MLB 2025 Season

Shit is about to hit the fan.

Baseball could be a much much different situation whenever this goes down. The union is going to go batshit and you would have to imagine it impacts the relationship with the union and owners/baseball

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Last-12-Exit wrote:

How can MLB suspend players without a positive drug test? I know Braun failed one. But did the others? If not, its basically his word against theirs.
Guilt by association?

Pretty much. I do think there may be a clause in the drug testing agreement that covers situations like this, but Bosch's word is going to have to be backed up somehow, especially since it seems like MLB sued him to get him to talk.

This is going to get very ugly

They must have found a ton of paperwork that outlines the scripts and cycles. Pete Rose still banned

Last-12-Exit wrote:

I have no doubt they used PED's. Its just seems like they are going to have to have more than paper trails to suspend these guys for 50-100 games.

I agree. I don't think the suspensions hold up in court on just this guys word and some paper he claimed to scribble on.

I don't think the players care about getting caught anymore... Just chasing massive dollars is all that matters. Braun, A-Rod, Cabrera all have a bunch of giant homes and probably laugh at this point. So many guys have gotten caught so no one feels like an outcast.

It's the fans, either accept the reality or take your dollars elsewhere. This whole witch hunt aspect is old. They are all repeat offenders... Clearly don't give a shit.

CROJAM95 wrote:

I don't think the players care about getting caught anymore... Just chasing massive dollars is all that matters. Braun, A-Rod, Cabrera all have a bunch of giant homes and probably laugh at this point. So many guys have gotten caught so no one feels like an outcast.

It's the fans, either accept the reality or take your dollars elsewhere. This whole witch hunt aspect is old. They are all repeat offenders... Clearly don't give a shit.

Sadly they don't, a lot of the guys getting caught are from other countries that are quite poor, so making a lot of money, no matter what the cost is all they care about, cause the insane amount of money they make in the states goes insanely farther (generations) back in their homeland. It's a really sad and f'd up system. Will never happen but I'd love to see the top pay go down to about $5 mil a year. I'm guilty of it for watching and going to the games (although I don't go to near as many as I used to).

Last-12-Exit wrote:

pureoc wrote:

CROJAM95 wrote:

I don't think the players care about getting caught anymore... Just chasing massive dollars is all that matters. Braun, A-Rod, Cabrera all have a bunch of giant homes and probably laugh at this point. So many guys have gotten caught so no one feels like an outcast.

It's the fans, either accept the reality or take your dollars elsewhere. This whole witch hunt aspect is old. They are all repeat offenders... Clearly don't give a shit.

Sadly they don't, a lot of the guys getting caught are from other countries that are quite poor, so making a lot of money, no matter what the cost is all they care about, cause the insane amount of money they make in the states goes insanely farther (generations) back in their homeland. It's a really sad and f'd up system. Will never happen but I'd love to see the top pay go down to about $5 mil a year. I'm guilty of it for watching and going to the games (although I don't go to near as many as I used to).

Would you like it if your boss said that you were grossly over paid so hes cutting your pay and the most you could make is $12.00/hour?

I know you weren't serious but every player is worth what an insanely rich person is willing to pay him. I really think contracts will have a void clause for players that are popped. Maybe even a pay back bonus clause if they are caught.

Again, I'm as guilty as anyone for them making what they make, but every player is worth what they get? I have to disagree. In how many other professions can you make millions when you come through less than 30% of the time, as most players have batting averages under .300?

Last-12-Exit wrote:

pureoc wrote:

Again, I'm as guilty as anyone for them making what they make, but every player is worth what they get? I have to disagree. In how many other professions can you make millions when you come through less than 30% of the time, as most players have batting averages under .300?

Lol. If a guy is willing to pay someone millions then yes, that's his worth to that owner. Arod was worth 10yrs at $275 million to the Yankees. Was it a bad investment, probably so. And coming through around 30% of the time is pretty good in baseball. Bad for a sniper.

Not probably so; incredibly a bad investment. At the time, they were paying for a player who excelled in the regular season but couldn't do shit in the playoffs.

Newch91 wrote:

Last-12-Exit wrote:

pureoc wrote:

Again, I'm as guilty as anyone for them making what they make, but every player is worth what they get? I have to disagree. In how many other professions can you make millions when you come through less than 30% of the time, as most players have batting averages under .300?

Lol. If a guy is willing to pay someone millions then yes, that's his worth to that owner. Arod was worth 10yrs at $275 million to the Yankees. Was it a bad investment, probably so. And coming through around 30% of the time is pretty good in baseball. Bad for a sniper.

Not probably so; incredibly a bad investment. At the time, they were paying for a player who excelled in the regular season but couldn't do shit in the playoffs.

No, at the time they were paying on of the best players to ever play the game with little injury history who was on an insane pace to shatter the home run record and do it clean and in pinstripes bringing the home run record back to the Bronx. They were obviously going off terrible information. The money they would have made off a clean arod breaking the record would have been astronomical. I'm I'm no way saying it was a good contract at the time, but what they paid for and what they got are two very different things.

I don't know if it's my age, 42, but it seems as if professional sports are pushing people away from caring about them.