

PU38569 · July 2013

Remember when Nothing As It Seems was "the new song" way back when ? How good was that. It was like, this isn't Ten-style funk jam PJ, but it has depth.

It's the depth that seems to be missing from lightning bolt, and similar new-pj fast-track writing (see "backspacer").

Now future days just totally blows and clearly belongs on an Ed solo album - so let's hope that was the "one Ed solo album song" for this album and here won't be anymore. Although i did think Just breathe had depth - it's just it still was Ed solo and not PJ.

It is a shame it has come to this though. Remember when "the Ed solo song" was like super good? (see "Off He Goes"). It's like the majority of the last 2 albums is unusable.

MYM is promising, so let's hope that mike mccready's comment about this new album being pink floydy holds true.

When NAIS was debuted at the bridge school, they also debuted "in thin air". At he time I remember being like "wow this sucks". But they seldom played In Thin Air live after that. Maybe Future Days goes that way too after this show.

I mean, BoB might be unavailable to sit in on tour again for Future Days - he might be busy doing The View, or Oprah, or an Activia commercial, or watching Waiting to Exhale at home alone with a bowl of ice cream and some pickles. And without him, there would be no one to play those super complex Hallmark greeting card jingles.

But, we're definitely going to hear LB again. So hopefully the performance at Wrigley was still a bit rehearsally and it will pack more punch once they have a chance to play together / practice more...........which they won't, because soundgarden will be touring in Europe.

nupur1586 · July 2013

fortyshades wrote:

Did anyone notice btw how Ed was looking at Mike during the end of LB? He even said "fuck" at some point. Was the guitar suppose to kick in sooner? That would have certainly given the end of the song some more edge.

just watched a pretty good video of lightning bolt and that's the first thing i noticed - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfcqbsEIn-g ... something was definitely off .. Ed didn't look happy towards the end

Deadman · July 2013

Absolutely love Future Days. MYM as well. Folks gotta keep in mind studio gonna sound different

october22 · July 2013

nupur1586 wrote:

fortyshades wrote:

Did anyone notice btw how Ed was looking at Mike during the end of LB? He even said "fuck" at some point. Was the guitar suppose to kick in sooner? That would have certainly given the end of the song some more edge.

just watched a pretty good video of lightning bolt and that's the first thing i noticed - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfcqbsEIn-g ... something was definitely off .. Ed didn't look happy towards the end

He actually threw a "fuck" Mike's way. That much was very clear. I think he came in late or something. Kind of made Ed look like a dick.

fdl9 · July 2013

Spags wrote:

There really shouldn't be any need for anybody to ever have to put IMO after comments on the internet - its like a universal given that what people are typing is their own opinion. It would get old faster than banging on about people having a sense of entitlement in every thread.

I remember my 10th grade English teacher that you never needed to say "I think" in an essay, since it is your writing. Same applies here. we are all just expressing our opinions/thoughts/feelings.

If you dont like a song, just skip it and find one you do like. Life is too short.

Niko80 · July 2013

fortyshades wrote:

lastexit78 wrote:

This is pretty much how I feel as well. MYM is a cool little punk song but nothing special, I'd give it a grade of a B. The other two are some of the most generic tunes I have ever heard them write. D+ for Lightning Bold, D- for Future Days. I'm starting to think this will be the last album, never felt that way before but the quality is just not there. I think even the band knows it deep down. I'm thrilled they are still around and playing together but the evolution of this band probably ended with Rio Act. Avacado & Backspacer were good records but offered nothing new. I really hope the rest of this album has some suprises because right now my expectations are at an all time low.

Niko80 wrote:

No big fan of either but from what I have heard, I have to go with Just Breathe. Future days makes me cringe as well. It is definitely not what I wanted to hear.

Both Future Days and Lightning Bolt has found the skeptic in me for the new album. Im not ready to give up on it just yet off course, but im not holding my breath. MYM was pretty cool. One hit and two (bad) misses for me so far.

The bands does sound good though.

Hold on now. The same thing was said when Binaural came out and when RA came out and when ST came out and when BS came out. First the initial excitement and than the come down. I do not necessarily think it is about the "well drying up" (to whose standards btw?) as the band taking a new direction with their songs. I think this is one of the problems with PJ: that they have a high diversity of songs and play diff. genres. They play classic rock, punk, acoustic ballads pushing towards folk, spoken word and anything in between. This gives them on the one hand an enormous fanbase, but on the other hand it also gives them equal as much anticipation and expectation. Some like the punk songs, others wish they would stop, some only want rock, others want ballads and experimental music etc. They can never abide to all these wishes and expectations. All they can do is be PJ and PJ is punk, rock, midtempo, acoustic and songs with a splash of experimental.

Yes, there have been skeptics about pretty much every album since vs, and I have been there for all of them with mixed feelings every time. VS didn’t sound like ten, Vitalogy sounded too dark, What the hell is this? (No code). But the difference then has always been that there has always been something there to stir my interest. I didn’t find the joy with the music because I couldn’t fully grasp it. Even though I was a pessimist, the mystique of the music was overwhelming and had to be concurred. Eventually I found what I was looking for. The PJ feeling, the music that took me places. Pearl Jam was the only band that could spin me around, roll me over… It has been a fucking circus. At least of the bands I have had the chance to follow. Pink Floyd has also managed this, but I am too young to have been there for the ride. Pearl Jam and Eddie seemed to have some sort of power over me, and they obviously knew me better than I knew myself sometimes, so it seemed. This relationship is fading now, and I think it is awfully sad to acknowledge it.

So Pearl Jam has taken their songwriting in new directions with every single album. Nothing wrong with that off course, but with Backspacer and the first tastes of LB, the soul and magic is gone for me. I want to like this stuff, but I am unable to.

It becomes more and more evident that PJ and I have travelled different routes. I will always treasure the irreplaceable jewelry they gave me in the 90’s. That music will always be extremely valuable to me. There has been some great stuff in the 2000’s as well, but further between them. As for now, I am hoping that the new album will have something for me too, but as I have said here and in other posts, I worry the new album will have little to offer me personally.

If so happens, I will accept it and move on. Pearl Jam owes me absolutely nothing and I hope they stay together to play and make new music for a long time. I will be there listening.

fortyshades · July 2013

Niko80 wrote:

fortyshades wrote:

This is pretty much how I feel as well. MYM is a cool little punk song but nothing special, I'd give it a grade of a B. The other two are some of the most generic tunes I have ever heard them write. D+ for Lightning Bold, D- for Future Days. I'm starting to think this will be the last album, never felt that way before but the quality is just not there. I think even the band knows it deep down. I'm thrilled they are still around and playing together but the evolution of this band probably ended with Rio Act. Avacado & Backspacer were good records but offered nothing new. I really hope the rest of this album has some suprises because right now my expectations are at an all time low.

Niko80 wrote:

Hold on now. The same thing was said when Binaural came out and when RA came out and when ST came out and when BS came out. First the initial excitement and than the come down. I do not necessarily think it is about the "well drying up" (to whose standards btw?) as the band taking a new direction with their songs. I think this is one of the problems with PJ: that they have a high diversity of songs and play diff. genres. They play classic rock, punk, acoustic ballads pushing towards folk, spoken word and anything in between. This gives them on the one hand an enormous fanbase, but on the other hand it also gives them equal as much anticipation and expectation. Some like the punk songs, others wish they would stop, some only want rock, others want ballads and experimental music etc. They can never abide to all these wishes and expectations. All they can do is be PJ and PJ is punk, rock, midtempo, acoustic and songs with a splash of experimental.

Yes, there have been skeptics about pretty much every album since vs, and I have been there for all of them with mixed feelings every time. VS didn’t sound like ten, Vitalogy sounded too dark, What the hell is this? (No code). But the difference then has always been that there has always been something there to stir my interest. I didn’t find the joy with the music because I couldn’t fully grasp it. Even though I was a pessimist, the mystique of the music was overwhelming and had to be concurred. Eventually I found what I was looking for. The PJ feeling, the music that took me places. Pearl Jam was the only band that could spin me around, roll me over… It has been a fucking circus. At least of the bands I have had the chance to follow. Pink Floyd has also managed this, but I am too young to have been there for the ride. Pearl Jam and Eddie seemed to have some sort of power over me, and they obviously knew me better than I knew myself sometimes, so it seemed. This relationship is fading now, and I think it is awfully sad to acknowledge it.

So Pearl Jam has taken their songwriting in new directions with every single album. Nothing wrong with that off course, but with Backspacer and the first tastes of LB, the soul and magic is gone for me. I want to like this stuff, but I am unable to.

It becomes more and more evident that PJ and I have travelled different routes. I will always treasure the irreplaceable jewelry they gave me in the 90’s. That music will always be extremely valuable to me. There has been some great stuff in the 2000’s as well, but further between them. As for now, I am hoping that the new album will have something for me too, but as I have said here and in other posts, I worry the new album will have little to offer me personally.

If so happens, I will accept it and move on. Pearl Jam owes me absolutely nothing and I hope they stay together to play and make new music for a long time. I will be there listening.

The point I'm trying to make is: we only heard three songs. A punk, a midtemp and a slow song; this album has undoubdetly more up its sleeve. Imagine if people would write a whole album off when Who You Are came out. (And many people wanted too.) Or even NAIS (which not everyone liked), and still don't . I am not even discussing Thin Air. We have to see the songs in the context of the album. Than you still might not like it, but at least it is based on the whole album.

For me, I liked BS and I think they created also some new fans here. They are going in a diff. direction. It might not suite you, but that is what this band is: they go into uncharted terrain. No need to think that the well is "dried up". (I thought that when RA came out and here they still are many years later.)

Niko80 · July 2013

I am talking about the trend, the evolution of pj music from my own point of view. The trend of me losing touch with pj has been going on since Riot Act. And up until this piont it has been a constant one.

When I talk about the new songs, it looks like the trend will continue. Like I said in my post, I havent given up on the new album. My point is merely that i am not able to follow the band as closely as I hoped to be. With news of new material, I always get some of this hope back ,that I can wrap my mind around pjs music again and love it like I used to. But it doesnt look like it will happen this time.

Dont misunderstand me, I am talking from what I have heard so far. Whatever coming in october will come. New discussions then

dimitrispearljam · July 2013

good conversation Netherlands-Norway!

Niko80 · July 2013

dimitrispearljam wrote:

good conversation Netherlands-Norway!

We need some greek spices

jumbojet · July 2013

Niko80 wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

good conversation Netherlands-Norway!

We need some greek spices

I like European session of this forum.

In US session, I need to go to sleep. :roll:

deserteddotse · July 2013

YieldToNothing wrote:

i hate both of these songs

i understand ed is starting to have this old man tendency to write crap like this, but this is why you make solo records.

EVERY FUCKING SONG on Moonlander is not only better, but shits all over, both of these garbage songs.

i shouldn't have to fast forward on a pearl jam record. i never did on the first 8.

dear ed,
i love you
but if you wanna write filler
make it like aye davanita

Eilian · July 2013

dimitrispearljam wrote:

Dirty Frankk wrote:

Sorry none of those 2

I am playing all day Cold Confession and I can't stop it.....that is one bad ass slow song not JB or FD

i think we all agree to that

I don't.

Cold Confession got left off the record for very good reason to my ear.

Both Just Breathe and Future Days are lovely tunes, and I find it difficult to imagine much better musical expressions from a happy husband and father. Trying to recreate the melancholy and angst of stuff like Black now would sound contrived and artificial.

Writing a few commercially accessible records within the context of a 20 year career is no bad thing. I worry that the objection is one of elitism and pretentiousness more than genuine musical preference.

dimitrispearljam · July 2013

Eilian wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

Dirty Frankk wrote:

Sorry none of those 2

I am playing all day Cold Confession and I can't stop it.....that is one bad ass slow song not JB or FD

i think we all agree to that

I don't.

Cold Confession got left off the record for very good reason to my ear.

Both Just Breathe and Future Days are lovely tunes, and I find it difficult to imagine much better musical expressions from a happy husband and father. Trying to recreate the melancholy and angst of stuff like Black now would sound contrived and artificial.

Writing a few commercially accessible records within the context of a 20 year career is no bad thing. I worry that the objection is one of elitism and pretentiousness more than genuine musical preference.

ok.!!!i feel im so relaxed lately and some are so intense,and i cant follow!!all good..all ok!!!

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