The NRA finally comes out from under it's rock

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  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    Abe Froman wrote:
    stuckinline wrote:

    Why should the taxpayers pay for the armed guards? If the NRA thinks armed guards in every school is the solution, then let the NRA pay for it.
    :clap::clap:

    They are armed policemen. So funded by one's taxes. So either they take current police off the streets and give them their 40 hours of training to be in the school environment or they hire new policemen. There are already not enough police on the streets and with cutbacks, there is no money to hire a shitload more.
  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    on a positive note, we will not be seeing that psycho ted nugent on the discovery channel anymore. they pulled the plug on his gun show...


    http://www.examiner.com/article/ted-nug ... b_articles

    That's alright, just turn to the outdoor channel.
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Abe Froman wrote:
    stuckinline wrote:

    Why should the taxpayers pay for the armed guards? If the NRA thinks armed guards in every school is the solution, then let the NRA pay for it.
    :clap::clap:

    Or tax the shit out of guns and bullets and let that revenue sort some of the problems out.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    pandora wrote:
    Abe Froman wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    Taxpayers of course. Please let's not bring something so valuable to a monetary debate.
    It is priceless the value of child police relationship. This the positivity that lasts a lifetime.
    Nothing like learning cops are good people. It is not only for safety but for relationship value.

    We can see in others who never learn this value, filled with negativity,
    we see how they conduct themselves with others.
    Very disrespectfully, very much in bullying ways. Resource officers properly trained,
    make all the difference in a person's life.

    I could only wish this will come to your school so you can open your heart
    to a lovely human being who will mean much to you and children.
    My sons have, their Uncle is a police officer. I don't need or want this in my sons Kindergarten on a daily basis. He has an amazing Kindergarten teacher who will mean much to him (and his parents :) )
    I hope having police patrolling Kindergarten hallways is not what things come to. That would be crazy to me. Its fucking scary and does not feel like freedom in my opinion.
    You are lucky to have an officer in the family. How wonderful!
    You can probably understand then just how great having an officer in a child's life can be.

    Not every child has this. Many live in areas where police are not respected
    and crime is plentiful. Illegal and legal guns plentiful. Bad examples from bad people.
    I think you can see how wonderful a good relationship between child and officer
    can change a life. Positively positive change.

    Let's look to those who might need this relationship to change their lives.
    Lets look at the positive instead of the negative.
    Resource officers are a very good thing in every school across our country.
    Something the government should be preparing for now. Like I said lots of new
    jobs for the unemployed also. And a new friend to love.

    We have a millwright and a manager of Walgreens in our family. we are so lucky It is wonderful!
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:
    Abe Froman wrote:
    stuckinline wrote:

    Why should the taxpayers pay for the armed guards? If the NRA thinks armed guards in every school is the solution, then let the NRA pay for it.
    :clap::clap:

    Or tax the shit out of guns and bullets and let that revenue sort some of the problems out.


    Or cut foreign aid to countries like Greece, Israel, and Egypt.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    History has proven that governments prefer unarmed citizens so that they can do their bidding without resistance.
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    unsung wrote:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

    Or tax the shit out of guns and bullets and let that revenue sort some of the problems out.


    Or cut foreign aid to countries like Greece, Israel, and Egypt.

    Both would be wise.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    unsung wrote:
    History has proven that governments prefer unarmed citizens so that they can do their bidding without resistance.

    Medieval history.

    Excuses man. Excuses.

    Instead of flaunting such dribble... just come out and say: "It's statistically likely not going to be me caught in the crossfire... so as long as it's not me catching bullets... I'd prefer to keep my cool guns!"

    Because this is exactly what people think when you hide behind such a flawed and insubstantial argument.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    Who Princess wrote:
    g under p wrote:
    JC29856 wrote:
    i like chris rocks idea....a bullet costs $100

    Correction 5k per bullet is what he wanted, one would be more careful and cautious where and when one shoots.

    Peace
    :lol::lol:

    I remember that bit!
    "You better watch out, man! Cos in 2 or 3 years, after I save me up some money, I'm gonna come back here and pop your ass!"
    :lol:

    It really is a brilliant idea though.... I guess a black market on bullets might begin, but even that would immediately become too expensive for most criminals. And it would really cramp up the gun culture part of the problem.
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  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    History has proven that governments prefer unarmed citizens so that they can do their bidding without resistance.

    Medieval history.

    Excuses man. Excuses.

    Instead of flaunting such dribble... just come out and say: "It's statistically likely not going to be me caught in the crossfire... so as long as it's not me catching bullets... I'd prefer to keep my cool guns!"

    Because this is exactly what people think when you hide behind such a flawed and insubstantial argument.

    The USSR?

    Nazi Germany?

    Not exactly medieval history... Ya know, 70 years ago.. and I'm not saying it would happen here... it just has happened in the past.
  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    History has proven that governments prefer unarmed citizens so that they can do their bidding without resistance.

    Medieval history.

    Excuses man. Excuses.

    Instead of flaunting such dribble... just come out and say: "It's statistically likely not going to be me caught in the crossfire... so as long as it's not me catching bullets... I'd prefer to keep my cool guns!"

    Because this is exactly what people think when you hide behind such a flawed and insubstantial argument.

    The USSR?

    Nazi Germany?

    Not exactly medieval history... Ya know, 70 years ago.. and I'm not saying it would happen here... it just has happened in the past.
    It also hasn't happened in places like Canada, The UK, Australia, etc...
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  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    keeponrockin wrote:


    It also hasn't happened in places like Canada, The UK, Australia, etc...

    Right, hence "I'm not saying it would happen here"

    Just making note of history... not too distant history
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    The USSR?

    Nazi Germany?

    Not exactly medieval history... Ya know, 70 years ago.. and I'm not saying it would happen here... it just has happened in the past.

    The majority of Russians supported the revolution, and the majority of Germans supported Hitler by the end of the 1930's. So your examples are moot.
  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    Byrnzie wrote:
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    The USSR?

    Nazi Germany?

    Not exactly medieval history... Ya know, 70 years ago.. and I'm not saying it would happen here... it just has happened in the past.

    The majority of Russians supported the revolution, and the majority of Germans supported Hitler by the end of the 1930's. So your examples are moot.

    I'm just saying it's not ancient history... it really isn't. That's about the only point I made... Not sure how people supporting the revolution and the rise of Hitler has to do with it.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    I'm just saying it's not ancient history... it really isn't. That's about the only point I made... Not sure how people supporting the revolution and the rise of Hitler has to do with it.

    What's not ancient history? The Russian and German people weren't attacked by their governments, apart from some minority groups.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Byrnzie wrote:
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    The USSR?

    Nazi Germany?

    Not exactly medieval history... Ya know, 70 years ago.. and I'm not saying it would happen here... it just has happened in the past.

    The majority of Russians supported the revolution, and the majority of Germans supported Hitler by the end of the 1930's. So your examples are moot.


    And for that 23M Soviets and 8M Germans lost their lives. Yep, gun control works...for the governments.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Byrnzie wrote:
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    I'm just saying it's not ancient history... it really isn't. That's about the only point I made... Not sure how people supporting the revolution and the rise of Hitler has to do with it.

    What's not ancient history? The Russian and German people weren't attacked by their governments, apart from some minority groups.


    Stalin sent how many millions to die? They were slaughtering their own. How many were sent to gulags for writing poems? The people WERE attacked by their own governments.
  • blueandwhite
    blueandwhite Posts: 662
    unsung wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    The USSR?

    Nazi Germany?

    Not exactly medieval history... Ya know, 70 years ago.. and I'm not saying it would happen here... it just has happened in the past.

    The majority of Russians supported the revolution, and the majority of Germans supported Hitler by the end of the 1930's. So your examples are moot.


    And for that 23M Soviets and 8M Germans lost their lives. Yep, gun control works...for the governments.

    Do you really think that the US would fare any better if your government turned on its people? Honestly, what makes Americans so special that they would/could fight back? Seriously, what would you and your guns do in the face of a modern military threat? They certainly haven't made that much difference for the Iraqis or the Afghanis who are mere ants against the might of the US military.
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    unsung wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    I'm just saying it's not ancient history... it really isn't. That's about the only point I made... Not sure how people supporting the revolution and the rise of Hitler has to do with it.

    What's not ancient history? The Russian and German people weren't attacked by their governments, apart from some minority groups.


    Stalin sent how many millions to die? They were slaughtering their own. How many were sent to gulags for writing poems? The people WERE attacked by their own governments.
    sure..and if russian had guns will save them from stalin???so if usa goverment want to attack Americans,your guns will save you???
    one one airbase with squads of fight fighters could make disapear whole town with bombing..you wouldnt even hear the sound of the aircrafts...
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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    redrock wrote:
    Abe Froman wrote:
    stuckinline wrote:

    Why should the taxpayers pay for the armed guards? If the NRA thinks armed guards in every school is the solution, then let the NRA pay for it.
    :clap::clap:

    They are armed policemen. So funded by one's taxes. So either they take current police off the streets and give them their 40 hours of training to be in the school environment or they hire new policemen. There are already not enough police on the streets and with cutbacks, there is no money to hire a shitload more.
    We have money to protect our children just as we do our government offices and airports.
    More police would be hired to fill the positions with special training, influences towards
    community and children. It is going to take many solutions to help insure
    this violence in the school is not repeated.
    I would think everyone would want to do all they can towards that.

    I was just at our local Mall... armed police all over. Little kids seeing armed police...
    they were laughing enjoying the last few days before Christmas, armed Police there to protect.

    Why shouldn't we provide the same in our schools?

    Is it because some parents are afraid of guns? Those same parents are they ok
    being protected in the mall? In the airport? I see a police man and I feel safer.
    I am safer.
    Parents need not put their fears onto their children. Kids are ok with Police armed or otherwise
    and learn to respect them if their parents do.

    I'm not sure how others feel but my wish would have been
    that a Resource Officer had come with the new security measures
    there at the last school shooting so at least the kids had a fighting chance.

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