Autism Is greater than Cancer.

donnaruhl
donnaruhl Posts: 2,157
edited June 2013 in A Moving Train
We have spent God know's what on trying to find a cure for cancer,
Which in itself,Is a horrific Disease.
But did you know that in 1970 it was one in 10,000 for Autistic Children.
And now in 2013 it is one in 50.
I feel that there has not been enough done to protect our future generation's
from this crippling disorder. And I fear that we as a people need to protect our future existance.
Because it seem's to me that we are breeding ourselves into extention.
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  • Pjzepp67
    Pjzepp67 Posts: 445
    donnaruhl wrote:
    We have spent God know's what on trying to find a cure for cancer,
    Which in itself,Is a horrific Disease.
    But did you know that in 1970 it was one in 10,000 for Autistic Children.
    And now in 2013 it is one in 50.
    I feel that there has not been enough done to protect our future generation's
    from this crippling disorder. And I fear that we as a people need to protect our future existance.
    Because it seem's to me that we are breeding ourselves into extention.

    Surely the alarmingly increasing ratios are down to modern diagnostic methods and recognitinon of the condition rather than an unseen plague sweeping our collective nations.. :o
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    donnaruhl wrote:
    We have spent God know's what on trying to find a cure for cancer,
    Which in itself,Is a horrific Disease.
    But did you know that in 1970 it was one in 10,000 for Autistic Children.
    And now in 2013 it is one in 50.
    I feel that there has not been enough done to protect our future generation's
    from this crippling disorder. And I fear that we as a people need to protect our future existance.
    Because it seem's to me that we are breeding ourselves into extention.

    they are probably related to the same thing ... food supply, environmental changes ...
  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    Pjzepp67 wrote:
    donnaruhl wrote:
    We have spent God know's what on trying to find a cure for cancer,
    Which in itself,Is a horrific Disease.
    But did you know that in 1970 it was one in 10,000 for Autistic Children.
    And now in 2013 it is one in 50.
    I feel that there has not been enough done to protect our future generation's
    from this crippling disorder. And I fear that we as a people need to protect our future existance.
    Because it seem's to me that we are breeding ourselves into extention.

    Surely the alarmingly increasing ratios are down to modern diagnostic methods and recognitinon of the condition rather than an unseen plague sweeping our collective nations.. :o

    ^this
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,604
    Greater?
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  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    JimmyV wrote:
    Greater?

    I believe, by greater, the OP means "of more urgent attention".
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  • donnaruhl
    donnaruhl Posts: 2,157
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    JimmyV wrote:
    Greater?

    I believe, by greater, the OP means "of more urgent attention".
    Yes! That's what I meant.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,604
    donnaruhl wrote:
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    JimmyV wrote:
    Greater?

    I believe, by greater, the OP means "of more urgent attention".
    Yes! That's what I meant.

    Ah, I see.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,604
    I do have to believe that part of the startling increase is due to autism being under-diagnosed in 1970 and over-diagnosed in 2013.

    But certainly more attention should be paid.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,671
    donnaruhl wrote:
    We have spent God know's what on trying to find a cure for cancer,
    Which in itself,Is a horrific Disease.
    But did you know that in 1970 it was one in 10,000 for Autistic Children.
    And now in 2013 it is one in 50.
    I feel that there has not been enough done to protect our future generation's
    from this crippling disorder. And I fear that we as a people need to protect our future existance.
    Because it seem's to me that we are breeding ourselves into extention.
    It's true that Autism is crippling for many people. I think it's also worth considering that some people with milder form of autism such as Asperger's syndrome may be the very one's who will find some of the answers to our problems. Temple Grandin is an outstanding example of such a person and she herself has stated that we should look to some of those with Asperger's who have unique skills for solving problems and finding solutions.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • donnaruhl
    donnaruhl Posts: 2,157
    brianlux wrote:
    donnaruhl wrote:
    We have spent God know's what on trying to find a cure for cancer,
    Which in itself,Is a horrific Disease.
    But did you know that in 1970 it was one in 10,000 for Autistic Children.
    And now in 2013 it is one in 50.
    I feel that there has not been enough done to protect our future generation's
    from this crippling disorder. And I fear that we as a people need to protect our future existance.
    Because it seem's to me that we are breeding ourselves into extention.
    It's true that Autism is crippling for many people. I think it's also worth considering that some people with milder form of autism such as Asperger's syndrome may be the very one's who will find some of the answers to our problems. Temple Grandin is an outstanding example of such a person and she herself has stated that we should look to some of those with Asperger's who have unique skills for solving problems and finding solutions.
    I truely wish that more of them did have Asperger's.I had no clue as to what Autism was until my Grandson.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,671
    donnaruhl wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    donnaruhl wrote:
    We have spent God know's what on trying to find a cure for cancer,
    Which in itself,Is a horrific Disease.
    But did you know that in 1970 it was one in 10,000 for Autistic Children.
    And now in 2013 it is one in 50.
    I feel that there has not been enough done to protect our future generation's
    from this crippling disorder. And I fear that we as a people need to protect our future existance.
    Because it seem's to me that we are breeding ourselves into extention.
    It's true that Autism is crippling for many people. I think it's also worth considering that some people with milder form of autism such as Asperger's syndrome may be the very one's who will find some of the answers to our problems. Temple Grandin is an outstanding example of such a person and she herself has stated that we should look to some of those with Asperger's who have unique skills for solving problems and finding solutions.
    I truely wish that more of them did have Asperger's.I had no clue as to what Autism was until my Grandson.

    Yes, and I certainly don't mean to down-play the seriousness of autism. What have you learned about the cause of increased rate of autism? Are the statistics you listed word-wide? I also wonder if the rate increase is partly due improved diagnosis.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    JimmyV wrote:
    I do have to believe that part of the startling increase is due to autism being under-diagnosed in 1970 and over-diagnosed in 2013.

    But certainly more attention should be paid.
    :geek:
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  • donnaruhl
    donnaruhl Posts: 2,157
    My words may have been a bit extreme in the caption.I did however grab some attention.
    That was my main goal. My Grandson is 3 1/2. He goes to pre-school with five other Autistic children
    in our neighborhood. He has mild Autism,not Aspergers.(I wish!).He is very intelligent when it comes to Puzzles,Numbers,and Tablet/I-Phone games.But he lacks in social and behavioral skills.The other five children in his class aren't so fortunate.And yes it is basically an unseen entity,Until it hit's home. It's not just an American
    Illness.Professional's are diagnoising it far better now and are more advanced in treating it. Just the same,It's here,It's real and the numbers are staggering.
  • justam
    justam Posts: 21,415
    brianlux wrote:
    It's true that Autism is crippling for many people. I think it's also worth considering that some people with milder form of autism such as Asperger's syndrome may be the very one's who will find some of the answers to our problems. Temple Grandin is an outstanding example of such a person and she herself has stated that we should look to some of those with Asperger's who have unique skills for solving problems and finding solutions.

    You're right that there is a spectrum. And, perhaps that's why the numbers have increased so rapidly too. More people are being placed under the umbrella of the label "autistic."

    There is a lot to think about. I think at some point, there will be more sub-divisions among the people who are now merely labelled "autistic." People are individuals and may have some of the characteristics but not others. Some may have benefited from early diagnosis and interventions while others have not.

    My son is on the high-end of the spectrum. When he hears people talking about "curing" autism, he is a bit hurt because it makes it seem like he has a disease...

    it's not a disease in the same way that cancer is.
    It's more of a different brain structure. That's why some of the people with Aspergers are so exceptional in their fields of interest.

    He worried that if there was a test for babies in the womb people would choose not to have children like him. It was a valid concern. Especially since he's a lovely person and there are other people who are on the spectrum that are lovely people too. :)

    It's complicated! :?
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  • donnaruhl
    donnaruhl Posts: 2,157
    justam wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    It's true that Autism is crippling for many people. I think it's also worth considering that some people with milder form of autism such as Asperger's syndrome may be the very one's who will find some of the answers to our problems. Temple Grandin is an outstanding example of such a person and she herself has stated that we should look to some of those with Asperger's who have unique skills for solving problems and finding solutions.

    You're right that there is a spectrum. And, perhaps that's why the numbers have increased so rapidly too. More people are being placed under the umbrella of the label "autistic."

    There is a lot to think about. I think at some point, there will be more sub-divisions among the people who are now merely labelled "autistic." People are individuals and may have some of the characteristics but not others. Some may have benefited from early diagnosis and interventions while others have not.

    My son is on the high-end of the spectrum. When he hears people talking about "curing" autism, he is a bit hurt because it makes it seem like he has a disease...

    it's not a disease in the same way that cancer is.
    It's more of a different brain structure. That's why some of the people with Aspergers are so exceptional in their fields of interest.

    He worried that if there was a test for babies in the womb people would choose not to have children like him. It was a valid concern. Especially since he's a lovely person and there are other people who are on the spectrum that are lovely people too. :)

    It's complicated! :?[/quote

    I wouldn't change thing's for the world.I love my Grandson. We need to find out what part of the environment
    is causing this first.Then work on changing it.
  • CAVSTARR313
    CAVSTARR313 Posts: 8,756
    Greater..

    I don't know.. While a parent's child being diagnosed with autism must be terrible, I would say watching cancer aggressively killing someone you love is worse.. Most children live with autism.. Cancer kills..
    None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe that they are free.
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    donnaruhl wrote:
    I wouldn't change thing's for the world.I love my Grandson. We need to find out what part of the environment
    is causing this first.Then work on changing it.
    I don't know much about autisim...so I ask how is it known it's environmentally caused? Especially as it's being more (correctly?) diagnosed now vs several decades ago.

    As to autisim outweighing the numbers or effects of cancer - well again, I don't know much about the former, but the latter? It's taken out more than 90% of my family...in a bad way too.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,671
    hedonist wrote:
    donnaruhl wrote:
    I wouldn't change thing's for the world.I love my Grandson. We need to find out what part of the environment
    is causing this first.Then work on changing it.

    As to autisim outweighing the numbers or effects of cancer - well again, I don't know much about the former, but the latter? It's taken out more than 90% of my family...in a bad way too.

    That's very heavy, hedonist. I'm very sorry to hear that. Take care of yourself. We need people like you!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • donnaruhl
    donnaruhl Posts: 2,157
    Hedonist.I'm truly sorry to hear of your losses. I wasn't implying that Cancer was any less a problem.
    It's recognition and awareness has moved mountains towards trying to find a cure. And that's basically
    what I would like to see happen towards Autism,A.D.H.D and other neurological disorders that may be linked to the environment. I lost my Dad and Aunt to cancer within two day's of each other. And My Sister in two days of being diagnosed.I got one phone call...and she was gone.If a person is on the higher end of the spectrum, they have a greater chance of being fully functioning adults. It's those that are non-functioning,and will always need care for their entire live's.If they were all asperger's I probably wouldn't have said a word,And went about my life.I thank you for your voice in this matter.
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Thanks, you two. And donna, I too extend sympathies for your losses and really hope that those in all of these situations get the help needed, in whatever form.

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