Cops: they're not all bad.

brianlux
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Reading this forum lately, one would think all cops are bad. That's just not the case. For example:
http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2013/obit ... -0419.html
http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2013/obit ... -0419.html
"It's a sad and beautiful world"
-Roberto Benigni
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I agree, if not for the actions of this police officer, this family would have never made 6.5 million in there lifetime.
Although i admit if they hadn't have tried to cover it up, the family probably wouldn't have received so much.
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I do hold them (and others in similar positions) to a higher standard, but the realistic side of me understands that their spectrum - as with any group, as with all of us - runs from hero to monster.
Fortunately, my direct / personal experiences with them have been positive, and immensely helpful & comforting.0 -
hedonist wrote:I do hold them (and others in similar positions) to a higher standard, but the realistic side of me understands that their spectrum - as with any group, as with all of us - runs from hero to monster.
Fortunately, my direct / personal experiences with them have been positive, and immensely helpful & comforting.
Good to hear!
I was released from a hospital once under heavy medication and I was really out of it. The hospital staff just had me sign a paper and out I went... in socks and scrubs only... at night... with a twelve mile up-hill walk to my home at the 4,000 foot elevation. I got about a quarter mile when a local cop saw me stumbling down the street and inquired what was up with me. I told him my story and he said, "Hop in, I'll give you a ride home." That man was an angel in blue!"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487They aren't all bad, it's just that the bad ones seem to be multiplying and getting more and more abusive.0
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unsung wrote:They aren't all bad, it's just that the bad ones seem to be multiplying and getting more and more abusive.
All the more reason to talk about and encourage the good ones and recognize the selfless, courageous and brave acts of the the good ones."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
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I'm not sure how they are over in other countries but my beef lies with the ones here who really abuse their power instead of helping people. I agree, there are some fantastic police, some true heroes its just some very arrogant and ignorant ones that ruin their reputation.
Not long back, one stopped my mothers car because her automatic headlights had not come on yet. In all fairness, dusk had only just started and it wasn't dark yet but fair enough he did it for safety reasons. Now he knew that my mothers model of car did put its lights on automatically and when she went to tell him that, he dismissed her saying "yes, yes, yes, I know that!". Very rudely.
Then he insisted on checking her car out and by this time, my little girl had had a big day. She starts crying and throwing a bit of a tanty and he comes over and shines his freaking torch straight into her face. Understandably, my little one gets even more upset so my Mum says "I don't mean to be rude but if I haven't done anything wrong can I please go because my little granddaughter is really upset" to which he says " I can keep you here all night if I have to" and starts to check all of her wheels???
He kept us there for about 20 minutes in total which was ridiculous. I understand him stopping us but why the attitude?“ "Thank you Palestrina. It’s a wonderful evening, it’s great to be here and I wanna dedicate you a super sexy song." " (last words of Mark Sandman of Morphine)
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Loulou wrote:I'm not sure how they are over in other countries but my beef lies with the ones here who really abuse their power instead of helping people. I agree, there are some fantastic police, some true heroes its just some very arrogant and ignorant ones that ruin their reputation.
Not long back, one stopped my mothers car because her automatic headlights had not come on yet. In all fairness, dusk had only just started and it wasn't dark yet but fair enough he did it for safety reasons. Now he knew that my mothers model of car did put its lights on automatically and when she went to tell him that, he dismissed her saying "yes, yes, yes, I know that!". Very rudely.
Then he insisted on checking her car out and by this time, my little girl had had a big day. She starts crying and throwing a bit of a tanty and he comes over and shines his freaking torch straight into her face. Understandably, my little one gets even more upset so my Mum says "I don't mean to be rude but if I haven't done anything wrong can I please go because my little granddaughter is really upset" to which he says " I can keep you here all night if I have to" and starts to check all of her wheels???
He kept us there for about 20 minutes in total which was ridiculous. I understand him stopping us but why the attitude?
I understand where your coming from, Loulou. I've had my my bad run in's as well. Many years ago in the "good old '70's") , I had a cop stop me and my girl friend for a half an hour because I had long hair, big wheels on my Malibu and was drinking a soda which he thought "looked like beer". It was total harassment and very vexing.
However, the point of the thread is to give a little balance to the slew of cop bashing threads with the idea that there are also very good cops doing brave work under dangerous conditions. I'm not giving the bad cops ANY slack, just acknowledging and encouraging the good ones.
I'm sorry to hear about what happened with you and your daughter and you Mom. That totally sucks and I can see where you would be pissed off about that incident! I surely hope you have some good cops to balance out the bad!"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
brianlux wrote:Loulou wrote:I'm not sure how they are over in other countries but my beef lies with the ones here who really abuse their power instead of helping people. I agree, there are some fantastic police, some true heroes its just some very arrogant and ignorant ones that ruin their reputation.
Not long back, one stopped my mothers car because her automatic headlights had not come on yet. In all fairness, dusk had only just started and it wasn't dark yet but fair enough he did it for safety reasons. Now he knew that my mothers model of car did put its lights on automatically and when she went to tell him that, he dismissed her saying "yes, yes, yes, I know that!". Very rudely.
Then he insisted on checking her car out and by this time, my little girl had had a big day. She starts crying and throwing a bit of a tanty and he comes over and shines his freaking torch straight into her face. Understandably, my little one gets even more upset so my Mum says "I don't mean to be rude but if I haven't done anything wrong can I please go because my little granddaughter is really upset" to which he says " I can keep you here all night if I have to" and starts to check all of her wheels???
He kept us there for about 20 minutes in total which was ridiculous. I understand him stopping us but why the attitude?
I understand where your coming from, Loulou. I've had my my bad run in's as well. Many years ago in the "good old '70's") , I had a cop stop me and my girl friend for a half an hour because I had long hair, big wheels on my Malibu and was drinking a soda which he thought "looked like beer". It was total harassment and very vexing.
However, the point of the thread is to give a little balance to the slew of cop bashing threads with the idea that there are also very good cops doing brave work under dangerous conditions. I'm not giving the bad cops ANY slack, just acknowledging and encouraging the good ones.
I'm sorry to hear about what happened with you and your daughter and you Mom. That totally sucks and I can see where you would be pissed off about that incident! I surely hope you have some good cops to balance out the bad!“ "Thank you Palestrina. It’s a wonderful evening, it’s great to be here and I wanna dedicate you a super sexy song." " (last words of Mark Sandman of Morphine)
Adelaide 1998
Adelaide 2003
Adelaide 2006 night 1
Adelaide 2006 night 2
Adelaide 2009
Melbourne 2009
Christchurch NZ 2009
Eddie Vedder, Adelaide 2011
PJ20 USA 2011 night 1
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Adelaide BIG DAY OUT 20140 -
you cant live with out them thats for sure even if SOME of the abuse there trust0
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I've worked with many of them (and the fine folks in our correctional industry) and when they feel like you are part of the club, they tell you things they wouldn't mention to others. Those confessions have been disturbing and I am more and more convinced the only difference between most of them and the guys in jail is which side of the bars they happen to be standing.0
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Snakeduck wrote:I've worked with many of them (and the fine folks in our correctional industry) and when they feel like you are part of the club, they tell you things they wouldn't mention to others. Those confessions have been disturbing and I am more and more convinced the only difference between most of them and the guys in jail is which side of the bars they happen to be standing.
This is true Snakeduck and I totally get that there are plenty of cases to substantiate what you're saying but the point of this thread is to give some perspective to the numerous recent threads that keep focusing only on bad cops as if to imply that none are good. I said, "Cops: they're not all bad" and I stand behind that. For example, a cop who was a member of my extended family was killed in the line of duty. This incident made national headlines. I never met the man but several people close to me who knew him intimately and describe him in terms that strongly illustrate that he was a good, fine, caring, loving family man who died violently in the line of duty.
This doesn't change the fact that some are rotten to the core and there's no reason to defend that type, but what I'm trying to point out here is simply this- they are not all bad and, in fact, many are good men and women doing good work as police officers."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
You're right, they're not all bad....but there sure is a culture in police forces where they seem to think they are above the law.
This is really an eye opener.
"THE Rialto study began in February 2012 and will run until this July. The results from the first 12 months are striking. Even with only half of the 54 uniformed patrol officers wearing cameras at any given time, the department over all had an 88 percent decline in the number of complaints filed against officers, compared with the 12 months before the study, to 3 from 24."
"Rialto’s police officers also used force nearly 60 percent less often — in 25 instances, compared with 61. When force was used, it was twice as likely to have been applied by the officers who weren’t wearing cameras during that shift, the study found. And, lest skeptics think that the officers with cameras are selective about which encounters they record, Mr. Farrar noted that those officers who apply force while wearing a camera have always captured the incident on video."
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Very true... I've met some very friendly ones...
Met some arrogant ones...
And then there are cops abusing their power... corruption...
Detectives with informants are just kind of, well, creepy... to me, anyway.0 -
As much as I've mostly been around the arrogant, power-trip cops, I must say that the last time I got pulled over for speeding, I was within my village boundaries and coming home from work on a Friday night at 11pm. It was the first time I've ever been let go for speeding, ever, without getting a ticket. (I've had my share) Finally, there is a cop out there that can be nice.0
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So, where I live/work in West Hollywood, there are a number of homeless people with various degrees of mental illness. One fellow used to repeatedly hang out in the alley behind our building - screaming, exposing himself, and then some.
He showed up this morning after an absence of several months. On his back, pleasuring himself (and yelling). I called the sheriffs because much as I feel for this guy, it's a business here.
So two sheriffs show up, we talk, they get their batons in hand and approach him - but with...hmmm...I guess "gentleness" would be the appropriate word.
They ask him if he's OK, does he want some cold water? Dude says no, cops give him a thumbs up, he grabs his blanket, walks away. No more screaming, no more exposed dick.
All's OK.
These guys fucking rock.0 -
hedonist wrote:So, where I live/work in West Hollywood, there are a number of homeless people with various degrees of mental illness. One fellow used to repeatedly hang out in the alley behind our building - screaming, exposing himself, and then some.
He showed up this morning after an absence of several months. On his back, pleasuring himself (and yelling). I called the sheriffs because much as I feel for this guy, it's a business here.
So two sheriffs show up, we talk, they get their batons in hand and approach him - but with...hmmm...I guess "gentleness" would be the appropriate word.
They ask him if he's OK, does he want some cold water? Dude says no, cops give him a thumbs up, he grabs his blanket, walks away. No more screaming, no more exposed dick.
All's OK.
These guys fucking rock.
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In all fairness, I think most men are aware of the never touch another man while he is naked or masturbating unwritten law.
That is a crazy story though. Makes the "Florida" thread look tame. :PPick up my debut novel here on amazon: Jonny Bails Floatin (in paperback) (also available on Kindle for $2.99)0 -
JonnyPistachio wrote::shock:
In all fairness, I think most men are aware of the never touch another man while he is naked or masturbating unwritten law.
That is a crazy story though. Makes the "Florida" thread look tame. :P
I have to give them kudos. Not sure I could be so cool when "faced" with such activity.
We could definitely rival Florida - not sure if that's good or bad though0 -
hedonist wrote:JonnyPistachio wrote::shock:
In all fairness, I think most men are aware of the never touch another man while he is naked or masturbating unwritten law.
That is a crazy story though. Makes the "Florida" thread look tame. :P
I have to give them kudos. Not sure I could be so cool when "faced" with such activity.
We could definitely rival Florida - not sure if that's good or bad thoughcrazy. I guess they cant just let him finish. :wtf: Although, he'd be even easier to subdue at that point.
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