Is PJ digital or analog in the studio
TheDecline13
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Subject says it all, is this documented any where?
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Bump, It got buried under the might WrigleyTour with fucking NOFX0
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They recorded to analog up through at least Riot Act, but would transfer to digital before putting the music to cd and vinyl.0
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DewieCox wrote:They recorded to analog up through at least Riot Act, but would transfer to digital before putting the music to cd and vinyl.
So they the master would be digital?Tour with fucking NOFX0 -
They are all digital now, cuz that's how BoB (and I guess the band too) likes it.
I dig the Foo Fighters approach more of doing it analog.
A band that talks so kindly about vinyl should really do it analog I think. But digital is easier and faster I guess."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Definitely analog! :P0
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Most likely it is a bit of both.
Even Dave/Foo Fighters route things into digital after the initial tracking. As long as it's tracked direct to real tape the authentic sound is captured, after that it goes into Pro Tools in a lot of cases. Everything is digital in regards to mastering these days, it is far superior, no question there.Dallas, TX 11-12-1993 | Austin, TX 09-16-1995 | Dallas, TX 07-05-1998 | The Woodlands, TX 10-15-2000 | Dallas, TX 10-17-2000 | Camden, NJ 07-05-2003 | Las Vegas, NV 07-06-2006 | Honolulu, HI 12-09-2006 | Chicago, IL 08-05-2007 | New York, NY 05-21-2010 | Dallas, TX 11-15-2013 | OKC, OK 11-16-2013 | Tulsa, OK 10-09-20140 -
I pretty certain BoB has said that he likes to use all digital, and not use tapes. So, I think there is a possibility they do it all digital.RS146614 wrote:Most likely it is a bit of both.
Even Dave/Foo Fighters route things into digital after the initial tracking. As long as it's tracked direct to real tape the authentic sound is captured, after that it goes into Pro Tools in a lot of cases. Everything is digital in regards to mastering these days, it is far superior, no question there."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
I hope PJ has some better dynamic range on this release. Even on vinyl these need improvement.
A great read:
http://productionadvice.co.uk/daft-punk-mastering/++++++++++++++++++++++++++++0 -
Yea I am pretty sure it is all digital, well the latest stuff sure is. Avocado is brickwalled :fp:Tour with fucking NOFX0
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I was actually in the same studio they worked on lighting bolt in about 2 weeks after they wrapped. It's a popular studio in LA and im 99% sure they recorded in all digital...Further back and forth a wave will break on me, today...0
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TheDecline13 wrote:Yea I am pretty sure it is all digital, well the latest stuff sure is. Avocado is brickwalled :fp:
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Gmoney wrote:I was actually in the same studio they worked on lighting bolt in about 2 weeks after they wrapped. It's a popular studio in LA and im 99% sure they recorded in all digital...
Do they save $20/year like the rest of us by going Digital???

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They were asked this around the release of Backspacer:
The main recording is analog; the overdubs are digital.0 -
TheDecline13 wrote:Yea I am pretty sure it is all digital, well the latest stuff sure is. Avocado is brickwalled :fp:
Stuff can be brickwalled regardless of how it's recorded. The last 2 PJ albums have not sounded good..0 -
Vinyl rips of Backspacer & S/T sound much better than the CD counterparts. This has nothing to do with digital / analog though recording though as many digitally recorded albums do not end up sounding brickwalled. S/T sounds worse than Backspacer though. This is just my opinion but I took my fair share of audio engineering courses in college and have some knowledge on the subject.0
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Stephen Flow wrote:Vinyl rips of Backspacer & S/T sound much better than the CD counterparts. This has nothing to do with digital / analog though recording though as many digitally recorded albums do not end up sounding brickwalled. S/T sounds worse than Backspacer though. This is just my opinion but I took my fair share of audio engineering courses in college and have some knowledge on the subject.
Given that they all have the same master as their cd counterparts I can't see how that would be the case. Could somebody with a little know how make them sound better? Likely, but I can't see them being improved that much.
S/T vinyl still has that harshness and Backspacer is pretty muddy on the denser tracks.
I'm inclined to think that high res rips of the cd's with a little fixing would probably sound best of all.
Either way, no reason those release don't sound better than they do.0 -
DewieCox wrote:Stephen Flow wrote:Vinyl rips of Backspacer & S/T sound much better than the CD counterparts. This has nothing to do with digital / analog though recording though as many digitally recorded albums do not end up sounding brickwalled. S/T sounds worse than Backspacer though. This is just my opinion but I took my fair share of audio engineering courses in college and have some knowledge on the subject.
Given that they all have the same master as their cd counterparts I can't see how that would be the case. Could somebody with a little know how make them sound better? Likely, but I can't see them being improved that much.
S/T vinyl still has that harshness and Backspacer is pretty muddy on the denser tracks.
I'm inclined to think that high res rips of the cd's with a little fixing would probably sound best of all.
Either way, no reason those release don't sound better than they do.
Form what I understand of it, vinyl records have physical limitations that a digital recording simply do not have. This comes into play when working with compression and loudness because a vinyl record doesn't have the data capacity that a CD does... somehow it prevents SOME brickwalling... maybe I'm wrong but this is how I've always understood it.0 -
Too much digital and the music is robbed of its qi, too much analogue and it gets stuck in a swamp. It's basic yin / yang theory man
It's impossible to recreate certain harmonics in digital - Yield on original vinyl is a fine example of a balanced record. 'Tone' is much more important than 'dynamic range' to me.Cancel my subscription to the Ressurection
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