Is PJ digital or analog in the studio

TheDecline13TheDecline13 Posts: 990
edited July 2013 in The Porch
Subject says it all, is this documented any where?
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  • TheDecline13TheDecline13 Posts: 990
    Bump, It got buried under the might Wrigley
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,431
    They recorded to analog up through at least Riot Act, but would transfer to digital before putting the music to cd and vinyl.
  • TheDecline13TheDecline13 Posts: 990
    DewieCox wrote:
    They recorded to analog up through at least Riot Act, but would transfer to digital before putting the music to cd and vinyl.

    So they the master would be digital?
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,265
    They are all digital now, cuz that's how BoB (and I guess the band too) likes it.

    I dig the Foo Fighters approach more of doing it analog.

    A band that talks so kindly about vinyl should really do it analog I think. But digital is easier and faster I guess.
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  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 95,565
    Definitely analog! :P

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  • RS146614RS146614 Dallas, Texas Posts: 54
    Most likely it is a bit of both.

    Even Dave/Foo Fighters route things into digital after the initial tracking. As long as it's tracked direct to real tape the authentic sound is captured, after that it goes into Pro Tools in a lot of cases. Everything is digital in regards to mastering these days, it is far superior, no question there.
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,265
    RS146614 wrote:
    Most likely it is a bit of both.

    Even Dave/Foo Fighters route things into digital after the initial tracking. As long as it's tracked direct to real tape the authentic sound is captured, after that it goes into Pro Tools in a lot of cases. Everything is digital in regards to mastering these days, it is far superior, no question there.
    I pretty certain BoB has said that he likes to use all digital, and not use tapes. So, I think there is a possibility they do it all digital.
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  • Johnny WongJohnny Wong Wauwatosa, WI Posts: 194
    I hope PJ has some better dynamic range on this release. Even on vinyl these need improvement.

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  • TheDecline13TheDecline13 Posts: 990
    Yea I am pretty sure it is all digital, well the latest stuff sure is. Avocado is brickwalled :fp:
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  • GmoneyGmoney Posts: 1,618
    I was actually in the same studio they worked on lighting bolt in about 2 weeks after they wrapped. It's a popular studio in LA and im 99% sure they recorded in all digital...
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  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,938
    Yea I am pretty sure it is all digital, well the latest stuff sure is. Avocado is brickwalled :fp:

    I never noticed this. I must not have an audiophile's ear.
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  • NAUjackfanNAUjackfan Phoenix Posts: 2,340
    Gmoney wrote:
    I was actually in the same studio they worked on lighting bolt in about 2 weeks after they wrapped. It's a popular studio in LA and im 99% sure they recorded in all digital...

    Do they save $20/year like the rest of us by going Digital??? :lol:
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  • mookeywrenchmookeywrench Posts: 5,993
    They were asked this around the release of Backspacer:

    The main recording is analog; the overdubs are digital.
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,431
    Yea I am pretty sure it is all digital, well the latest stuff sure is. Avocado is brickwalled :fp:

    Stuff can be brickwalled regardless of how it's recorded. The last 2 PJ albums have not sounded good..
  • Stephen FlowStephen Flow Posts: 3,327
    Vinyl rips of Backspacer & S/T sound much better than the CD counterparts. This has nothing to do with digital / analog though recording though as many digitally recorded albums do not end up sounding brickwalled. S/T sounds worse than Backspacer though. This is just my opinion but I took my fair share of audio engineering courses in college and have some knowledge on the subject.
  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,431
    Vinyl rips of Backspacer & S/T sound much better than the CD counterparts. This has nothing to do with digital / analog though recording though as many digitally recorded albums do not end up sounding brickwalled. S/T sounds worse than Backspacer though. This is just my opinion but I took my fair share of audio engineering courses in college and have some knowledge on the subject.

    Given that they all have the same master as their cd counterparts I can't see how that would be the case. Could somebody with a little know how make them sound better? Likely, but I can't see them being improved that much.

    S/T vinyl still has that harshness and Backspacer is pretty muddy on the denser tracks.

    I'm inclined to think that high res rips of the cd's with a little fixing would probably sound best of all.

    Either way, no reason those release don't sound better than they do.
  • AdamcadoAdamcado Posts: 74
    DewieCox wrote:
    The last 2 PJ albums have not sounded good..

    Backspacer in particular is horrible, especially if you compare it to the beautiful warm sound of Yield.
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  • Stephen FlowStephen Flow Posts: 3,327
    DewieCox wrote:
    Vinyl rips of Backspacer & S/T sound much better than the CD counterparts. This has nothing to do with digital / analog though recording though as many digitally recorded albums do not end up sounding brickwalled. S/T sounds worse than Backspacer though. This is just my opinion but I took my fair share of audio engineering courses in college and have some knowledge on the subject.

    Given that they all have the same master as their cd counterparts I can't see how that would be the case. Could somebody with a little know how make them sound better? Likely, but I can't see them being improved that much.

    S/T vinyl still has that harshness and Backspacer is pretty muddy on the denser tracks.

    I'm inclined to think that high res rips of the cd's with a little fixing would probably sound best of all.

    Either way, no reason those release don't sound better than they do.

    Form what I understand of it, vinyl records have physical limitations that a digital recording simply do not have. This comes into play when working with compression and loudness because a vinyl record doesn't have the data capacity that a CD does... somehow it prevents SOME brickwalling... maybe I'm wrong but this is how I've always understood it.
  • tremorstremors Posts: 8,051
    Too much digital and the music is robbed of its qi, too much analogue and it gets stuck in a swamp. It's basic yin / yang theory man

    It's impossible to recreate certain harmonics in digital - Yield on original vinyl is a fine example of a balanced record. 'Tone' is much more important than 'dynamic range' to me.
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