No ma'am, I won't register my guns

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,097
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Yeah, because if the government banned those clips he never would of had one :roll:
    it is about preventing future massacres.

    something that could have been done had the assault weapons ban not been allowed to expire. something that could have been prevented if congress acted after columbine.
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    these things have happened in the past.

    this is about preventing someone from getting a 100 round drum tomorrow and shooting up another school.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,305
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    And James Holmes assault rifle 100 round clip jammed early on forcing him to switch to a shotgun that fired buck-shot and handguns ... which is a good reason 58 of those shot survived.


    Yeah, because if the government banned those clips he never would of had one :roll:
    So why are you concerned at all if the government bans high capacity clips if they are so easy to get?

    :think:
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,305
    Jason P wrote:
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    And James Holmes assault rifle 100 round clip jammed early on forcing him to switch to a shotgun that fired buck-shot and handguns ... which is a good reason 58 of those shot survived.


    Yeah, because if the government banned those clips he never would of had one :roll:
    So why are you concerned at all if the government bans high capacity clips if they are so easy to get?

    :think:
    Hell, 100 round clips, AR-15 assault rifles, and ammo are all legal right now ... you think some college student could go out right now and buy them? Hell, it's hard to find .22 ammo right now. And if you do find it, you are paying 400% - 500% markup.

    And you don't think making them illegal to manufacture and sell won't have an impact?
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    You anti gunners are funny.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,097
    unsung wrote:
    You anti gunners are funny.
    we are not anti gun. we are anti mass shootings and gun crime.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,305
    I own several guns. Plan on buying a Browning 700 .243 soon ... if Spring ever arrives.
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    unsung wrote:
    You anti gunners are funny.
    we are not anti gun. we are anti mass shootings and gun crime.


    So what are you going to do when Chicago gun crime stats don't drop?
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,625
    Why do progun people think everyone want's to take away their guns , i would think a regular hand gun or rifle would be enough to protect one's home & family from intruders ...
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  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    unsung wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    You anti gunners are funny.
    we are not anti gun. we are anti mass shootings and gun crime.


    So what are you going to do when Chicago gun crime stats don't drop?


    Don't states with the strictest gun laws have the highest crime ratings involving guns?

    It really pisses me off. Like who the fuck do these government reps think they are to tell me what I need and don't need. If I want an ar15 or an ak47 to protect my home then I should be able to have one. Fuck all the Joe Biden and Pierce Morgans of the world! I'll bitch slap them bitches 2 times!
  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    Why do progun people think everyone want's to take away their guns , i would think a regular hand gun or rifle would be enough to protect one's home & family from intruders ...


    The point is we are law abiding citizens. The government has no right to tell us what they think we need for protection. It's none of their fucking business. They can pass all the gun laws in the world. Ain't gonna change a fuckin thing in a crazy persons head.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    OnTheEdge wrote:


    Don't states with the strictest gun laws have the highest crime ratings involving guns?

    More people are getting killed in red states than blue states.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... tates.html

    "Pooh-poh this if you like, since it comes from the Center for American Progress, but the group just released a big study showing that--across 10 measures like the number of firearms homicides, number of total firearm deaths (including accidents etc.), law enforcement agents killed by firearms, and so on--the deadliest states are those with the most lax gun laws.

    The "top" 10: Louisiana, Alaska, Alabama, Arizona, Mississippi, South Carolina, New Mexico, Missouri, Arkansas, and Georgia.

    Now I know conservatives are thinking: No way these places are deadlier than New York and other states with big cities that have very violent neighborhoods. But according to CAP, New York and New Jersey, for example, rank 46th and 47th in gun violence. The full "bottom" 10: Nebraska, Maine, Minnesota, Rhode Island, Iowa, New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Hawaii. That's basically a combination of sparsely populated states and states with strong gun laws."
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,625
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Why do progun people think everyone want's to take away their guns , i would think a regular hand gun or rifle would be enough to protect one's home & family from intruders ...


    The point is we are law abiding citizens. The government has no right to tell us what they think we need for protection. It's none of their fucking business. They can pass all the gun laws in the world. Ain't gonna change a fuckin thing in a crazy persons head.

    Just like the many shooters of the past they to were law abiding citizens , is it the gov's bussiness to tell Women what kind of birth control they can use or the gay couple that can't marry is this also to much gov in our lives ?
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  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    JimmyV wrote:
    OnTheEdge wrote:


    Don't states with the strictest gun laws have the highest crime ratings involving guns?

    More people are getting killed in red states than blue states.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... tates.html

    "Pooh-poh this if you like, since it comes from the Center for American Progress, but the group just released a big study showing that--across 10 measures like the number of firearms homicides, number of total firearm deaths (including accidents etc.), law enforcement agents killed by firearms, and so on--the deadliest states are those with the most lax gun laws.

    The "top" 10: Louisiana, Alaska, Alabama, Arizona, Mississippi, South Carolina, New Mexico, Missouri, Arkansas, and Georgia.

    Now I know conservatives are thinking: No way these places are deadlier than New York and other states with big cities that have very violent neighborhoods. But according to CAP, New York and New Jersey, for example, rank 46th and 47th in gun violence. The full "bottom" 10: Nebraska, Maine, Minnesota, Rhode Island, Iowa, New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Hawaii. That's basically a combination of sparsely populated states and states with strong gun laws."


    Or, one could argue....

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/ ... lle-malkin
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    JimmyV wrote:
    OnTheEdge wrote:


    Don't states with the strictest gun laws have the highest crime ratings involving guns?

    More people are getting killed in red states than blue states.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... tates.html

    "Pooh-poh this if you like, since it comes from the Center for American Progress, but the group just released a big study showing that--across 10 measures like the number of firearms homicides, number of total firearm deaths (including accidents etc.), law enforcement agents killed by firearms, and so on--the deadliest states are those with the most lax gun laws.

    The "top" 10: Louisiana, Alaska, Alabama, Arizona, Mississippi, South Carolina, New Mexico, Missouri, Arkansas, and Georgia.

    Now I know conservatives are thinking: No way these places are deadlier than New York and other states with big cities that have very violent neighborhoods. But according to CAP, New York and New Jersey, for example, rank 46th and 47th in gun violence. The full "bottom" 10: Nebraska, Maine, Minnesota, Rhode Island, Iowa, New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Hawaii. That's basically a combination of sparsely populated states and states with strong gun laws."


    Or, one could argue....

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/ ... lle-malkin

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,097
    unsung wrote:


    So what are you going to do when Chicago gun crime stats don't drop?
    will you give us another example besides chicago? chicago has always been fucked up. it has always been violent. it is hard to enforce a gun ban when the gangs are the ones trafficking the weapons and the guns are the same ones the police use. add to that, the "don't snitch" culture that pervades inner city chicago makes crimes impossible to solve.
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236
    MARYLAND: A Tough New Gun Safety Law

    http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepoliti ... afety-law/
    A sweeping new law, passed Wednesday by the Maryland House of Delegates, will require the fingerprinting of gun buyers, mandate background checks, restrict availability of weapons to the mentally ill, and ban certain kinds of assault weapons and magazines of more than 10 bullets.

    The 78-61 vote sends the legislation back to the Senate, which has passed a similar version of the gun safety bill.


    Gov. Martin O'Mally of Maryland rallies supporters of new gun safety law, with background checks, firearms training and fingerprinting, outside legislature in Annapolis. It is likely to become law.
    “Our state shouldn’t settle for being in the top 10 most violent states in America: There are a lot of lives that can be saved. The tragedy in Newtown (Conn.) gave us the inflection point, the ability to forge a consensus that prior to that awful tragedy might not have been possible,” Gov. Martin O’Malley, a Democrat, told the Washington Post.

    Washington and Maryland acted in tandem last year on the issue of same-sex marriage. The legislatures of each state voted for marriage equality, a decision ratified by Washington and Maryland voters when the issue was put to a vote in November.

    But this year, the Washington state House of Representatives failed to muster the necessary 50 votes to pass a much more modest background-check bill, designed to close the so-called “gun show loophole.” An estimated 40 percent of the state’s gun sales are made with no background check.

    Maryland will join Connecticut, Hawaii, Massachusetts, New York and New Jersey in its fingerprinting requirement.

    The buyers of some guns will need to pass training and testing, and be issued an ID card by the Maryland State Police that must be renewed every 10 years.

    The legislation exempts the owners of hunting rifles and shotguns.

    New York and Colorado — site of the Aurora, Colo., massacre last summer — have passed new gun safety laws. Connecticut is likely to do so soon. President Obama spoke in Colorado on Wednesday, pressing Congress to pass legislation requiring background checks and limiting the size of ammunition clips.

    “If we’re really going to tackle this problem seriously, then we’ve got to get Congress to take the next step,” Obama said. “And as soon as next week, they will be voting. As soon as next week, every senator will get to vote on whether or not we should require background checks for anyone who wants to purchase a gun.”

    A new national Marist poll, done for NBC News, on Wednesday showed 87 percent support for background checks, including more than 80 percent of Republicans.

    But, noted Obama, “This is not easy. And I’ll be blunt — a lot of members of Congress, this is tough for them. Because those who are opposed to any form of legislation affecting guns, they’re very well organized and they’re very well financed. But it can be done if enough voices are heard.”
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    why would anybody register all their guns ? that will never happen.
    with all the laws and "protective" eyes on the American citizen it would be nice to know that if the day should ever come when the govenerment trys to take our guns they can't look for something they don't know is there..
    as one of you said "it's non of their business" if I own a gun or not especially if I am not a convicted fellon.

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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    So most people will freely register their automobiles ... but balk at the suggestion of registering guns - what kind of logic is that? If your a law abiding citizen ... why do you care if the government knows you have guns?

    Here in Canada we had a gun registry ... it was just recently gotten rid of ... my only real complaints with the registry was that it cost the taxpayers 1-2 billion to set up and the gun owners didn't to have to pay to register guns. Here in Canada the gun owners should have paid to register their gun ... just like I pay to register my car and a special tax could have been in place on the sale of guns and ammo to cover the set up cost.
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  • PJ_Soul
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,097
    PJ_Soul wrote:
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    i read today that the nra opposes the treaty to keep arms out of the hands of those countries.

    it is funny, because the nra normally would refer to them as terrorist nations, except for when their interests are shared...

    i wonder how many nra members would be aghast at their organization lining up along side of those countries...

    my guess is not many....


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