Is America Really 'The Land of The Free'?

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  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    brianlux wrote:

    Hugh, either you and I have it figured out or we are a lot like our distinctive signatures. :lol:

    I have had more than my fair share buzzing around my head lately! :lol:
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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    as long as.....people's quest for power exist it'll be tough.

    being that is part of man's nature, there is no way it will ever happen.

    I agree ...
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    JimmyV wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:


    nahhh dude that's bullshit,they guy lives in another country and and constantly bangs the US,maybe it's time to call him on his loud mouth bullshit.

    Godfather.

    Gotta agree with the Godfather here. There are a few on this board who seem blind to the fact that a prejudicial hatred of Americans is no different than a prejudicial hatred of blacks or gays or women. That this kind of hatred is so widely accepted does not make it any less repulsive.

    show me ONE post, just ONE, that shows prejudicial hatred of the American public. You can't. Because what goes on here is simply discussing topics that involve American government or military or foreign policy. Which, is quite a lot. What goes on in the US affects more than just americans. by way of american foreign policy itself. so yeah, we're going to talk about it.

    show me "one post" where I used the word " prejudicial hatred " and as far as reading someones constant negative bable about America this and America that gets really old..the guy sounds like a broken record and is just shy of being a troll.

    Godfather.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    man....for so many of you who feel America is so bad you all sure seem to enjoy a lot of things about America.

    Godfather.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Godfather. wrote:
    as far as reading someones constant negative bable about America this and America that gets really old..the guy sounds like a broken record and is just shy of being a troll.

    Instead of carrying on like a two year old, if you have any issues with any of the criticisms made against U.S government policies, then let's hear them.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Godfather. wrote:
    man....for so many of you who feel America is so bad you all sure seem to enjoy a lot of things about America.

    Godfather.

    Please point me to any post or thread that claims 'America is so bad'. Thanks.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    and yet people will do anything to live in America......

    Illegal immigration to the United States is the act of foreign nationals entering the United States, without government permission and in violation of United States nationality law, or staying beyond the termination date of a visa, also in violation of the law.

    The illegal immigrant population of the United States in 2008 was estimated by the Center for Immigration Studies to be about 11 million people, down from 12.5 million people in 2007.[1] Other estimates range from 7 to 20 million.[2] According to a Pew Hispanic Center report, in 2005, 56% of illegal immigrants were from Mexico; 22% were from other Latin American countries, primarily from Central America;[3] 13% were from Asia; 6% were from Europe and Canada; and 3% were from Africa and the rest of the world.
    and what of today ? how many ??

    sooooo there must be something good about America and it's fredoms....right ?

    and Byrnzie (speaking of 2 year old's) good morning.

    Godfather.
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    Godfather. wrote:
    and yet people will do anything to live in America......

    Illegal immigration to the United States is the act of foreign nationals entering the United States, without government permission and in violation of United States nationality law, or staying beyond the termination date of a visa, also in violation of the law.

    The illegal immigrant population of the United States in 2008 was estimated by the Center for Immigration Studies to be about 11 million people, down from 12.5 million people in 2007.[1] Other estimates range from 7 to 20 million.[2] According to a Pew Hispanic Center report, in 2005, 56% of illegal immigrants were from Mexico; 22% were from other Latin American countries, primarily from Central America;[3] 13% were from Asia; 6% were from Europe and Canada; and 3% were from Africa and the rest of the world.
    and what of today ? how many ??

    sooooo there must be something good about America and it's fredoms....right ?

    and Byrnzie (speaking of 2 year old's) good morning.

    Godfather.
    you copy & paste a article & not show the link where you copied the information from or just made up your own facts? forgive me if I am wrong but I know your writing & that is not godfather writing. please always show your sources as it is common practice when writing & a must.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Godfather. wrote:
    and yet people will do anything to live in America......

    Illegal immigration to the United States is the act of foreign nationals entering the United States, without government permission and in violation of United States nationality law, or staying beyond the termination date of a visa, also in violation of the law.

    The illegal immigrant population of the United States in 2008 was estimated by the Center for Immigration Studies to be about 11 million people, down from 12.5 million people in 2007.[1] Other estimates range from 7 to 20 million.[2] According to a Pew Hispanic Center report, in 2005, 56% of illegal immigrants were from Mexico; 22% were from other Latin American countries, primarily from Central America;[3] 13% were from Asia; 6% were from Europe and Canada; and 3% were from Africa and the rest of the world.
    and what of today ? how many ??

    sooooo there must be something good about America and it's fredoms....right ?

    and Byrnzie (speaking of 2 year old's) good morning.

    Godfather.

    Yeah, it's really weird why people from poor countries want to live in rich countries. Europeans ask themselves the same question, what with Africans and people from the Middle East pouring in to Europe, and risking their lives to do so.
    The again, what does any of this have to do with U.S, or British, government policies - especially foreign policies? Answer: NOTHING.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Godfather. wrote:
    man....for so many of you who feel America is so bad you all sure seem to enjoy a lot of things about America.

    Godfather.


    some of my fave writers are american.. some of my fave musicians are american.. some of my fave people are american... but man your government sucks.. and while ordinarily a foreign govt wouldn't be of concern to me, the american govts reach is long and somewhat damaging... and therefore I will continuen to not see eye to eye with them and those who blindly support their actions and policy.. and that includes my own govt. .
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    but good question, godfather. you see we have food in the us. we have jobs here even if extremely difficult manual labor jobs, we have them. other reasons as well why folks come here, we aren't at a civil war. I love illegal immigrants & will help them if I have the opportunity to do so. people is who they are. people who deserve respect, humor, love & shelter & food. as decent human beings we must never turn our backs on another, illegal immigrant or not.
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    and yet people will do anything to live in America......

    Illegal immigration to the United States is the act of foreign nationals entering the United States, without government permission and in violation of United States nationality law, or staying beyond the termination date of a visa, also in violation of the law.

    The illegal immigrant population of the United States in 2008 was estimated by the Center for Immigration Studies to be about 11 million people, down from 12.5 million people in 2007.[1] Other estimates range from 7 to 20 million.[2] According to a Pew Hispanic Center report, in 2005, 56% of illegal immigrants were from Mexico; 22% were from other Latin American countries, primarily from Central America;[3] 13% were from Asia; 6% were from Europe and Canada; and 3% were from Africa and the rest of the world.
    and what of today ? how many ??

    sooooo there must be something good about America and it's fredoms....right ?

    and Byrnzie (speaking of 2 year old's) good morning.

    Godfather.

    Yeah, it's really weird why people from poor countries want to live in rich countries. Europeans ask themselves the same question, what with Africans and people from the Middle East pouring in to Europe, and risking their lives to do so.
    The again, what does any of this have to do with U.S, or British, government policies - especially foreign policies? Answer: NOTHING.


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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    JimmyV wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    JimmyV wrote:
    And which part did I misinterpret?

    the part where you take anything that can be mildly attributed as a criticism of americans and claim prejudice ... tell me ... are americans not nationalistic and proud people?

    You wrote:
    americans are as nationalistic as they come ... it's beaten into them ... even the liberals here have an aversion to hearing what is wrong with the country ... they can't separate their defensive nature from the objective criticisms ...

    That statement is dripping with prejudice. You lump all Americans in together, then lump all American liberals in together. There is no objective criticism there.

    Are some American nationalistic and proud? Sure. So say some Americans. Don't paint us all with one brush and then claim to not have a bias.

    let me reiterate ... it is dripping with prejudice because you choose to do so ... instead of actually addressing the point ... your reaction is simply to try and discount it because you don't like hearing it ...

    again - we offer generalizations for a purpose ... they need to have relevance and they need to be true ... and yet again - saying not all americans are this or that is an absurdity of a point to make ... it is OBVIOUS that not all americans or anything otherwise you'd be all clones ...

    feel free to ignore the criticisms - it's an easy way out ...
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Nobody have anything to say about the OP? Nobody concerned that the government maybe keeping a record of every single telephone conversation and e-mail you've ever made? Nobody concerned about the FBI seizing the phone records of the Associated Press?

    i tried to open the discussion about civil liberties and the boston explosion thread and all i got was i hated americans ... :lol::lol:
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    catefrances wrote:
    if not for the accident of birth... ;)8-)
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    you asked for it
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    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    chadwick wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    and yet people will do anything to live in America......

    Illegal immigration to the United States is the act of foreign nationals entering the United States, without government permission and in violation of United States nationality law, or staying beyond the termination date of a visa, also in violation of the law.

    The illegal immigrant population of the United States in 2008 was estimated by the Center for Immigration Studies to be about 11 million people, down from 12.5 million people in 2007.[1] Other estimates range from 7 to 20 million.[2] According to a Pew Hispanic Center report, in 2005, 56% of illegal immigrants were from Mexico; 22% were from other Latin American countries, primarily from Central America;[3] 13% were from Asia; 6% were from Europe and Canada; and 3% were from Africa and the rest of the world.
    and what of today ? how many ??

    sooooo there must be something good about America and it's fredoms....right ?

    and Byrnzie (speaking of 2 year old's) good morning.

    Godfather.
    you copy & paste a article & not show the link where you copied the information from or just made up your own facts? forgive me if I am wrong but I know your writing & that is not godfather writing. please always show your sources as it is common practice when writing & a must.


    wikipida.

    Godfather.
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    yes every single text, email & phone conversation has been & will be stored in giant warehouse servers or whatever the fuck they are. this been going on at least the last 10-15 years. where is my link to the site that says this? I don't have a link or a credible site but it is a fact. ask W.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    ask alex jones. many of your hero :lol:
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    Godfather. wrote:
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    JimmyV wrote:
    Gotta agree with the Godfather here. There are a few on this board who seem blind to the fact that a prejudicial hatred of Americans is no different than a prejudicial hatred of blacks or gays or women. That this kind of hatred is so widely accepted does not make it any less repulsive.

    show me ONE post, just ONE, that shows prejudicial hatred of the American public. You can't. Because what goes on here is simply discussing topics that involve American government or military or foreign policy. Which, is quite a lot. What goes on in the US affects more than just americans. by way of american foreign policy itself. so yeah, we're going to talk about it.

    show me "one post" where I used the word " prejudicial hatred " and as far as reading someones constant negative bable about America this and America that gets really old..the guy sounds like a broken record and is just shy of being a troll.

    Godfather.

    I was addressing Jimmy V, not you.
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    Godfather. wrote:
    and yet people will do anything to live in America......

    Illegal immigration to the United States is the act of foreign nationals entering the United States, without government permission and in violation of United States nationality law, or staying beyond the termination date of a visa, also in violation of the law.

    The illegal immigrant population of the United States in 2008 was estimated by the Center for Immigration Studies to be about 11 million people, down from 12.5 million people in 2007.[1] Other estimates range from 7 to 20 million.[2] According to a Pew Hispanic Center report, in 2005, 56% of illegal immigrants were from Mexico; 22% were from other Latin American countries, primarily from Central America;[3] 13% were from Asia; 6% were from Europe and Canada; and 3% were from Africa and the rest of the world.
    and what of today ? how many ??

    sooooo there must be something good about America and it's fredoms....right ?

    and Byrnzie (speaking of 2 year old's) good morning.

    Godfather.

    56% from Mexico. Have you seen what has been going on in that country? You wonder why they crawl through tunnels to escape for the chance at a better life?

    The subject of this thread doesn't appear to be one attacking the US... yet it seems as if the chest beaters are in full defence mode. Could someone point me to the post that has the patriots feeling as if their dignity has been attacked? I think I missed it.
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