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  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    drivingrl wrote:
    Ho hum:

    http://www.npr.org/2012/12/05/166546012/talks-resume-in-nation-hockey-league-dispute

    That jerk professor totally teaches at my alma mater. I beg to differ - Dallas does have a hockey culture.

    I would agree with you but the main issue that Dallas has is crappy owners
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    fife wrote:
    drivingrl wrote:
    Ho hum:

    http://www.npr.org/2012/12/05/166546012/talks-resume-in-nation-hockey-league-dispute

    That jerk professor totally teaches at my alma mater. I beg to differ - Dallas does have a hockey culture.

    I would agree with you but the main issue that Dallas has is crappy owners

    dallas is near the bottom in attendance ... maybe it's related to the owners ... not sure ... but they are piss poor in attendance ...
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    apparently ... crosby has been working with lemieux and burkle on trying to settle this ... gotta say this for the kid - he is showing leadership ...
  • drivingrl
    drivingrl Posts: 1,448
    polaris_x wrote:
    dallas is near the bottom in attendance ... maybe it's related to the owners ... not sure ... but they are piss poor in attendance ...

    You know, that attendance issue began last season (or the season prior to that, can't remember). Prior to that, attendance wasn't too shabby. But yeah, last season, attendance was scary low.
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    kevinbeetle: "Yes. When her career washes up and her and Gavin move to Galveston, you will meet her at Hot Topic shopping for a Japanese cheerleader outfit.

    Next!"
  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    polaris_x wrote:
    apparently ... crosby has been working with lemieux and burkle on trying to settle this ... gotta say this for the kid - he is showing leadership ...

    While as a flyers fan i am predisposed to not like him, i think he is doing some good work. I wonder if he ever goes up to Mario and says "hey, if it was not for me you would never have gotten that new rink and you would be in another city" if he ever said that i would cheer for him.
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    drivingrl wrote:
    Ho hum:

    http://www.npr.org/2012/12/05/166546012/talks-resume-in-nation-hockey-league-dispute

    That jerk professor totally teaches at my alma mater. I beg to differ - Dallas does have a hockey culture.

    Once this lock-out is over Dallas along with both Florida teams and Phoenix should be gone...I know it won't happen...one can dream though.

    Optimally the NHL should have no more than 24 teams ... The game would be so much better.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    lukin2006 wrote:
    drivingrl wrote:
    Ho hum:

    http://www.npr.org/2012/12/05/166546012/talks-resume-in-nation-hockey-league-dispute

    That jerk professor totally teaches at my alma mater. I beg to differ - Dallas does have a hockey culture.

    Once this lock-out is over Dallas along with both Florida teams and Phoenix should be gone...I know it won't happen...one can dream though.

    Optimally the NHL should have no more than 24 teams ... The game would be so much better.

    the Funny thing is that I can see the NHL expand to 2 more teams.
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    fife wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    apparently ... crosby has been working with lemieux and burkle on trying to settle this ... gotta say this for the kid - he is showing leadership ...

    While as a flyers fan i am predisposed to not like him, i think he is doing some good work. I wonder if he ever goes up to Mario and says "hey, if it was not for me you would never have gotten that new rink and you would be in another city" if he ever said that i would cheer for him.

    And if I was Mario and he said that ... I'd trade his ass to Columbus after signing him to a 14 year contract with a no - trade clause. Fortunately for Mario and Pittsburgh I think Crosby respect's Mario and all the great players before him that made it possible for him to earn 10 million plus a year.

    Besides Mario worked tirelessly to keep the team in Pittsburgh ... As far as I'm concerned a deal would likely be done if it wasn't for Snider and Jacobs ...
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,856
    I was against contraction... But the more I think about it, the league would be great with 28 teams, 7 in each Division, 4 from each Division make the playoffs.

    I dont know how the ownership is, but I would lop off Anaheim (already have LA market with a very good young exciting team), and also one of the Florida teams. If you cant fix Phoenix, allow them to move to Quebec.
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,856
    fife wrote:
    the Funny thing is that I can see the NHL expand to 2 more teams.

    that's the rumor. And based on the NHL's alignment proposal last year, it seems there were 2 gaping openings.
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,856
    it seems like something may get done this week. It seems like they are at a real deadline hear. Reportedly, a lot of sponsors have rights to get 'relief' if the NHL misses 1/4 of the season. This is about the deadline to hit 60 games, so both sides know there is a large difference between making a deal now, and making one in a month or more.
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    fife wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    drivingrl wrote:
    Ho hum:

    http://www.npr.org/2012/12/05/166546012/talks-resume-in-nation-hockey-league-dispute

    That jerk professor totally teaches at my alma mater. I beg to differ - Dallas does have a hockey culture.

    Once this lock-out is over Dallas along with both Florida teams and Phoenix should be gone...I know it won't happen...one can dream though.

    Optimally the NHL should have no more than 24 teams ... The game would be so much , .

    the Funny thing is that I can see the NHL expand to 2 more teams.

    Sure they will ... They'll get anther 500 million expansion fee ... The quality of the product will continue to get worse ... It's already a poor quality product, it'll just get worse, Bettman convinced the owners in the 90's that the European talent pool was deep ... Well it's ... Actually I believe the Canadian presence in the NHL has rise from about 48% to 53% since 2002 (if I'm not mistaken), look at the absolute rising stars in this league, they re Canadian, the last 4 cup champions comprised of 14-15 Canucks ... We can't keep expanding this league without the talent pool to support it, it's just not there.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    lukin2006 wrote:
    fife wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    apparently ... crosby has been working with lemieux and burkle on trying to settle this ... gotta say this for the kid - he is showing leadership ...

    While as a flyers fan i am predisposed to not like him, i think he is doing some good work. I wonder if he ever goes up to Mario and says "hey, if it was not for me you would never have gotten that new rink and you would be in another city" if he ever said that i would cheer for him.

    And if I was Mario and he said that ... I'd trade his ass to Columbus after signing him to a 14 year contract with a no - trade clause. Fortunately for Mario and Pittsburgh I think Crosby respect's Mario and all the great players before him that made it possible for him to earn 10 million plus a year.

    Besides Mario worked tirelessly to keep the team in Pittsburgh ... As far as I'm concerned a deal would likely be done if it wasn't for Snider and Jacobs ...

    I hope you know i was joking about Crosby saying that but it would be funny. I won't put the blame on just 2 people. to be honest, there was no pressure on both sides to get things done before. you have alot of teams that are happy not having hockey until January.
  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    lukin2006 wrote:
    fife wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    ]Ho hum:

    http://www.npr.org/2012/12/05/166546012/talks-resume-in-nation-hockey-league-dispute

    That jerk professor totally teaches at my alma mater. I beg to differ - Dallas does have a hockey culture.

    Once this lock-out is over Dallas along with both Florida teams and Phoenix should be gone...I know it won't happen...one can dream though.

    Optimally the NHL should have no more than 24 teams ... The game would be so much , .

    the Funny thing is that I can see the NHL expand to 2 more teams.

    Sure they will ... They'll get anther 500 million expansion fee ... The quality of the product will continue to get worse ... It's already a poor quality product, it'll just get worse, Bettman convinced the owners in the 90's that the European talent pool was deep ... Well it's ... Actually I believe the Canadian presence in the NHL has rise from about 48% to 53% since 2002 (if I'm not mistaken), look at the absolute rising stars in this league, they re Canadian, the last 4 cup champions comprised of 14-15 Canucks ... We can't keep expanding this league without the talent pool to support it, it's just not there.[/quote]

    I disagree that the product has gotten worse. I remember the late 80 and early 90s and that time hockey was at it lowest imo.
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,856
    I think the talent is plentiful for 30 teams.

    The problem is that all the players are a bit too good and too efficient at what they do. Defensive systems have been perfected and stifle offensive play. The rules arent/cant be called like they should. Goalies are just too big and take up too much space.
    I also think the phasing out of the truly spirited rivalries and fighting has hurt the entertainment value. I remember going to games and the first thing i would look at is the opposing teams' roster to see what fighters they have.

    I also think the fact that the players are so wealthy now, there is less motivation over an 82 game schedule. You only really see intense action when there are playoffs, or olympic medals are on the line.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    if i were to change anything it would be to see if we can expand the rink surface ... with the smaller arenas here - it basically is geared for traps and a lot of the clutching and grabbing ...
  • Dr. Delight
    Dr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    The problem has a ton to do with Fehr. Apparently Bettman was ready to start the renegotiation process last summer, and it was Fehr who decided to use the possibility of a lockout to gain leverage for the players vs owners.
    It has obviously failed. Now they are scrambling.
    And so you see, I have come to doubt
    All that I once held as true
    I stand alone without beliefs
    The only truth I know is you.
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,856
    Dr. Delight wrote:
    The problem has a ton to do with Fehr. Apparently Bettman was ready to start the renegotiation process last summer, and it was Fehr who decided to use the possibility of a lockout to gain leverage for the players vs owners.
    It has obviously failed. Now they are scrambling.

    Led by Eric Lindros, the NHLPA oustered Paul Kelly (who was on decent terms with the NHL and wanted to come up with a new deal early).
  • Dr. Delight
    Dr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    MayDay10 wrote:
    I was against contraction... But the more I think about it, the league would be great with 28 teams, 7 in each Division, 4 from each Division make the playoffs.

    I dont know how the ownership is, but I would lop off Anaheim (already have LA market with a very good young exciting team), and also one of the Florida teams. If you cant fix Phoenix, allow them to move to Quebec.
    Yes, please no more teams. That is NOT what this league needs.
    And so you see, I have come to doubt
    All that I once held as true
    I stand alone without beliefs
    The only truth I know is you.
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Regular season hockey today is about as exciting as soccer ... imo ... I prefer a game when a team is down 2 or 3 goals entering the 3rd period, the team down has a shot at coming backing and winning, todays game is very difficult to do that, still to much clutching and grabbing and interference ... and teams are very good at killing penalties ... rule changes I'd like to see changed ... minor penalty goes from 2 min to 3 and must serve the entire 3 minutes, any head shot 4 minutes must serve entire 4 minutes, major penalties goes from 5 to 7 minutes ... thats when hockey deteriorated was the late 80's ... and its only getting worse.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon

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