Human Rights complaint-no more "Albino" at Earl's

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 51,025
    hedonist wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    Good for Earl's to listen to those offended, I have a feeling most every person effected
    with albinism have probably been stared at and teased since they were small,
    and far worse like the article said.
    I like what Mr. Ash said about respect. They have done good work to help many
    with their charities.
    Walk a mile...
    Sometimes I think people are just looking for something to be offended by.

    Seems like an unnecessary waste of time and money to me. It's a play on words, fer chrissakes! Albino rhinos are actually quite beautiful in their own way.

    If overweight people are offended by the Fat Cat Bar, should they have to change their name? Where's the line drawn?

    Anyway, the phrase "I'm a rhinocerus and my skin is two feet thick" seems appropos here. Smart animal!

    excellent point. how long before Junior's has to stop serving the Fat Boy burger? there are some menu items called the Heart Attack (insert food item here). Are people who have had heart attacks going to cry over that?
    I really don't think that fat and Albinoism are comparable. Especially when fat is a thing and somethig we actually eat and cook with and not exclusively a state of being or a physical disability.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • maybe mothers of kids with alopecia are going to sue Mr Clean because their kids get teased and called Mr Clean at school.

    maybe people with one leg will get offended at a wooden legged pirate at a kid's playground.

    my mother is physically challenged (she contracted polio in one leg when she was 4). she was obviously teased alot (one leg is shorter than the other, and she wears a brace for it). even ADULTS stare at her in public, along with their kids. But you know what, she would find something like this hilarious. people have to have a sense of humour about it. laugh at yourselves a bit.

    and it's not a HUMAN albino. it's a fucking RHINOCEROS. get a life.

    sure Earl's had no choice but to bow to this nonsense. it would have been a PR nightmare had they told that guy where to go. But I liked how they put in their statement "it never crossed our minds that this would offend anyone". BINGO.

    I'm with Hugh (et al) and his position throughout this thread.

    Seriously? I mean why do we have to sanitize society to the points we do? At some point in time... someone's going to have to tell someone to "go fuck themselves" instead of just caving- which now seems to be the only acceptable response to such nonsensical charges.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • PJ_Soul wrote:
    I really don't think that fat and Albinoism are comparable. Especially when fat is a thing and somethig we actually eat and cook with and not exclusively a state of being or a physical disability.

    well people who are obese because of glandular issues might disagree with that.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 51,025
    maybe mothers of kids with alopecia are going to sue Mr Clean because their kids get teased and called Mr Clean at school.

    maybe people with one leg will get offended at a wooden legged pirate at a kid's playground.

    my mother is physically challenged (she contracted polio in one leg when she was 4). she was obviously teased alot (one leg is shorter than the other, and she wears a brace for it). even ADULTS stare at her in public, along with their kids. But you know what, she would find something like this hilarious. people have to have a sense of humour about it. laugh at yourselves a bit.

    and it's not a HUMAN albino. it's a fucking RHINOCEROS. get a life.

    sure Earl's had no choice but to bow to this nonsense. it would have been a PR nightmare had they told that guy where to go. But I liked how they put in their statement "it never crossed our minds that this would offend anyone". BINGO.
    But if Mr clean was called Mr alopecia, I think we'd have a problem. They wouldn't have said anything if it was called White Rhino, and they aren't offended by pale ales either.
    But of course they didn't ever think it would offend anyone. Who the hell thinks about the sensibities of albinos?? Most people have never even seen someone with that condition, much less thought about whether or not they are sensitive about people throwing the word around like it's not something that causes those who have it difficulty in life. But hey, now they know. Albinos aren't cool with it. Fair enough.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul wrote:
    But if Mr clean was called Mr alopecia, I think we'd have a problem. They wouldn't have said anything if it was called White Rhino, and they aren't offended by pale ales either.
    But of course they didn't ever think it would offend anyone. Who the hell thinks about the sensibities of albinos?? Most people have never even seen someone with that condition, much less thought about whether or not they are sensitive about people throwing the word around like it's not something that causes those who have it difficulty in life. But hey, now they know. Albinos aren't cool with it. Fair enough.

    it's a RHINO. if a rhino were offended by it and opened a case with the Rhino Rights Commission, then fine, call it something else.

    and it wasn't that they weren't concerned with the sensibilities of albinos, it's that it's just so fucking ridiculous to be sensitive about.
    Gimli 1993
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    Winnipeg 2011
    St. Paul 2014
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 51,025
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    I really don't think that fat and Albinoism are comparable. Especially when fat is a thing and somethig we actually eat and cook with and not exclusively a state of being or a physical disability.

    well people who are obese because of glandular issues might disagree with that.
    If it was called Obese Burger or Obese Boy they would have a point.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul wrote:
    They wouldn't have said anything if it was called White Rhino

    I tend to disagree with that. if it was the same picture (white rhino with large sunglasses) but just called white, people still would have bitched. it's human nature now to bitch about every little thing that bothers us to bring attention to the world about our problems.

    i'm overweight and have a slowly receding hairline. did I sue NBC/Seinfeld for portraying the short stocky bald man as the loser of the group?

    it was nothing more than a marketing gimmick. their signature beer is a pale ale. pale, as in white. albino rhino just flows off the tongue better than tanless rhino. if it had been a white shark with red eyes called "Great White" I bet they wouldn't have had an issue with it.
    Gimli 1993
    Fargo 2003
    Winnipeg 2005
    Winnipeg 2011
    St. Paul 2014
  • PJ_Soul wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    I really don't think that fat and Albinoism are comparable. Especially when fat is a thing and somethig we actually eat and cook with and not exclusively a state of being or a physical disability.

    well people who are obese because of glandular issues might disagree with that.
    If it was called Obese Burger or Obese Boy they would have a point.

    are you serious? you think it's called "Fat boy" because of the fat content of the burger??? the picture on the menu is of a fucking fat kid!
    Gimli 1993
    Fargo 2003
    Winnipeg 2005
    Winnipeg 2011
    St. Paul 2014
  • PJ_Soul wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    I really don't think that fat and Albinoism are comparable. Especially when fat is a thing and somethig we actually eat and cook with and not exclusively a state of being or a physical disability.

    well people who are obese because of glandular issues might disagree with that.
    If it was called Obese Burger or Obese Boy they would have a point.

    Semantics. Obese/Fat... the same thing and I think everyone can agree on that.

    You could make a case for virtually anything as being potentially offensive to someone. Have we gotten to the point that we can take offence to virtually anything given our level of sensitivity?

    The grotesque assaults on people or characteristics of people deserve our attention and our efforts. This is just garbage.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 51,025
    I just can't stop thinking about it by replacing the word albino with any other disease that people suffer from, and that is when I have to admit they have a good point. What if you had cistic fibrosis and you were given a fibrosis Rhino beer glass? Weird, right? I just think on a logical level it must feel like to them. The fact that people in Africa suffer torture and murder when they have the disease doesn't help I suppose. These are the symptoms of albinism. It just makes me think it is a term that is best not used casually as a fun adjective if we're assuming other diseases shouldn't be.


    The symptoms of albinism depend on the specific type of albinism and are mainly related to the eyes, skin and hair.

    Symptoms of The Eye -

    The color of the iris is usually blue/gray or light brown with some people having a reddish or violet hue reflected through the iris.

    Vision problems in albinism result from abnormal development of the retina and abnormal patterns of nerve connections between the eye and the brain. People with albinism have an unusual pattern for sending nerve signals from the eye to the brain.

    One major abnormality of the eye in albinism involves lack of development of the fovea. The fovea is a small but most important area of the retina inside the eye. The fovea is the area of the retina that allows sharp vision, such as for reading, and this area of the retina does not develop in albinism. This results in lack of sharp vision and blurring of objects.

    Other symptoms of the eyes include -

    Decreased sharpness in vision (visual acuity)

    Functional blindness

    Involuntary, irregular and rapid movement of the eye (Nystagmus)

    Lazy eye (Amblyopia)

    Sensitivity to bright lights or glare (Photophobia)

    Wandering eyes (Strabismus)

    Distortion of a viewed image (Astigmatism)

    Symptoms Affecting The Skin -

    Patchy or total absence of the melanin pigment leaving the areas pale

    Symptoms of The Hair -

    Forelock (portion of the hair near the forehead) turns white (seen in Waardenberg syndrome)

    Complete absence of pigment in the hair resulting in white hair

    Other Symptoms include -

    Bleeding tendency (seen is Hermansky-Pudlak Syndrome)

    Problem with bowels (seen is Hermansky-Pudlak Syndrome)

    Breathing problems due to lung fibrosis (seen is Hermansky-Pudlak Syndrome)

    Deafness

    Increased susceptibility to infections

    Nervous system disorders
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul wrote:
    I just can't stop thinking about it by replacing the word albino with any other disease that people suffer from, and that is when I have to admit they have a good point. What if you had cistic fibrosis and you were given a fibrosis Rhino beer glass? Weird, right?

    I don't know, do rhinos suffer from cystic fibrosis? there are actually albino rhinos. there are albino buffalo too, and they are revered.

    have any been spotted wearing over-sized sunglasses? not that I'm aware of. fine, get rid of the specs. we'll call it even.
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    St. Paul 2014
  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    This is such a ridiculous argument. :lol:

    I'm sorry. I dunno... It's a white rhino and not a human being. Jesus tapdancing christ
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 51,025
    This is such a ridiculous argument. :lol:

    I'm sorry. I dunno... It's a white rhino and not a human being. Jesus tapdancing christ
    I'm not arguing. I honestly have no feelings about it at all. I just think that what they say makes logical sense.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    This is such a ridiculous argument. :lol:

    I'm sorry. I dunno... It's a white rhino and not a human being. Jesus tapdancing christ
    I'm not arguing. I honestly have no feelings about it at all. I just think that what they say makes logical sense.

    But it can be implied....

    :lol:

    I love arguing logic :lol:

    Carry on. :lol: I'm drunk and I'm done with the fucking Albino beer
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    hedonist wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    Good for Earl's to listen to those offended, I have a feeling most every person effected
    with albinism have probably been stared at and teased since they were small,
    and far worse like the article said.
    I like what Mr. Ash said about respect. They have done good work to help many
    with their charities.
    Walk a mile...
    Sometimes I think people are just looking for something to be offended by.

    Seems like an unnecessary waste of time and money to me. It's a play on words, fer chrissakes! Albino rhinos are actually quite beautiful in their own way.

    If overweight people are offended by the Fat Cat Bar, should they have to change their name? Where's the line drawn?

    Anyway, the phrase "I'm a rhinocerus and my skin is two feet thick" seems appropos here. Smart animal!

    excellent point. how long before Junior's has to stop serving the Fat Boy burger? there are some menu items called the Heart Attack (insert food item here). Are people who have had heart attacks going to cry over that?
    no
  • Maybe they should change the name to "honky rhino". Maybe "cracker rhino". "White Supremacist Rhino". "Aryan Rhino" So many names can take it's place.

    Who knows maybe rayban are going to check what kind of sunglasses are on the rhino and what their brand on it.

    Political correctness: It can and will go on forever.

    The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08

  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    hedonist wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    Good for Earl's to listen to those offended, I have a feeling most every person effected
    with albinism have probably been stared at and teased since they were small,
    and far worse like the article said.
    I like what Mr. Ash said about respect. They have done good work to help many
    with their charities.
    Walk a mile...
    Sometimes I think people are just looking for something to be offended by.

    Seems like an unnecessary waste of time and money to me. It's a play on words, fer chrissakes! Albino rhinos are actually quite beautiful in their own way.

    If overweight people are offended by the Fat Cat Bar, should they have to change their name? Where's the line drawn?

    Anyway, the phrase "I'm a rhinocerus and my skin is two feet thick" seems appropos here. Smart animal!
    Some of the replies, really insensitive. That is usually what's at the heart of political correctness.
    I don't think it is a waste of time to be sensitive to people's feelings.

    This request brings attention to the plight of people who have suffered and an understanding of that.
    It questions and removes the''lets make fun of people' or the denseness that is involved in that.
    These people had no control of their genetic condition.

    I guess the Rhinos wins out over the humans in this case from some of the posts.
    I'm sure those suffering are not surprised and why the request was made in the first place.
  • pandora wrote:

    I guess the Rhinos wins out over the humans in this case from some of the posts.
    I'm sure those suffering are not surprised and why the request was made in the first place.

    Because it probably comes down to one or two people who don't even live a sniff near this place and one douche bag lawyer causing the stir.

    The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08

  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    edited March 2013
    This is such a ridiculous argument. :lol:

    I'm sorry. I dunno... It's a white rhino and not a human being. Jesus tapdancing christ
    It is a human being who is being compromised. It is offensive to those with a genetic disorder.
    Just change the name of the beer for Christ's sake, too much to ask?
    Post edited by pandora on
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    pandora wrote:

    I guess the Rhinos wins out over the humans in this case from some of the posts.
    I'm sure those suffering are not surprised and why the request was made in the first place.

    Because it probably comes down to one or two people who don't even live a sniff near this place and one douche bag lawyer causing the stir.
    Again working towards sensitivity and respect.
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