I'm looking for ten million Americans

aerial
aerial Posts: 2,319
edited June 2013 in A Moving Train
Dear Patriot,

I'm looking for ten million Americans to stand with me and sue the federal government and TAKE BACK our rights.

Can I count on your help?

Without it, I truly fear where our fragile Republic could be headed . . .

Recent news reports revealed that Barack Obama's NSA is looking through billions of our emails and phone records every day.

So yesterday morning, in an interview on Fox News, I announced I would be asking Internet providers and phone companies to join me in a class-action lawsuit to STOP this madness.

But my friend, today I'm counting on your support, as well.

As you'll see, I've made up a Joining Statement for you to join my class-action lawsuit, and I'm counting on you to sign it IMMEDIATELY.

You see, I believe this is an absolutely critical and defining moment . . .

My hope is, it will be remembered for decades as the moment the American people stood up to their government and demanded our liberties be respected.

But I fear, without your help, it could be the moment the American people quietly shrank from a fight and gave their last bit of approval over for government-run lives.

I know there are those who argue Americans must give up every last one of their liberties to win our country's ongoing fight against terrorism.

"Trust us," they say.

I also know their promises of safety can be tantalizing.

But today we know President Obama's IRS routinely targeted his political opponents and grassroots conservatives.

The Justice Department targeted reporters and their families for wiretapping and harassment for daring to criticize the administration.

We see the Obama administration covering up Benghazi then tapping Susan Rice -- who helped mislead the American people in the wake of that outrage -- for a promotion.

"Trust us" is out the window.

And even if our rulers were angels -- and you and I had nothing to fear from an overbearing and intrusive government -- it doesn't even work.

One of my colleagues, defending this massive program, stated the recent Boston bombing proved why we need programs like this.

Actually, it proves quite the opposite.

Instead of acting on real intelligence warnings from at least one other nation about the dangers the Tsarnaev's posed, they were too busy secretly sifting through the phone and email records of hundreds of millions of Americans.

Instead of unreasonably targeting every American into a target for spying, they should be focusing on only the truly dangerous.

What's truly dangerous is if you and I allow this to go on.

How long until these spying capabilities suffer some "mission creep" and they start using the GPS feature in your phone to track whether or not you go to gun shows?

What if you go to the "wrong" church? Or read emails from or attend the rallies of the "wrong" candidate.

What if you go to McDonalds a little "too much?"
Rand Paul


How long until Big Brother tries to "fix" you?
http://www.randpacusa.com/nsa_lawsuit_signupPAC.aspx?pid=th03

I am not sure if I trust joining anything on the internet.
Just wondering what others think about a class action law suit....
“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    "Recent news reports revealed that Barack Obama's NSA is looking through billions of our emails and phone records every day."

    Reminds me of my last signature:

    "A leap of faith
    Or a jump of stupid
    Either way
    Don't know what I'm doing
    If you follow me around
    With your tape recorder
    I'm sure you'll got
    A load of footsteps."
    -Paul Westerberg.

    Seriously, unless you're doing something very wrong or very illegal, you're spending too much time worrying and/or in fear. Relax!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    Honestly, much like the drone filibuster, I think this is littlemore than Rand trying to capitalize on an issue. I believe very little of what he says. But that's just my opinion.

    I did find this interesting:

    "Paid for by RAND PAC. Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee."

    How is an email from Rand Paul not authorized by Rand Paul?
    ___________________________________________

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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,295
    Just make a donation to the ACLU. They are already on it.
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    Jason P wrote:
    Just make a donation to the ACLU. They are already on it.

    Probably a much better play for anyone who is legitimately concerned.
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    JimmyV wrote:
    Honestly, much like the drone filibuster, I think this is littlemore than Rand trying to capitalize on an issue. I believe very little of what he says. But that's just my opinion.

    I did find this interesting:

    "Paid for by RAND PAC. Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee."

    How is an email from Rand Paul not authorized by Rand Paul?
    where was rand 12 years ago???


    :corn:


    this is just the first dogwhistle to get the tea party all fired up again.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    i'm looking for 10 million americans....






















    to stop listening to alex jones and rush limbaugh and glen beck....
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    JimmyV wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    Just make a donation to the ACLU. They are already on it.

    Probably a much better play for anyone who is legitimately concerned.

    Thanks
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    i'm looking for 10 million americans....






















    to stop listening to alex jones and rush limbaugh and glen beck....

    I may not always agree with everyone here but I DO RESPECT everyone's opinions (well, not dorks) and I do value all advise.....the condescending remarks show a lack of maturity ....just my opinion though :x
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • BinFrog
    BinFrog MA Posts: 7,314
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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    wait till fall tour tix announced..will be 700-800 members online that day!!
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    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    wait till fall tour tix announced..will be 700-800 members online that day!!

    :lol:
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    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    aerial wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    i'm looking for 10 million americans....






















    to stop listening to alex jones and rush limbaugh and glen beck....

    I may not always agree with everyone here but I DO RESPECT everyone's opinions (well, not dorks) and I do value all advise.....the condescending remarks show a lack of maturity ....just my opinion though :x
    it is not condescending. it is calling out faux outrage when the same things were going on when republicans were in power. good for the goose, but not for the gander, eh?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • BinFrog
    BinFrog MA Posts: 7,314
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    it is not condescending. it is calling out faux outrage when the same things were going on when republicans were in power. good for the goose, but not for the gander, eh?


    Stop....you're talking too sensibly.
    Bright eyed kid: "Wow Typo Man, you're the best!"
    Typo Man: "Thanks kidz, but remembir, stay in skool!"
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    it is not condescending. it is calling out faux outrage when the same things were going on when republicans were in power. good for the goose, but not for the gander, eh?

    exhibit a - sean hannity http://youtu.be/t27ie4qFlXM
  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    they didn't look through our e-mails. Verizon did not supply content, just the to and from and time and duration. grrrr.. the media tries so hard to scare you and fool you yet you are scared of the government

    be much more afraid of Fox News and its millions of people that believe what they are selling and what they are selling is deceipt and very dangerous
  • elvistheking44
    elvistheking44 Posts: 4,540
    Abuskedti wrote:
    they didn't look through our e-mails. Verizon did not supply content, just the to and from and time and duration. grrrr.. the media tries so hard to scare you and fool you yet you are scared of the government

    be much more afraid of Fox News and its millions of people that believe what they are selling and what they are selling is deceipt and very dangerous

    AMT is no place for you and your facts, please move along so the paranoid masses here can continue to live in the pretend "spy" movie they believe is our country.....
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,409
    aerial wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    i'm looking for 10 million americans....






















    to stop listening to alex jones and rush limbaugh and glen beck....

    I may not always agree with everyone here but I DO RESPECT everyone's opinions (well, not dorks) and I do value all advise.....the condescending remarks show a lack of maturity ....just my opinion though :x

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  • mikepegg44
    mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    ofthegirl99 wrote:
    Abuskedti wrote:
    they didn't look through our e-mails. Verizon did not supply content, just the to and from and time and duration. grrrr.. the media tries so hard to scare you and fool you yet you are scared of the government

    be much more afraid of Fox News and its millions of people that believe what they are selling and what they are selling is deceipt and very dangerous

    AMT is no place for you and your facts, please move along so the paranoid masses here can continue to live in the pretend "spy" movie they believe is our country.....


    tell me honestly, what about what the gov't has done and said in the past has led you to the point where you believe what they tell you now without what appears to be the slightest inkling of doubt?

    I doubt that this was done with nefarious intentions, doesn't mean I think it should be done. Dragnet surveillance is not a good road to go down. We will find out when the ACLU gets this to the supreme court how this will shake out...I am sure they will side with more erosion of the 4th and 5th amendments, it has been happening slowly for decades, no reason to stop it now...
    that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
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  • Guitar92player
    Guitar92player Posts: 664
    I think Rand Paul is annoying and politicizes everything.

    He is trying to bring Obama down on something that was not just him involved. It was a combination of two administrations and even Congress.

    I'm not defending Obama because he is a lying asshole on this issue, but Republicans are using this NSA thing to their advantage when it is the whole government involved.


    I kind of love this issue came out because we are seeing some Republicans and Democrats who support it and we are seeing a good number opposing it as well. Its not a clear cut division issue like usual. I heard one-third democrats are opposing it, which is different. Usually most support and back up Obama. To me we are seeing some true views coming out.
    ~Carter~

    You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
    or you can come to terms and realize
    you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
    makes much more sense to live in the present tense     - Present Tense
  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    ofthegirl99 wrote:
    Abuskedti wrote:
    they didn't look through our e-mails. Verizon did not supply content, just the to and from and time and duration. grrrr.. the media tries so hard to scare you and fool you yet you are scared of the government

    be much more afraid of Fox News and its millions of people that believe what they are selling and what they are selling is deceipt and very dangerous

    AMT is no place for you and your facts, please move along so the paranoid masses here can continue to live in the pretend "spy" movie they believe is our country.....


    tell me honestly, what about what the gov't has done and said in the past has led you to the point where you believe what they tell you now without what appears to be the slightest inkling of doubt?

    I doubt that this was done with nefarious intentions, doesn't mean I think it should be done. Dragnet surveillance is not a good road to go down. We will find out when the ACLU gets this to the supreme court how this will shake out...I am sure they will side with more erosion of the 4th and 5th amendments, it has been happening slowly for decades, no reason to stop it now...

    I don't know what you are referring to that I should or should not believe... I don't see a problem at all with their reviewing verizon records to see who is talking to who when. surely they are investigating many threats and leads and this information may help them make a connection. I think it a very serious problem to stir the nation is to a panic suggesting they are listening in on our conversations. Verizon did not give the content of any of those communications in the subpoena being spoken about now. I see absolutely no problem at all. in every court case including millions of divorces etc, they subpoena phone bills to prove adultry or some other thing.... how is it such a crime when the FBI does it to defend the nation from those that would do it harm.. just because it is on a larger scale? the job they do is on a larger scale.
    No I don't agree with or believe all that they tell me.... that is supposed to be handled by voting, but voting has been destroyed by all the misinformation fabricated by the media.. noone is informed, becasue we accept dishonest biased reporting.

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