How rusty will PJ be when they roll into wrigley?
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historically, PJ has needed a good week or two of shows to hit their stride. but of course, that's been a problem the last 6 years or so since their tours aren't longer than two weeks.
in the past, they've also publicly laughed off the notion of any serious pre-tour rehearsals. which is too bad, since like people have said, they've gotten progressively sloppier over the last few years.i'm more a fan of popular bands.. like the bee-gees, pearl jam0 -
Every band practices. It's just a matter of how much. And I can say with great confidence, more practice=better performancemcgruff10 wrote:how does anyone on this board know if pearl jam practices?0 -
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The band usually rehearses in the week or upcoming weeks of the show. It's like clock work.Pjdreamer0
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evenflow82 wrote:EchosNobodyHears wrote:Don't forget, PJ20 was the first 2 shows of 2011 and I thought they nailed it. I think after having warmed up in Ontario they'll be good to go.
They did NOT nail it on night one by a long shot. The first night was a disaster. They took the stage 45 mins late, stumbled through the set (Which had rarities, which was great and all, but please rehearse them), random guests which took away from songs more than they added, terrible weather, scrapped songs, a curfew they were a complete slave to and one three minute cover song for a second encore in front of 30,000 of their fans. That's far from "nailing" anything and closer to simply embarrassing.
It was fucking awesome actually. I enjoyed night 1 more than night 2 to be honest. Probably because I was up close night one and in the lawn night 2 but still. And even if there were some botches, it was a great show with a bunch of fun surprises. I was actually watching the bootleg DVD of it the other day. Great time. Far from "simply embarrassing."2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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I hope I didn't wake anyone up with my sudden burst of laughter when I saw this! Well played! I enjoyed that little '90's flashback of sitting there watching some Seinfeld.
Thanks!
And, back to the topic. I think I agree with everyone on here from maybe being a little "rusty" at the start of a tour, being better than most live bands playing at the top of their game, and loving the fact that they play such a vast amount of different songs while changing it up every night. I also agree with the previous post asking who on here really even knows if, when, or how much the band practices.3/22/94 Cleveland, OH
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There was over a year between Mansfield 08 and the Calgary show in 09. The Calgary boot sounds pretty good to me and when I saw them at Shepherd's Bush a few days later they were awesome. I didn't think they were 'rusty' at all that night“Do not postpone happiness”
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everyone please take a deep breath and relax. the show in london is going to be great. first of all ed's voice will be in fine form as he will not have been doing other shows previously. second, if they they abandon the traditional number of popular songs in their set lists and play a show their fans want them to play like amasterdam 2, then we will be in for one of the most epic shows in while. i think it's going to be amazing myself and a must attend show , thats why i am going to london to see this even though i didn't get fan club seats and don't have seats that i would normally sit in, but for this one you just want to be in the building. so i say stop over thinking or you are going to ruin it for yourself. my bet is this is going to be great so please all stop worrying.0
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This was my 'worry' before the Euro tour last year. Their last show before Manchester was in 7/8 months previous in Mexico and the Soundgarden Euro tour finished 10 days before Pearl Jam started their Euro tour. I thought 'how will they sound?', 'will they have had any time to practice?' 'will they be a little rusty?' but those 2 nights they were on fire straight from the off. I think that was the biggest surprise early on in the set on night 1 just how good they were sounding.
I have no doubt they will be fantastic for the 2 gigs in July.2000: Manchester
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I think you are all nuts. Lol
First off, if you hate when a lead singer forgets the words, don't ever go see Mötley Crüe or Van Halen. They play the same set each night and it's expected the singer will forget the words.
Second, PJ has always been influenced by punk over technical playing. Their live shows are about the energy and not playing every note perfect. They are influenced by the Ramones not Rush.
Finally, they just play three nights in SA and nailed it all three nights.
Maybe how tight they are has more to do with how sober they are or maybe Ed looks into the crowd and gets lost and flubs a lyric. Hell, I've never seen them use monitors with lyrics like so many other bands do.
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JB128716 wrote:I think you are all nuts. Lol
First off, if you hate when a lead singer forgets the words, don't ever go see Mötley Crüe or Van Halen. They play the same set each night and it's expected the singer will forget the words.
Second, PJ has always been influenced by punk over technical playing. Their live shows are about the energy and not playing every note perfect. They are influenced by the Ramones not Rush.
Finally, they just play three nights in SA and nailed it all three nights.
Maybe how tight they are has more to do with how sober they are or maybe Ed looks into the crowd and gets lost and flubs a lyric. Hell, I've never seen them use monitors with lyrics like so many other bands do.
You can have your perfection. I want Rock-n-Roll.
very very well put. I agree with you 100%. pearl jam takes chances, they pull out songs they haven't played in years. they juggle the set list. eddie calls out audibles in the middle of a set and plays a song not on the set list. that is what makes this band unique and the reason why I want to see them live as much as possible.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
that's exactly what i was thinkingboyo79 wrote:This was my 'worry' before the Euro tour last year. Their last show before Manchester was in 7/8 months previous in Mexico and the Soundgarden Euro tour finished 10 days before Pearl Jam started their Euro tour. I thought 'how will they sound?', 'will they have had any time to practice?' 'will they be a little rusty?' but those 2 nights they were on fire straight from the off. I think that was the biggest surprise early on in the set on night 1 just how good they were sounding.
I have no doubt they will be fantastic for the 2 gigs in July.ATHENS / 30-9-2006, MANCHESTER / 20-6-2012, MANCHESTER / 21-6-2012, AMSTERDAM / 16-6-2014, AMSTERDAM / 17-6-2014, AMSTERDAM / 12-6-2018, AMSTERDAM / 13-6-2018, PRAGUE / 1-7-2018, KRAKOW / 3-7-2018, BERLIN / 5-7-20180 -
EchosNobodyHears wrote:evenflow82 wrote:They did NOT nail it on night one by a long shot. The first night was a disaster. They took the stage 45 mins late, stumbled through the set (Which had rarities, which was great and all, but please rehearse them), random guests which took away from songs more than they added, terrible weather, scrapped songs, a curfew they were a complete slave to and one three minute cover song for a second encore in front of 30,000 of their fans. That's far from "nailing" anything and closer to simply embarrassing.
Sounds like someone was upset they weren't there...
I can't even take your argument seriously when u blame the weather on them. Really? the weather? Please explain how that correlates to them not nailing it. :corn:
As far as I'm concerned they did great (hence why there's a petition once a week for the boots to be released). Im not saying it was flawless by any means but how many of their shows are. Having spontaneity and little fumbles is what makes their shows good.
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evenflow82 wrote:EchosNobodyHears wrote:evenflow82 wrote:They did NOT nail it on night one by a long shot. The first night was a disaster. They took the stage 45 mins late, stumbled through the set (Which had rarities, which was great and all, but please rehearse them), random guests which took away from songs more than they added, terrible weather, scrapped songs, a curfew they were a complete slave to and one three minute cover song for a second encore in front of 30,000 of their fans. That's far from "nailing" anything and closer to simply embarrassing.
Sounds like someone was upset they weren't there...
I can't even take your argument seriously when u blame the weather on them. Really? the weather? Please explain how that correlates to them not nailing it. :corn:
As far as I'm concerned they did great (hence why there's a petition once a week for the boots to be released). Im not saying it was flawless by any means but how many of their shows are. Having spontaneity and little fumbles is what makes their shows good.
I was there for both nights.
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Phew. Glad I didn't try for tickets. Sounds like it's gonna be a shitty show0
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mcgruff10 wrote:JB128716 wrote:I think you are all nuts. Lol
First off, if you hate when a lead singer forgets the words, don't ever go see Mötley Crüe or Van Halen. They play the same set each night and it's expected the singer will forget the words.
Second, PJ has always been influenced by punk over technical playing. Their live shows are about the energy and not playing every note perfect. They are influenced by the Ramones not Rush.
Finally, they just play three nights in SA and nailed it all three nights.
Maybe how tight they are has more to do with how sober they are or maybe Ed looks into the crowd and gets lost and flubs a lyric. Hell, I've never seen them use monitors with lyrics like so many other bands do.
You can have your perfection. I want Rock-n-Roll.
very very well put. I agree with you 100%. pearl jam takes chances, they pull out songs they haven't played in years. they juggle the set list. eddie calls out audibles in the middle of a set and plays a song not on the set list. that is what makes this band unique and the reason why I want to see them live as much as possible.
+1 for both.
I just wanna know how do you call a show sloppy? Can you name anything concrete?
Asking the question, I think I'd start. Brisbane 2009 is a sloppy bootleg, for me. NY MSG 2008 bootlegs are also sloppy for me, here and there but I know there are a lot of fans of these shows.
Other than that, I'd never listened to anything sloppy yet from 2010-2013 period.
I just want to see some examples from those who say the band's playing has goten sloppy in the last years.What's your part, who you are?
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Poorly phrased question. It insinuates they'll be rusty. While I've lost faith in the band's capacity to communicate w/ their fan base :roll: , I've haven't lost faith in their ability to put on a whale of a rock 'n roll show 8-) . The band and the fan base both understand the importance of the Wrigley show. It's going to be stellar. There will be little to no rust, any evident rust simply being well-toned nuances of greatness.0
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LloydXmas wrote:Like a rusty steak knife. Cutting through a well aged steak.
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