Is America Really 'The Land of The Free'?

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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,599
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Interesting article. Stalin would be proud of you, Jimmy V.

    :lol:
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Interesting article. Stalin would be proud of you, Jimmy V. By the way, I've criticized Australians on this board more than I've ever criticized Americans - my criticisms in the direction of America are mostly confined to the U.S government; so does that make me 'prejudiced' towards Australians too? Also, I've criticized the Israeli government, the Chinese government, and the British government, on countless occasions, so does that also make me prejudiced towards Israeli's, Chinese, and British?

    Byrnzie attacks every country but Canada. We rock.

    Oh Canada...

    Can-a-da Can-a-da

    :lol:
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,599
    Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Interesting article. Stalin would be proud of you, Jimmy V. By the way, I've criticized Australians on this board more than I've ever criticized Americans - my criticisms in the direction of America are mostly confined to the U.S government; so does that make me 'prejudiced' towards Australians too? Also, I've criticized the Israeli government, the Chinese government, and the British government, on countless occasions, so does that also make me prejudiced towards Israeli's, Chinese, and British?

    Byrnzie attacks every country but Canada. We rock.

    Oh Canada...

    Can-a-da Can-a-da

    :lol:

    I think of all the national anthems I've heard, Canada's is high on the list for most beautiful.
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    JimmyV wrote:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Interesting article. Stalin would be proud of you, Jimmy V. By the way, I've criticized Australians on this board more than I've ever criticized Americans - my criticisms in the direction of America are mostly confined to the U.S government; so does that make me 'prejudiced' towards Australians too? Also, I've criticized the Israeli government, the Chinese government, and the British government, on countless occasions, so does that also make me prejudiced towards Israeli's, Chinese, and British?

    Byrnzie attacks every country but Canada. We rock.

    Oh Canada...

    Can-a-da Can-a-da

    :lol:

    I think of all the national anthems I've heard, Canada's is high on the list for most beautiful.

    A nice thing to say. Trust me when I say I was kidding around with my post: truth be known... I am happy with Canada- but am not what most would consider a patriot.

    Although we would need a control-alt-delete to make it happen... if borders and religion disappeared... the world would be a nicer place. Of course, if we ever did localize into a subsistence based societies... eventually aggressive leaders of some groups would venture outwards and into someone else's locale to satisfy their cravings for 'more' (whatever 'more' might be). The cycle would start all over- it's human nature.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • blueandwhite
    blueandwhite Posts: 662
    Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Interesting article. Stalin would be proud of you, Jimmy V. By the way, I've criticized Australians on this board more than I've ever criticized Americans - my criticisms in the direction of America are mostly confined to the U.S government; so does that make me 'prejudiced' towards Australians too? Also, I've criticized the Israeli government, the Chinese government, and the British government, on countless occasions, so does that also make me prejudiced towards Israeli's, Chinese, and British?

    Byrnzie attacks every country but Canada. We rock.

    Oh Canada...

    Can-a-da Can-a-da

    :lol:

    If only it were true. Our record with our First Nations is pretty deplorable. Recent changes to the Navigable Water Protection Act would also suggest that Canada is no saint when it comes to the environment. On the whole, Canada's a pretty nice place but we're hardly perfect.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,599
    Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:
    Although we would need a control-alt-delete to make it happen... if borders and religion disappeared... the world would be a nicer place. Of course, if we ever did localize into a subsistence based societies... eventually aggressive leaders of some groups would venture outwards and into someone else's locale to satisfy their cravings for 'more' (whatever 'more' might be). The cycle would start all over- it's human nature.

    Agreed. I always joke that the only thing that can bring the world together is space aliens invading. An external threat to prove once and for all how ridiculous some of the divisions we cling to are.
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  • BinauralJam
    BinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    both of them??

    this is what i've been told. :evil:
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    BinauralJam wrote:
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    both of them??

    this is what i've been told. :evil:

    wow.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,599
    BinauralJam wrote:
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    both of them??

    this is what i've been told. :evil:

    Still holding out hope that the bans will not be permanent. I guess we'll see.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,599
    blueandwhite wrote:
    On the whole, Canada's a pretty nice place but we're hardly perfect.

    I think just about every country has its pluses and minuses...or at least many do. Being pretty nice on the whole, which I agree Canada is, ain't that bad.
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  • rollings
    rollings unknown Posts: 7,127
    JimmyV wrote:
    BinauralJam wrote:
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    both of them??

    this is what i've been told. :evil:

    Still holding out hope that the bans will not be permanent. I guess we'll see.

    they shouldn't be.

    that's ridiculous :thumbdown:
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    one of the two is back using another account

    anyone here concerned about the billion dollars the us gov't is spending on facial recognition software and database? ... it's not even just the face - the software can identify you from side profiles and what not as well ...
  • riotgrl
    riotgrl LOUISVILLE Posts: 1,895
    polaris_x wrote:
    one of the two is back using another account

    anyone here concerned about the billion dollars the us gov't is spending on facial recognition software and database? ... it's not even just the face - the software can identify you from side profiles and what not as well ...


    Is this what you're talking about? http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/05/28/facial-recognition-software-is-coming-to-google-glass/

    I continue to find it frightening that we bicker and argue about things like guns when there are real threats to our freedom that many will ignore because it 'protects our safety'. The uses for these types of technologies by both the government and corporations scares the shit out of me!

    Hopefully, our dear friend will have her ban lifted and soon!
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

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  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    polaris_x wrote:
    one of the two is back using another account

    yeah, noticed that. :nono:
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    riotgrl wrote:
    Hopefully, our dear friend will have her ban lifted and soon!

    Who?
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    riotgrl wrote:
    Is this what you're talking about? http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/05/28/facial-recognition-software-is-coming-to-google-glass/

    I continue to find it frightening that we bicker and argue about things like guns when there are real threats to our freedom that many will ignore because it 'protects our safety'. The uses for these types of technologies by both the government and corporations scares the shit out of me!

    Hopefully, our dear friend will have her ban lifted and soon!

    actually no ...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4diPjRj1d3w
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    "Bullshit is the glue, that BINDS us as a nation. Where would we be without our safe, familiar, American bullshit? Land of the free, home of the brave, the American dream, all men are equal, justice is blind, the press is free, your vote counts, business is honest, the good guys win, the police are on your side, God is watching you, your standard of living will never decline… and everything is going to be just fine— The official national bullshit story. I call it the American okie doke. Every one, every one of those items is provably untrue at one level or another, but we believe them because they're pounded into our heads from the time we're children."

    ~ George Carlin's 'It's Bad For Ya' stand-up comedy act 2008.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    free press only exists for those who own the press.
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
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    lie beside me
    i just need to say
  • STAYSEA
    STAYSEA Posts: 3,814
    I do whatever I want. I live in America. If it's illegal, I don't talk about it.

    I'm not living in Saudi Arabia, Women can legally be stoned to death by family members for leaving the house with out a family male escort. :fp: :nono:

    (Where I live, I can HANG you for trying to steal my horse, w/o a trial, but I don't have a pony....
    Be like I'm like the DUDE.. and I abide.)
    "Like a Salmon... only to be eaten by a bear..." -not worth it-


    Freedom isn't Free...

    Trey Parker... Matt Stone NC-17... ;)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmoeZHnOJKA

    If, you can't laugh at this... and tolerate cuss words, I'm toast.



    I quote Mr. Parker... If you have offense. "They are puppets?"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmoeZHnOJKA



    Please watch it all and have a sense if humor before you judge. ;)
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Ouch!

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/ju ... ourt-order

    Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

    Exclusive: Top secret court order requiring Verizon to hand over all call data shows scale of domestic surveillance under Obama

    Glenn Greenwald
    The Guardian, Wednesday 5 June 2013


    The National Security Agency is currently collecting the telephone records of millions of US customers of Verizon, one of America's largest telecoms providers, under a top secret court order issued in April.

    The order, a copy of which has been obtained by the Guardian, requires Verizon on an "ongoing, daily basis" to give the NSA information on all telephone calls in its systems, both within the US and between the US and other countries.

    The document shows for the first time that under the Obama administration the communication records of millions of US citizens are being collected indiscriminately and in bulk – regardless of whether they are suspected of any wrongdoing.

    The secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (Fisa) granted the order to the FBI on April 25, giving the government unlimited authority to obtain the data for a specified three-month period ending on July 19...

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