Future Days vs Just Breathe

fortyshades · July 2013

Suziemay wrote:

When Ed sat down with his acoustic guitar, I thought "oh no, Just Breathe!". When he introduced it as a new song, I thought "oh no, Just Breath part 2!". But I think I quite like Future Days, at least much better than Just Breathe. Need to give it a few listens.

On the other hand, I never need to hear Just Breathe ever again :oops: :oops:

And that is ok too. (no :oops: needed.) I like to hear Just Breathe and do not care too much for Even Flow live, but that is just my personal preference. I will still rock out on Mike's solo's, but do not care much about the structure of the song. I cringed btw by the lyrics of LBC when I first heard it - with the exception of the chorus. Once again, we can all have our opinions; nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with expressing them. What I am railing against is expressing your opinion relentlessly and continuisly and taking it is an universal "truth". Some hummility is in place and also the capablity of placing your opinion to the opinions of others. Some like Just Breathe. Some hate it. That is the nature of the beast. The whole negativity on this board is dragging the community down. Porch has become a bitch fest. And in that light I will stop for i am fueling the machine and that is the last thing I want to do.

I cannot make out all the lyrics of Future Days, but I think there is a difference between FD and JB; where JB is more about the loss, or the sense of loss, in relationships, FD is more about the promise it brings.

fortyshades · July 2013

Spags wrote:

fortyshades wrote:

Try to put some IMO in your sentences. "This shits all over IMO", these are "garbage songs IMO" etc. You make it sound that these are universal truths and they are not. It is your conception, your intepretation, your subjective state of mind.

There really shouldn't be any need for anybody to ever have to put IMO after comments on the internet - its like a universal given that what people are typing is their own opinion. It would get old faster than banging on about people having a sense of entitlement in every thread.

Well Spags (I have to look up that word; what the hell does it mean?), I think to some there is no IMO; they think they carry the knowledge of rock music, and what it should be and what it should sound like in their palm of their hands. They may have a guitar in the attic somewhere and can play Blackbird, but still, they have all the knowledge. "These songs are shit" are pretty universal statements. There is no motivation, no argument, to back up these well-out-thought claims - that would actually imply an adult debate. These are just one liners. (And within this lies a world of difference.)

Concerning your last sentence: I actually hardly get involved into these negative threads. I most of the time ignore them. So I did not do too much banging, I am afraid. On the other hand, I also think that as a fanbase, some self reflection is in place and this entitlement, well, gets tired at best.

Digital Twilight · July 2013

Veddernarian wrote:

To me, future days sounds more like thumbing my way but with piano. For the slower acoustic songs, you just can't beat small town. Wish it sounded more like that. Or oceans for that matter.

I think Thumbing My Way is one of Pearl Jam's best 'slow' songs. I wish they would play it more.

pleatherman · July 2013

fortyshades wrote:

I just heard the live version on You Tube.

I think that they are two distinct songs with their own atmosphere. There are similarities in the theme's, but hell, the guys are parents now, their lifes and outlook on life changed; these are their concerns on their minds now. Being a dad myself - and knowing how much this has changed me - I can relate. I would be more concerned, and would consider it more a sell-out, if they are still striving for teenage angst. (As they did with Ten and Vs. - which was ok, for they were younger.) They grow (grew-up) and therefore the themes in their songs change.

Sorry to maybe derail your OP, but I came back from vacation, opened the Porch (and TSIS) and was like wtf!? I was amazed by the negativity on these board(s). (So they have some ballads and mid-tempo songs on their new record; who cares; they always did! You cannot deter or judge an whole album by three songs!) Where are the good old days that people got excited about songs instead of only judgemental? So you may not like a new song, so you may not like the outro, you may not like the keyboard or a piano (I welcome it, for it gives the song a fragility and it is something diff. they only did a few times) or even blame the producer etc. etc. etc. Wait until you hear the whole thing! And if you wanted another Ten, another Vs., another Vitalogy, another No Code, another Yield, pick up the record and play it on your turn table. I want a band that changes and not a band that do the same trick over and over again. No musician, true musician or artist, that takes itself seriously, can do that, should do that nor should we want that. If you do want that, and like fomulatic writing, there are enough bands out there: some bands come to mind, that write album after album, still being "angry" and writing the same old melodies and songs because it "rocks", while they are grandfathers and just tab into the rebellious nature of the "young".

Once again sorry for the derailment, but just have to get this off my chest. The relentless putting down of BS, the relentless "this is not ok, that is not ok" is starting to stiffle us as a community and it is unfortunate. This used to be fun, now I get to the point that I don't even want to check out these forums anymore. If I click on some names they wrote 100+ posts on how much they hated BS. I mean wtf!? You made your point. You made your statement. And who (tf) cares?

Sorry for the second derailment.

To get to your head topic. Yeah, I see similarities, but also hear two distinct songs with just an overarching theme, that has to do with growing older and seeing life in a broader context and pespective. Kids will do that to you.

Ps: my reactive comments were not aimed at the OP. I am just venting I guess.

You wrote it, so I don't have to. I have a feeling the new album is going to surprise people by taking the music into some uncharted territory. The songs we've heard will provide an anchor for material that will be considered sort of "out-there".

As for Future Days, I like it more than Just Breathe. It has to do with the vocal melody more than anything else. And from that standpoint, its closest relative is probably 'Skipping'.

YieldToNothing · July 2013

fortyshades wrote:

Spags wrote:

fortyshades wrote:

Try to put some IMO in your sentences. "This shits all over IMO", these are "garbage songs IMO" etc. You make it sound that these are universal truths and they are not. It is your conception, your intepretation, your subjective state of mind.

There really shouldn't be any need for anybody to ever have to put IMO after comments on the internet - its like a universal given that what people are typing is their own opinion. It would get old faster than banging on about people having a sense of entitlement in every thread.

Well Spags (I have to look up that word; what the hell does it mean?), I think to some there is no IMO; they think they carry the knowledge of rock music, and what it should be and what it should sound like in their palm of their hands. They may have a guitar in the attic somewhere and can play Blackbird, but still, they have all the knowledge. "These songs are shit" are pretty universal statements. There is no motivation, no argument, to back up these well-out-thought claims - that would actually imply an adult debate. These are just one liners. (And within this lies a world of difference.)

Concerning your last sentence: I actually hardly get involved into these negative threads. I most of the time ignore them. So I did not do too much banging, I am afraid. On the other hand, I also think that as a fanbase, some self reflection is in place and this entitlement, well, gets tired at best.

now you're being a dick
i told you exactly why these songs suck and you refuse to acknowledge or rebut my argument

DewieCox · July 2013

I like both songs enough, but yeah they do seem to follow a pretty similar dynamic.

I think alot of PJ's more recent stuff has tried to capture something that an earlier song already accomplished without sounding forced or being oversimplified.

fortyshades · July 2013

YieldToNothing wrote:

fortyshades wrote:

Spags wrote:

There really shouldn't be any need for anybody to ever have to put IMO after comments on the internet - its like a universal given that what people are typing is their own opinion. It would get old faster than banging on about people having a sense of entitlement in every thread.

Well Spags (I have to look up that word; what the hell does it mean?), I think to some there is no IMO; they think they carry the knowledge of rock music, and what it should be and what it should sound like in their palm of their hands. They may have a guitar in the attic somewhere and can play Blackbird, but still, they have all the knowledge. "These songs are shit" are pretty universal statements. There is no motivation, no argument, to back up these well-out-thought claims - that would actually imply an adult debate. These are just one liners. (And within this lies a world of difference.)

Concerning your last sentence: I actually hardly get involved into these negative threads. I most of the time ignore them. So I did not do too much banging, I am afraid. On the other hand, I also think that as a fanbase, some self reflection is in place and this entitlement, well, gets tired at best.

now you're being a dick
i told you exactly why these songs suck and you refuse to acknowledge or rebut my argument

Thanks my friend. I am always willing to comply.

I did respond to your post above - directly. I think your argument was: they are simple tunes and a fifteen year old could write them. Let me see, yep, I responded to it.Let me summarize: what is wrong with simple tunes, why compare all the tunes and not enjoy them in their own right, and I think that the lyrics may seem simple but holds a world of life experience within them and are much more complexed arranged than meets the ear. Yep, that was my response. Sorry if, by that, I didn't "rebute" your "arguments".

ceska · July 2013

I thought Future Days was the new The End, not the new Just Breathe. These songs fit his voice much better than Mind Your Manners. Now there's a song with some clunky lyrics.

Niko80 · July 2013

No big fan of either but from what I have heard, I have to go with Just Breathe. Future days makes me cringe as well. It is definitely not what I wanted to hear.

Both Future Days and Lightning Bolt has found the skeptic in me for the new album. Im not ready to give up on it just yet off course, but im not holding my breath. MYM was pretty cool. One hit and two (bad) misses for me so far.

The bands does sound good though.

DiRtyFranK38 · July 2013

Very interesting answers everyone. I like Future Days better for THIS REASON...

Though I do like like Just Breathe, I don't love it because it does have a certain jingle jangle sound to it like a poppy country song... Great lyrics, yes. But the strings and the jangle to it make it at times a bit cheesy for my taste.

Future Days on the other hand, while in the same realm of soft acoustic ballad, reminds me much more of say, a Springsteen song... It sounds like you're typical mature ballad and has honest sentiment (not that JB doesn't). It just sounds like more authentic. Hopefully the studio version doesn't have added cheese, but it reminded me of Springsteen, which I liked.

PJForceofNature · July 2013

I love both songs. I certainly wouldn't mind hearing them at every concert I attend in the future!

The first time I heard "Just Breathe" was at the Bridge concert in 2010. I had never even heard PJ until that night. "Just Breathe" and "Black" were the two songs that stuck with me, long after the concert ended.

YieldToNothing · July 2013

both songs make me long for the days when thumbing my way was the worst song on the setlist.

fortyshades · July 2013

Has anyone the complete lyrics of these songs btw? I can make out some stuff, but not all. For some reason I can't seem to find them or are too tired to seek - one or the other.

DH62179 · July 2013

I actually thought it sounded kinda cool musically the one time I listened to it, a little like Indifference. Although the lyrics did make me cringe a bit, they were just a little too much. By the way I always hate it when people say IMO. If I'm saying it, it is obviously my opinion and it goes without saying unless we are talking about something that is a universal truth, but i don't feel that opinions on PJ songs fall into that category, IMO.

Niko80 · July 2013

DH62179 wrote:

I actually thought it sounded kinda cool musically the one time I listened to it, a little like Indifference. Although the lyrics did make me cringe a bit, they were just a little too much. By the way I always hate it when people say IMO. If I'm saying it, it is obviously my opinion and it goes without saying unless we are talking about something that is a universal truth, but i don't feel that opinions on PJ songs fall into that category, IMO.

'Taste' is as subjective as it comes. And that is an universal truth

DiRtyFranK38 · July 2013

YieldToNothing wrote:

both songs make me long for the days when thumbing my way was the worst song on the setlist.

thumbing my way blows away both. amazing song.

october22 · July 2013

deleted. I felt bad.

butte1 · July 2013

YieldToNothing wrote:

i hate both of these songs

i understand ed is starting to have this old man tendency to write crap like this, but this is why you make solo records.

EVERY FUCKING SONG on Moonlander is not only better, but shits all over, both of these garbage songs.

i shouldn't have to fast forward on a pearl jam record. i never did on the first 8.

dear ed,
i love you
but if you wanna write filler
make it like aye davanita

This is your opinion not universal fact... for my part I think Moonlander is unlistenable and a bit overthought in it's lyrics IMHO... personally I like Just Breathe, I liked it originally and I still like it, I will admit it sounded more like a tune that probably should have been on the Into the Wild soundtrack, which tells me it is really an Ed solo track but it doesn't mean I don't like it and it's on a PJ album so I guess that makes it a PJ song but it is not "shit"... I like Just Breather and Future Days better than anything on Moonlander, the thing is opinions are like a$$holes, everyone has one and everyone's stinks except your own..... I look forward to the new album as MYM is ridiculously good and rocks hard without them tryin gto be something they are not while Future Days tells a simple story of truth in their state of life.... I love most of the old stuff bbut not all, I have never understood or liked foxymophandleblahblahblah.... I still hate Bushleaguer with a passion and while it may sound blasphemous I grew tired of Garden a long time ago, not a bad song but one I hit skip on everytime I listen to Ten.... just saying you are entitled to your opinion but it doesn't make your opinion fact

Edrock78 · July 2013

YieldToNothing wrote:

i hate both of these songs

i understand ed is starting to have this old man tendency to write crap like this, but this is why you make solo records.

EVERY FUCKING SONG on Moonlander is not only better, but shits all over, both of these garbage songs.

i shouldn't have to fast forward on a pearl jam record. i never did on the first 8.

dear ed,
i love you
but if you wanna write filler
make it like aye davanita

For the most part I have to agree with this. And music wise I think moonlander is a very good album. I wish Stone would get back to writing most of the music.

Alfonz · July 2013

If people took their blinkers off, stepped back and imagine some unknown band singing Future Days ... what would you think? I can't imagine anyone would think it was even remotely close to good.

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