ISP's "Six Strikes Your Out" plan
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Jeanwah wrote:Sign the petition: http://act.demandprogress.org/act/six_s ... e%3Dauto-e
Do these ever work?0 -
Bronx Bombers wrote:I think this policy is a total joke, if there's no ramifications from the ISPs other than a temporary slowdown in service what's the point. The ISPs aren't going to fire you as a customer so if you were to get a few warnings and your speed got throttled down what will they do if you call up and threaten to cancel your service unless your speeds are restored?
Speed throttling DOES work. 100% works. It's not some dumb gimmick, or an annoying inconvenience.
It literally solves the problem.
You guys seem to be missing the finer point here.
I don't think anyone is going after folks sharing articles on a message board, or watching YouTube videos.
These changes are meant to affect naked theft of mainstream audio and video content that in all likely hood is owned by the same corporations that own the ISPs. Call it big corporations going to far, but they are looking after their bottom line and doing it in a way that is both more than generous to offenders (six strikes. SIX strikes) and actually effective.
Like I said. I've received copywriter letters/landing page letters before. Those in and of themselves are eye openers. "Oh shit. They know!"
And speed throttling?
It works.
You are trying to download a movie or a flac file. It is 500mb or a gigabyte. Your download speed is 1.5mb/s ... Suddenly, after less than a minute or two, your speed ON THAT DOWNLOAD slows from 1.5mb to 1.2 to 900kb to 500 to 100 to 50 to ONE OR TWOkb/s.
That happens in less than 30seconds. You were downloading 1.5mb/s , then WHAM 30 seconds later you are effectively NOT downloading at all. It's not a gimmick.If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?0 -
Drifting makes good points.
However, until we start fully apprising just what's behind anymore censorship issues — I APPOSE ALL OF EM!
Jeanwah, I registered such on you link. I too hope it works.0 -
dancepartner wrote:Drifting makes good points.
However, until we start fully apprising just what's behind anymore censorship issues — I APPOSE ALL OF EM!
Jeanwah, I registered such on you link. I too hope it works.
Two very different issues.0 -
hedonist wrote:dancepartner wrote:Drifting makes good points.
However, until we start fully apprising just what's behind anymore censorship issues — I APPOSE ALL OF EM!
Jeanwah, I registered such on you link. I too hope it works.
Two very different issues.
Hedonist, good point & I'm glad you asked.
Here, I'll 'copy' from Wikipedia this time -- at least I always give credit to whom I've copied from! :?
Hope that helps me during the penalty phase....
"The copyright alert system, also known as the six strikes program,[1] is a graduated response framework for the United States, agreed upon by participating ISPs and Intellectual property organizations in which a third-party will monitor file-sharing networks, collect the IP addresses of suspected copyright infringement, and submit the IP addresses to ISPs who will in turn issue the suspected infringer a copyright alert."
Please notice CAS is not specific to copyright infringement of movie & music only. While trying to find a consise list of what's 'censored', I've found the list is still vague but developing; (see copyrightinformation.org)
This newfound tidbit makes me wonder why this list is not a frontrunner to a system now implemented? Why is it so hard to put trackers on the data in which people don't want pirated? ASCAAP & BMI are paid to work in behalf of musicians for this very thing, why are they not the ones to be censoring who just nabbed a copy of something they need to pay for? Why then, can't they turn in repeated offenders for prosecution of what is law just like all other laws?
Hedonist, I don't know much about this stuff but I'm not alone. The internet is an ever-evolving bohemeth data field where gov's are also scrambling to try & stay ahead of it being used for things such as child porn, terrorism & artistic piracy. For myself, I still buy CD's. I love to support artists in this manner & I hope CD's don't become a thing of the past as did LP's, so I certainly want artists to keep creating & I wished people would simply raise their standards & stop pirating. Their pathetic behavior is what's giving other control measures a foothold into the land of the big www. & I passionately want this land to remain OUR domain, not a governments or big business land to censor.
Oh, by the way, here's a definition of censorship & why I use it: "the actions or practices of censors; especially: censorial control exercised repressively".
Also, while the penalty phase for actual music & movie pirates might deserve being treated in this manner, I don't like how the rest of us will be treated; the ones not guilty, the ones guilty of copyright issues not related to music & movies. (Copied from Wikipedia also) "Customers found in violation who believe an error has been made may not appeal individual errors until the process has reached the mitigation stage. At that point the customer will pay $35 and will then be informed of the number of Alerts that need to be invalidated to avoid mitigation. The customer may not question errors until the penalty is applied, and then has only 14 days in which to pay the application fee, be informed of the number of errors that must be identified in order to succeed and formally appeal the penalization decision."
This is backwards. We will be treated guilty first, absolved only after this "fair & partial process"?0 -
I don't think this is just about pirating music and movies. Articles on various sites are often copyrighted and many of us here download those articles to reprint here on AMT. That sounds like grounds for infringement according to the six strikes plan.
Of course, it's a computer thing. I may not know what the heck I'm talking about."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
Thanks for taking the time to clarify, DP!0
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