PJ Dog Collars in SHOP

AzWicker wrote:

If they do caskets, I want the Alive Stickman graphic on mine

If they are accepting suggestions, I would also like some kind of pyrotechnics, just around corners, nothing too fancy.

These are handmade.They won't be "pet store cheap" because they're not mass produced in China, Taiwan, Malaysia, etc. The person/people who are making them deserve fair compensation for their labour. Given how many ways the $40 USD (~£26 GBP) is likely to be split, it seems fair to me.

Forget the dog collars, I would pay $40 to laugh as hard as I just did reading the 10 pages!

Some cows had to give their hides for this? Really? I would buy a non-leather dog collar for ten bucks, yeah... And even then it would be overpaying because they'd be made in China for 20 cents, but that's just the way things are.

Pearl Jam AND/OR 10C have sold out. No doubt in my mind anymore.

I shouldn't have to cite all the ridiculous items they've put for sale and the IMO high costs of membership. We all know how gross it's been.

But I do want to quote a thread of emails between me and 10C back in Sept. I think:




Original Email: (verbatim with name removed)

[> Greetings;
>
> If I'm reading correctly... 10C has now made available as a re-release the PJ20 documentary with the previously exclusive bonus content on 3-discs.
>
> And it's $39.99.
>
> How is this release different from the supposed 'limited edition' PJ20 with the 'exclusive content' that I bought a year ago for $59.99?
>
> I just wanted some clarification because I have to admit... I feel like a total sucker right now. I never thought I would experience something like this from 10C.
>
> Regards,
>
> ]


10C response: (verbatim)

[Content is identical, packaging is different.
10c]

My response: (verbatim)

[Ok,

Why the $20.00 difference?

Thanks,

]


10C Response: (verbatim)

[packaging costs for the reissue are $20 less than the original package.

10c]


^

That's just to give an idea of the FACT that Pearl Jam don't seem to care anymore about saving any of their fans money. And the grandest shame of it all is that the members of the band genuinely come off as regular blue-collared folk who seem or SEEMED to care back in the day.

It's true... people do have the CHOICE to purchase whatever they want.

But regardless of that fact, it shows bad taste that 10C are willing to go forward these money-grabbing tactics.

As per the above email.. I truly DO NOT BELIEVE that the packaging was $20.00 difference per unit. And in the insane chance that it is true... KNOWING that.. why would 10C add on $20.00 per unit TO THE FAN... just for a different package that is in NO WAY worth $20.00.

To some of the other posters in this topis... YES... it would be nice to see that 10C is doing something or putting some money towards an animal shelter or something like that.

Actually Wilco's been selling dog collars for a while now. 35 bucks, but at least they're not leather.

Paul Andrews wrote:

rockpants wrote:

These are handmade.They won't be "pet store cheap" because they're not mass produced in China, Taiwan, Malaysia, etc. The person/people who are making them deserve fair compensation for their labour. Given how many ways the $40 USD (~£26 GBP) is likely to be split, it seems fair to me.

Exactly what I was going to say. Fair day's pay for a fair day's work!

Would be cool to get a belt with some of these designs.

Yep, everybody is for paying workers more until they themselves have to actually pay more for goods to fund those salaries. Then it is back to Wal-Mart.

So far there has been demand for all things Pearl Jam on here and from the fanbase. So a dog collar is not a stretch. The fanbase has made Pearl Jam less about music and more about goods (posters, shirts, vinyls, etc...). Pearl Jam is catering to the fanbase that wants to consume, consume, consume.... The fanbase are hypocrites.

bootlegger10 wrote:

Paul Andrews wrote:

rockpants wrote:

These are handmade.They won't be "pet store cheap" because they're not mass produced in China, Taiwan, Malaysia, etc. The person/people who are making them deserve fair compensation for their labour. Given how many ways the $40 USD (~£26 GBP) is likely to be split, it seems fair to me.

Exactly what I was going to say. Fair day's pay for a fair day's work!

Would be cool to get a belt with some of these designs.

Yep, everybody is for paying workers more until they themselves have to actually pay more for goods to fund those salaries. Then it is back to Wal-Mart.

So far there has been demand for all things Pearl Jam on here and from the fanbase. So a dog collar is not a stretch. The fanbase has made Pearl Jam less about music and more about goods (posters, shirts, vinyls, etc...). Pearl Jam is catering to the fanbase that wants to consume, consume, consume.... The fanbase are hypocrites.

I won't be buying one but it doesn't bother me that they are selling them. Supply and demand is the cornerstone of the free market.

What does bother me is people complaining about price of hand made goods made in a Western country that looks after workers' rights, pay and conditions (and I'm no racist, good luck to Chinese and other workers - I hope they unionise and campaign for a fairer slice of the pie), but we all need to stand up and be willing to pay a fair price for items rather than buy the cheaper imports (often made by exploited workers/slaves).

There used to be an old saying, buy locally and buy your kids a job. Seems a bit rich to me for people to complain about offshoring of labour when they refuse to support companies that pay a fair rate of pay to their workers, provide them fair entitlements and just working hours. Eventually it will be their jobs that go.

And while I'm at it... the American minimum wage is a disgrace.

jh275312 wrote:

Completely agree. The band should be embarrassed. Ed is a complete hypocrite complaining about greed, capitalism, consumerism over the years. When I see the things they are selling in the "shop" it is ridiculous. Beer holders, tote bags, dog collars ??? Wow!! What a joke.

Very sad.......

Ever thought they are supporting sometimes struggling industries by giving them a market and collectable branding to sell their wares, thus keeping people employed and financially stable?

No-one is holding a gun to your head forcing you to buy this stuff, but if the lust of collectors keeps the collectors happy and a number of workers employed and their families better off - I'm all for it.

YoullseeDragons wrote:

I wonder if this would sell better as Pearl Jam BDSM wear?

I'd buy it.