New 10C ticket policy

I know I keep ranting about this but as someone who was 26 for 26 before the lottos started and 1 for 9 afterwards, I can attest better than most:


1.) Dirty "trick" was nothing more than putting the exact https URL for tickets into your browser instead of clicking on the tickets icon in the good section. That's not dirty or secret, that's internet 101.

For example if the shows were listed Boston, Hartford, NYC the URLs and hovering over the Boston link gave you:

http://pearljam.com/goods/product_info. ... ts_id=1797

the links would be:

https://pearljam.com/goods/product_info ... ts_id=1797
https://pearljam.com/goods/product_info ... ts_id=1798
https://pearljam.com/goods/product_info ... ts_id=1799

Everyone got it now? I just went all Snowden on this place.

2.) Yes, the same number of tickets are going to be sold. BUT, all the people that were turned off by the F5 issues are now going to be back in the competition, so the number of people competing for each pair of 10c tickets will increase. The club has chosen to mitigate this using the priority system, but as previous posters if you don't get your #1 choice in the North East, odds are you are SOL for 10c tickets. It's fair, absolutely, but it's a fundamental change in the concert experience for the community that has built up around the old way. Gone are the days of spending a week or shows sitting around your concert-friends and reveling in the marvel that is Pearl Jam live so you cannot expect every fan to be happy about it.

Indifference wrote:

What happens when tour annouced and you know you aren't going to get all the NE shows but put in for say 7-8 shows given the lottery approach- credit card hold for the 8 shows? What happens if you don't have that much of a limit - just thinking out loud......

If you don't have enough of a limit to purchase tickets to 7-8 shows, then you shouldn't be trying. What if you happened to win all of them?

RE4790 wrote:

know1 wrote:

Indifference wrote:

What happens when tour annouced and you know you aren't going to get all the NE shows but put in for say 7-8 shows given the lottery approach- credit card hold for the 8 shows? What happens if you don't have that much of a limit - just thinking out loud......

If you don't have enough of a limit to purchase tickets to 7-8 shows, then you shouldn't be trying. What if you happened to win all of them?

I think the point was that the lotto's priority system encourages this because you don't know which you will win.

Maybe, but it's a valid question. If you really don't want all 7-8 shows, then what would you do if you won them (even if you had enough of a limit)? You can't really sell them unless you travel to pick them up in person.

Mcam55 wrote:

mattcoz wrote:

Mcam55 wrote:

If they announce an east coast tour, say Boston NYC Philly Hartford...its going to be tough to even get 1 pair of 10club seats. If your 1st choice is Boston and you dont get selected...theres no chance your 2nd,3rd,4th choice are going to get selected because all the tickets are going to go to the people who selected those other shows #1.

Why does everyone think this is how it works? It makes no sense.

Because thats how it is, its clearly spelled out in the ticket section. Your right it makes no sense.
They should get rid of the prioritizing the shows.

they need to rethink this for sure,depence,how big is the tour, how many shows per city and etc.
ofcourse the reason is just one they did it..not the same people score more than one show
they know they will sell out the fan club tix..they just want different fans to score them at every show

Personally, I have a little more faith in the 10c. I highly doubt they will announce 10-20 shows and have you pick your priority and do them all together. It just wouldn't work and the selection process would be daunting. Especially if you have so many people gunning for one/two shows.

I think they could possibly package shows. For example if there are two shows in Boston (for conversation purposes) you would select which night is your priority over the other. Or maybe like a set of 3-4 shows, but not all shows together and you pick the priority.

But more likely they will do each show separately (where you can enter for every show) and will most likely put a limit. Say if you win 2 lotteries then your done and either your further entries are out or they don't allow you to enter the later ones. I personally think it will be something like this. If you remember they put restrictions on the Cali shows in '09 or was it '10, where you could only get one night or something.

Mcam55 wrote:

I hope thats the case, I know the days of going 5 for 5 for a tour are over but as someone said "lose once you lose all" method would be rough. Individual lotteries with a cap or prioritizing if there are multiple shows in a city makes sense.

thats why they need to rethink this,depence the city,depence how many multiple shows at one city,how big is the tour.. etc!!from the other hand..all shows will sell out the fan club tix,all tic will go to members..
so good luck to all!!gonna be tough!!

"Lose once, lose all" makes a lot of sense to me in terms of what reality will unfold (not in what is smart).

This is especially true in the Northeast.

Think about it. 10C has a limited number of club tickets. In large PJ-friendly markets (NYC, Boston, Philly, DC), there will be a lot of demand. A lot of folks will make their home market their 1st choice. There's a big possibility that there will be more "1st Choice" requests than tickets. Which means every ticket will go to a "1st Choice" person. If you lose NYC, you can bet the Philly and Boston gigs will be sucked up by "1st Choice" people for those respective shows. So yah, you lose.

Let's say your 2nd choice didn't sell out to 1st choicers. You still have a very large portion gone to the first choicers, so all of the overflow from the big shows are fighting over a few scraps for the other ones.

I foresee very few lottery wins for shows other than "1st Choice".

And I just want to say that this system is scalper heaven. How much work does a scalper have to do? Pay a $20 club fee and click a button or two on a web page. If they lose, they're out $20 on PJ... if they win, pick up their fan club tickets and sell them to all the poor suckers who lost the lottery!

dimitrispearljam wrote:

no..its not scalpers heaven..just a pair will not make any difference to them...

OK, I admit "scalper heaven" was a bit of an overstatement.

But you can't deny it made the process easier for someone scalping (whether a scalper is a "professional" who does it as a business or a one-off chump who decides to throw his hat in then changed his mind).

Before, you had to invest time and frustration into getting tickets... that scared off most "casual" fans and made profit margin lower for the "business" types.

Now, just click a button. For "casual" fans, it's like "couldn't be easier! Why not give it a go!". For business types, the disincentive is gone, too. Casual fans are more likely to change their minds and just not show up... but they could also see the opportunity for a quick buck and head down to the venue anyway.

So yah, "scalper heaven" was overkill... but it does make it a little easier for the layperson to do it if they want.

And yah... I'm a bit whiny b/c the pool of candidates has swollen with people that otherwise wouldn't be competition for the tickets... so there's that.

CranMalReign wrote:

Ooo! Maybe, like "Digital" or "Analog", you get to pick how you want your ticketing experience to go...

When you sign up, you decide whether you're "F5" or "Lotto". They split available 10C tix up... the "F5" crowd can take their chances with the server crashes and general crush, and the "Lotto" crowd can leisurely click their button and sip mojitos!

haha..love the way you put it!!

CranMalReign wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

no..its not scalpers heaven..just a pair will not make any difference to them...

OK, I admit "scalper heaven" was a bit of an overstatement.

But you can't deny it made the process easier for someone scalping (whether a scalper is a "professional" who does it as a business or a one-off chump who decides to throw his hat in then changed his mind).

Before, you had to invest time and frustration into getting tickets... that scared off most "casual" fans and made profit margin lower for the "business" types.

Now, just click a button. For "casual" fans, it's like "couldn't be easier! Why not give it a go!". For business types, the disincentive is gone, too. Casual fans are more likely to change their minds and just not show up... but they could also see the opportunity for a quick buck and head down to the venue anyway.

So yah, "scalper heaven" was overkill... but it does make it a little easier for the layperson to do it if they want.

And yah... I'm a bit whiny b/c the pool of candidates has swollen with people that otherwise wouldn't be competition for the tickets... so there's that.

seems and sound easier..but its not for scalpers..
before if u was a scalper,u knew how to cheat the system and while true fans f5ing,u was already with a pair in your card
even as a scalper now u have the same chances ..and arent alot.
before,with servers,with multiple,pc and windows ,better internet than regular fans,,was piece of cake for pro scalpers cheat the system and score to ALL the shows of tour...
now u cant do shit..
10c nailed..